Eden of the East - Spoilers & Speculation

[Haak]

Originally Posted by izmosmolnar

If only it would be that easy .
Or you indeed believe everything the way they present it in the show? Don't tell me, I'm the only one here who expects such things later on, like *gasps* "Plot twists", or that some characters are lying on purpose?

I almost alway keep that in mind. But I wish i didn't because then hardly anything is a surprise anyone.

[Jan-Poo]

Argh please I don't really want this show to turn into another Code Geass!

If we detatch ourselves from any sense of reality we'll end up suspecting Akira's dog of being the outsider.

Because winged dogs are definitely strange

[Haak]

No, winged dogs are an indication of an owners strange tastes.

[izmosmolnar]

Well I wouldn't go as far to suspect Akira's dog (Why is that dog having wings anyway? Can he fly by any chance?), but I definitely take everything with a pinch of salt, when the sources are a bit dubious, and can be easily proven wrong. For example all the information from Diana or Kondo, or the claim that Kondo carelessly sent a wrong message to his wife (yeah right...).
And hell no! I don't want to see such bizarre Sunrise plot twists, like CG or Sora Kake here neither, but I can't help but feel, we are being deceived with a few fake clues somewhere. The best example would be Ohsugi <=> rapist where both possibilities can be easily rebuked.

Anyway, you folks still remember the previews translated several pages ago?

Spoiler for ep8, ep9, previews spoiler:

Originally Posted by Envoy

Episode 8
Takizawa is determined to regain the history of his Noblesse mobile from before the erasure. He visits Kyoto to request a genius hacker once feared as a "prodigy" - Yutaka Itazu - to analyse his Noblesse mobile. However, persuading Itazu, who has been living as a shut-in, proves difficult.

Episode 9
The Noblesse mobile's analysis by Itazu has begun. Looking through the erased records, they discover that a request proposed by No. 10 to inflict catastrophic damage on Japan was accepted. Takizawa and Itazu shudder at the realization. Meanwhile, Selecao No. 10's car appears in front of Itazu's apartment.

Source

And look who is going to surface in episode 9? Isn't that #10 by any chance? What a surprise to see we gonna meet him/her so soon! I just predicted yesterday on the last page he/she is going to die, even though I was completely oblivious about the previews at the time. (I swear, I really forgot about it!)

I would raise my bet now, that he/she is the likely candidate to die out of the current selecaos.
The reason there are no more badge-disappearances in the OP is that the series going to finish with only 3 dead Selecaos, and the movie is going to conclude the situation with them (including psycho #11). So I also predict #11 is most likely going to survive the series, she gonna be present in the movie too, and she won't be killed in the next 4 episodes (possibly she isn't even going to interact with Akira in the near future).

[Jan-Poo]

I say that Akira's dog is the reincarnation of Kanon's Ayu



See they even got the same "hair" color!

[Haak]

I was actually thinking the same think when I first saw thatdog.

It would've been so much better if the dog went "uguu!"

[izmosmolnar]

Well, speaking of Kanon, if the Fox-girl managed to "shapeshift" from a fox into a human form, I have no reason to doubt ~Uguu~ could do it in a reverse order and become a dog. Albeit the dog here in Eden of the East might seem a bit more intelligent for me, ( JK no offense ).

The doggy might be also the same sub-species as the glorious Winged Pig of Squad 7 of the Valkyria universe.

[Jan-Poo]

Oh I thought you weren't going to watch VC, changed your mind? ^^

Anyway I think that pig isn't cute at all, I just wish it could become sausages and hams and stop bothering.

Back on the dogs topic, if we are talking about intelligent dogs then Ein from Cowboy Bebop comes to mind. But when I said that the dog could be the outsider I was rater thinking about a dog in Eden (the manga)

Spoiler for Eden:

At first glance the dog looks like your average big sized dog, however it is actually a cyborg with the brain of a genius scientist implanted in it.

[Haak]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

Spoiler for Eden:

At first glance the dog looks like your average big sized dog, however it is actually a cyborg with the brain of a genius scientist implanted in it.

It would be very funny then if the dog turned out to be Mr. OUTSIDE.

[izmosmolnar]

Spoiler for OT:

No I've said, I'm following it too, however I might drop it later, because there is a fair amount of inconsistency in the show, and the character interaction makes me scream sometimes :/ . (Truth to be told, I don't even have any idea what I'm expecting out of that series lol.)

Anyway back on topic and being SRS, I hope it's not going to be true, and he doesn't have any such special role in the series. I'm inclined to believe the doggy's (why don't he has a name? I just noticed his name is Mameshiba) main purpose here is to further appeal to the younger, primarily female viewers by simply being cute and charming.
However, it is also interesting to note that (just like almost every human characters of the show) the puppy can also blush. I don't really know what to think about it, since the first episode showed us an African American woman blushing too, and while I know it can visually happen with lighter black skin, I doubt her skin was capable of doing that, and there is no way I'm going to believe that a dog is going to embarrassedly blush with red cheeks. (･ิ_･)

Edit: Additionally Kaoru explained to us earlier in the general thread somewhere, that the artist doesn't like it when they are taking pictures of her, and she uses a blushing cute Bear (Kuma-chan) instead, whenever they need an image.
So I imagine the constant blushing, even among animals is just the way she illustrates the characters, and there isn't any significance in it.

[Jan-Poo]

Well I think the blush effect is to take as a visual effect that doesn't actually happen. Like the "giant sweat drop" or the "bursting vein". They are merely iconic visual effects whose only purpose is to graphically represent the emotions of the characters and as such even an african american woman and a dog can "blush".

[Starry Dust]

Rosy cheeks!

Speaking of the dog, I saw it one day when I was walking to the pet-store ( without the wings of course lol) A lady was walking it to her car and you wouldn't believe how excited I was xD Then my dad looked at me like I was crazy. The dog was so ridiculously cute.

To be honest, I've decided to ditch the Welsh Corgi ( Ein ) and go for the Mame-shiba.
Yes, anime encourages me to buy dogs.

~Uguu

[silverya]

Interestingly enough, the blog's synopsis for episode 9 is a little different from the spoilers.

Click at your own risk: http://community.livejournal.com/ede...14.html#cutid1

[Jan-Poo]

Spoiler for episode9 synopsis:

It looks like the hacker will be able to restore the erased data °°
And as I suspected it's the fat guy whose image have leaked a few weeks ago. Actually originally I thought he was a seleçao ^^; but it looks like he isn't... probably...

[izmosmolnar]

Spoiler for about the preview of ep9:

I originally thought that the fat guy might be the corpse from Diana's introductory scene (especially considering that the one in the magazin was only in an underwear).
I was even wondering, why the hell they bothered to show us his picture, despite him being a non-relevant dead body .

It is clearly strange even #1 going to meet Akira, I'm clearly puzzled what is going to happen. Is #1 and #10 allies or something?
edit: (well the OP suggests they "should" have a more closer connection with each other, than other selecaos, because there is definitely a "connection-line" going between them throughout the OP's badge-scene, and that must mean something...

[golthin]

Spoiler for about ep9:

Another plothole in the show. you think an organization with the resources of Selecao would be able to properly do a purging of memory such that ANY hacker not matter how talented could not recover the erased data.

[Jan-Poo]

I'll have to see to come to a definitive judgment however yeah, a competent programmer knows how to completely delete any data beyond recovery.

[duckroll]

Originally Posted by golthin

Spoiler for about ep9:

Another plothole in the show. you think an organization with the resources of Selecao would be able to properly do a purging of memory such that ANY hacker not matter how talented could not recover the erased data.

But the history erase request was something No.9 asked for. It's not something the organization did or enforced to cover up anything. You're assuming they WANT to erase the data. I'm sure if No.9 specifically said "I want all history up to a certain point erased from my phone, and I want to ensure that the information can never be recovered in any way whatsoever." then that request would be carried out and it would possibly have cost even more.

[izmosmolnar]

Yeah, don't forget that the "purchase history erase" was kinda cheap for 40 yen (~4 Dollar 20 Cent) (SOURCE ; credit goes to silverya, thanks again)

So it's not impossible, it was just a half-assed order to delete 2 months worth of records from someone, and a more thorough order could cost more than just 40 Yen.
Or it's also possible Akira might have actually ordered Juiz to delete records in such a way, that the new-Akira could recover it, when he tries.

The thing bothering me, is that the whole thing starts looking, like it was actually his idea to memory-whipe himself for whatever reason, despite that I'd like to blame #1 for that (Somehow this "JUST AS PLANNED" sort of strategy-plans don't seem like Akira's style IMHO)

[silverya]

Actually no, the 900 yen is for the memory wipe. The 'purchase history erase' is 40 yen. I did a translation of the table about a week ago, found here:

http://community.livejournal.com/ede...13.html#cutid1

Will update it at some point. Anyway, most if not all the new entries have appeared in the subs. Rather amusing to see 11 bought back the hotel from 9 :9