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Znail · 2012-11-28, 00:40

It's even more strange as 1 month of training should logically put Jae Gu at his weakest. All martial arts traning consists of 4 things: the physical conditioning required for the moves, unlearning any bad habits, leaning how to do things right and finally how to do the right thing by reflex at the right time. The problem is that the last thing takes many years of practice to achieve. The problem with that is that before you manage to learn that part so are you weaker in an actual fight then someone without any formal training.

Another thing is that the advice to do the bull rush makes no sense at all against a natural brawler. It could make sense against someone with formal Thai Boxing training as the bull rush is not something that would be practiced by them. But for a street brawler so would a bull rush be something he has seen plenty of times and should be able to counter easily. The punch makes even less sense, just try and punch upwards above your head while someone is pushing your head down, no power what so ever.

Shadow5YA · 2012-11-28, 01:30

Another problem is that despite saying how Ho Pae has no style or predicability because he is an undisciplined street fighter, Moon Young managed to predict every one of his moves and give Jae Gu seemingly flawless advice to counter them perfectly.

Even if Jae Gu's boasted physical talent is overlooked because it is a common plot device used by many action manga/manhwa writers, this fight still has many holes in its design. Ho Pae is a poorly written antagonist for this little miniarc, and the way the main cast handles him from being in awe at his power in the tournament to not even caring that he exists later... is even less stellar writing.

Moon Young and Dal Dal's fight against the chinese weapon fighters also reeked of ignorance when Moon Young stated that the flaw with their martial arts was that they were physically "weak" when many martial art disciplines use their opponent's strength against them. It was fine when Dal Dal overpowered her opponent because she is just a level higher, but when Moon Young acted as if the reason her group wins is because her opponent's martial discipline is the inferior style, something is obviously fishy.

Tempest35 · 2012-12-01, 18:22

I hope everyone is a little more satisfied with this chapter.

It wasn't a KO hit that Jae Gu delievered, rather that, it made Ho Pae become even more wild.

And now, Jae Gu's also flipped his own 'wild switch' and now they seem ready to tear into each other like two animals. *gets ready to play 'Animal I Have Become'*

Randrak42 · 2012-12-01, 18:47

I wouldn't mind it if Jaegu lost, got really hurt and that took a toll on Moon. Well I already wanted him to lose because...well it doesn't make a lick of sense for Jaegu to win over a guy that beat Moon's senior...but now I want him to get hurt (I'll feel sorry for him) simply to make Moon realize how stupid she was...the hard way.

Velsy · 2012-12-01, 22:25

Bah.... wtf

This is not a boxing match.... Its a DUEL! When the bell goes, the match is over so wtf! The Mafia dude has every dam right to accuse them how insulting they have been towards him since he stepped up to the plate. Queen called him out and he stepped forward, only for her to piss off and leave Jae gu whos turned into a superman with a click of his fingers. I am good for Jae Gu giving it his best... but hes not a superman

Well its not like I didnt think it get any worse and stupid. In my last few posts I cant even find anything positive to say its gotten that bad ><

catavecino · 2012-12-02, 00:09

i don't want to see queen on her knees, i don't want to think what will the ganster make her do (watched to mush netorare to not worry), and they have been insulting, but come on the gansters even told them that they would kidnap and sell them to a brothel, not to forget he did took a kid for hostage, the fact that he entered a ring(ownly option to save some face or his life if those butlers get angry) is not even near enough to get my respect

ShiroiRyu · 2012-12-08, 12:21

68 : Break this guy ... O_o
Just want it.

Lexxus · 2012-12-08, 12:27

Well, at least it showed that Jae Gu still can't beat a guy like him and Moon Young needed to step up for Jae Gu.

Tempest35 · 2012-12-08, 15:06

Devil Moon has come out to play~ Those eyes... Dempsy Roll Incoming!!
I will lose my **** if that really happens next week...XD

Although, Jae Gu...so naive. Oh well, he shone through for at least his will to fight. Now it's time for Oneesan to take over.

kasimmorathi · 2012-12-08, 17:51

Really glad they didn't have some mystical win for Jae Gu; love the guy and it shows some great development on his part that he is willing to go back into the ring even knowing he isn't going to win. It may also be a great lesson in terms of fighting that not everyone is going to fight fairly and according to the rules, so he should be prepared for it.

Still, I think the crusher is about to be taught a lesson in humility and learn what it means to be truly crushed. Then of course setting it up in the future for a rematch between Jae Gu and the boy. We're going to need an 80's style training montage over here!

Dauerlutscher · 2012-12-08, 20:16

Song was just incredible dumb with his unnecessary talk about fighting fairly to a gy that hold his siblings as hostages.
I could just facepalm about the stupidity in this chapter.

liquidmetal · 2012-12-08, 20:27

Very happy that Jae Gu didn't win. Was already sitting uneasily with me about how quickly he seems to have powered up.

Johnny · 2012-12-09, 03:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dauerlutscher

Song was just incredible dumb with his unnecessary talk about fighting fairly to a gy that hold his siblings as hostages.
I could just facepalm about the stupidity in this chapter.

How are you surprised at this? He was even going to ask the red head douche if he was ok after their fight. The prick who tormented him for years and not even mentioning the poison schtick...

The best thing about this chapter was the pissed off Moon-Young and the mini Dal Dal hanging onto Jae Gu's leg...

Znail · 2012-12-09, 05:35

This turned out pretty well. It's kind of nice to see people make mistakes now and then. But I guess it turned out well in that he got some combat practice while the girls will clean up the mess left now.

Johnny · 2012-12-15, 10:56

Spoiler for ch 69:

ShiroiRyu · 2012-12-15, 12:17

Logical and classical.
Don't fuck.

Randrak42 · 2012-12-15, 12:23

I always liked Moon, but she was always the bro character to me. This chapter just elevated her to a whole new level to me...the beatdown she handed out while super pissed was glorious!!! Even Dal Dal was like "WTF is up with her?".

The scene with Queen was cute and funny as well.

The problem is...I dunno why but this author has a problem with handling antagonists...they seem to show up and look like a real threat and someone cool but by the end they are really nowhere near that, instead degenerating into mook level guys that look tough which is disappointing. I think this chapter would have done well without the whole stool throwing scene. It's a shame too because despite him being a total ass...I kinda liked this antagonist.

Tempest35 · 2012-12-15, 13:27

"...Next"

...that last panel ...the sheer amount of f'ks not given.... It ws glorious...

As for Queen, I wish I would have seen her reacting to Jae Gu's beatdown... but seeing her cheering on Moon like that was criminally cute.

But I have to hand it to the asshole, he hung in there for at least 4 fights. I can't imagine him not taking a fair bit of damage from the first two fights of the day, and then he got into a slug match with Jae Gu... so one could argue that he wasn't at his best when fighting Moon but it really doesn't make much difference, does it?

kramerica · 2012-12-15, 14:03

I didn't like how one sided the last fight was though...there's still no antagonist that I like yet.

ShiroiRyu · 2012-12-22, 11:21

70 : Seriously.
I was laughing at the last page. XD

2012-11-28, 01:30	Link #842
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Another problem is that despite saying how Ho Pae has no style or predicability because he is an undisciplined street fighter, Moon Young managed to predict every one of his moves and give Jae Gu seemingly flawless advice to counter them perfectly. Even if Jae Gu's boasted physical talent is overlooked because it is a common plot device used by many action manga/manhwa writers, this fight still has many holes in its design. Ho Pae is a poorly written antagonist for this little miniarc, and the way the main cast handles him from being in awe at his power in the tournament to not even caring that he exists later... is even less stellar writing. Moon Young and Dal Dal's fight against the chinese weapon fighters also reeked of ignorance when Moon Young stated that the flaw with their martial arts was that they were physically "weak" when many martial art disciplines use their opponent's strength against them. It was fine when Dal Dal overpowered her opponent because she is just a level higher, but when Moon Young acted as if the reason her group wins is because her opponent's martial discipline is the inferior style, something is obviously fishy. Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2012-11-28 at 01:41.

2012-12-01, 18:22	Link #843
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	I hope everyone is a little more satisfied with this chapter. It wasn't a KO hit that Jae Gu delievered, rather that, it made Ho Pae become even more wild. And now, Jae Gu's also flipped his own 'wild switch' and now they seem ready to tear into each other like two animals. gets ready to play 'Animal I Have Become' __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2012-12-01, 22:25	Link #845
Velsy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Bah.... wtf This is not a boxing match.... Its a DUEL! When the bell goes, the match is over so wtf! The Mafia dude has every dam right to accuse them how insulting they have been towards him since he stepped up to the plate. Queen called him out and he stepped forward, only for her to piss off and leave Jae gu whos turned into a superman with a click of his fingers. I am good for Jae Gu giving it his best... but hes not a superman Well its not like I didnt think it get any worse and stupid. In my last few posts I cant even find anything positive to say its gotten that bad >< Last edited by Velsy; 2012-12-01 at 22:41.

2012-12-08, 12:21	Link #847
ShiroiRyu Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: France Age: 35	68 : Break this guy ... O_o Just want it. __________________

2012-12-08, 15:06	Link #849
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	Devil Moon has come out to play~ Those eyes... Dempsy Roll Incoming!! I will lose my **** if that really happens next week...XD Although, Jae Gu...so naive. Oh well, he shone through for at least his will to fight. Now it's time for Oneesan to take over. __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2012-11-28, 00:40	Link #841
Znail Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011	It's even more strange as 1 month of training should logically put Jae Gu at his weakest. All martial arts traning consists of 4 things: the physical conditioning required for the moves, unlearning any bad habits, leaning how to do things right and finally how to do the right thing by reflex at the right time. The problem is that the last thing takes many years of practice to achieve. The problem with that is that before you manage to learn that part so are you weaker in an actual fight then someone without any formal training. Another thing is that the advice to do the bull rush makes no sense at all against a natural brawler. It could make sense against someone with formal Thai Boxing training as the bull rush is not something that would be practiced by them. But for a street brawler so would a bull rush be something he has seen plenty of times and should be able to counter easily. The punch makes even less sense, just try and punch upwards above your head while someone is pushing your head down, no power what so ever.

2012-12-01, 18:47	Link #844
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	I wouldn't mind it if Jaegu lost, got really hurt and that took a toll on Moon. Well I already wanted him to lose because...well it doesn't make a lick of sense for Jaegu to win over a guy that beat Moon's senior...but now I want him to get hurt (I'll feel sorry for him) simply to make Moon realize how stupid she was...the hard way.

2012-12-02, 00:09	Link #846
catavecino Member Join Date: Oct 2008	i don't want to see queen on her knees, i don't want to think what will the ganster make her do (watched to mush netorare to not worry), and they have been insulting, but come on the gansters even told them that they would kidnap and sell them to a brothel, not to forget he did took a kid for hostage, the fact that he entered a ring(ownly option to save some face or his life if those butlers get angry) is not even near enough to get my respect

2012-12-08, 12:27	Link #848
Lexxus YES! Hahahaha Join Date: Jul 2011 Age: 34	Well, at least it showed that Jae Gu still can't beat a guy like him and Moon Young needed to step up for Jae Gu.

2012-12-08, 17:51	Link #850
kasimmorathi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Really glad they didn't have some mystical win for Jae Gu; love the guy and it shows some great development on his part that he is willing to go back into the ring even knowing he isn't going to win. It may also be a great lesson in terms of fighting that not everyone is going to fight fairly and according to the rules, so he should be prepared for it. Still, I think the crusher is about to be taught a lesson in humility and learn what it means to be truly crushed. Then of course setting it up in the future for a rematch between Jae Gu and the boy. We're going to need an 80's style training montage over here!

2012-12-08, 20:16	Link #851
Dauerlutscher Marauder Shields Join Date: Sep 2012	Song was just incredible dumb with his unnecessary talk about fighting fairly to a gy that hold his siblings as hostages. I could just facepalm about the stupidity in this chapter.

2012-12-08, 20:27	Link #852
liquidmetal procrastinating... Join Date: Aug 2010	Very happy that Jae Gu didn't win. Was already sitting uneasily with me about how quickly he seems to have powered up.

2012-12-09, 05:35	Link #854
Znail Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011	This turned out pretty well. It's kind of nice to see people make mistakes now and then. But I guess it turned out well in that he got some combat practice while the girls will clean up the mess left now.

2012-12-15, 10:56	Link #855
Johnny Working the bags... Join Date: Mar 2009	Spoiler for ch 69: Moon Young handing out a beat down through and through. Damn shame her hair didn't get disheveled enough for her top knot to come undone though...

2012-12-15, 12:17	Link #856
ShiroiRyu Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: France Age: 35	Logical and classical. Don't fuck. __________________

2012-12-15, 12:23	Link #857
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	I always liked Moon, but she was always the bro character to me. This chapter just elevated her to a whole new level to me...the beatdown she handed out while super pissed was glorious!!! Even Dal Dal was like "WTF is up with her?". The scene with Queen was cute and funny as well. The problem is...I dunno why but this author has a problem with handling antagonists...they seem to show up and look like a real threat and someone cool but by the end they are really nowhere near that, instead degenerating into mook level guys that look tough which is disappointing. I think this chapter would have done well without the whole stool throwing scene. It's a shame too because despite him being a total ass...I kinda liked this antagonist.

2012-12-15, 13:27	Link #858
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	"...Next" ...that last panel ...the sheer amount of f'ks not given.... It ws glorious... As for Queen, I wish I would have seen her reacting to Jae Gu's beatdown... but seeing her cheering on Moon like that was criminally cute. But I have to hand it to the asshole, he hung in there for at least 4 fights. I can't imagine him not taking a fair bit of damage from the first two fights of the day, and then he got into a slug match with Jae Gu... so one could argue that he wasn't at his best when fighting Moon but it really doesn't make much difference, does it? __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier." Last edited by Tempest35; 2012-12-15 at 18:06.

2012-12-15, 14:03	Link #859
kramerica Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	I didn't like how one sided the last fight was though...there's still no antagonist that I like yet. __________________ Nanael is not amused.

2012-12-22, 11:21	Link #860
ShiroiRyu Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: France Age: 35	70 : Seriously. I was laughing at the last page. XD __________________