Ore no Imouto - Light Novel & Manga Discussion Thread

[GDB]

Originally Posted by larethian

EDIT (other 'images of destruction' that I've missed : including a Kirino bedsheet or pillowcase if I'm not wrong?):
http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images...0602225522.jpg
The cuts are so nice that they don't feel particularly a wreck of rage

What I'm curious about is... if they hate Kirino (or rather, only support their chosen girl) so much, why do they have Kirino only merchandise like a dakimakura or bed sheet? I could understand if they were cutting up the covers of the books that had her on it, or some of the other images with posters that had the whole cast and the main cuts were on Kirino or whatever, but character specific merchandise?

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by GDB

What I'm curious about is... if they hate Kirino (or rather, only support their chosen girl) so much, why do they have Kirino only merchandise like a dakimakura or bed sheet? I could understand if they were cutting up the covers of the books that had her on it, or some of the other images with posters that had the whole cast and the main cuts were on Kirino or whatever, but character specific merchandise?

Fan's logic mate. Anything goes wrong with them they go nuts,well I'm short tempered but I would never get upset to an extent where I will rip my merchandise

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

Fan's logic mate. Anything goes wrong with them they go nuts,well I'm short tempered but I would never get upset to an extent where I will rip my merchandise

No, the point is, if they hate her that much, why do they have merchandise of her in the first place? Or do they specifically go out of their to purchase it so they can destroy it?

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by GDB

No, the point is, if they hate her that much, why do they have merchandise of her in the first place? Or do they specifically go out of their to purchase it so they can destroy it?

Well, I think it may be an other issue,maybe not liking the idea of it going the incest route and find it wrong and disgusting(although Im sure many want it)or just pure idiocy. Why will i destroy something I bought just cause of an anime???

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by GDB

No, the point is, if they hate her that much, why do they have merchandise of her in the first place? Or do they specifically go out of their to purchase it so they can destroy it?

There's a pretty good theory that much of the destruction is trolling for the lulz. Then there's the mentally unstable fringe.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Vexx

There's a pretty good theory that much of the destruction is trolling for the lulz. Then there's the mentally unstable fringe.

like people who buy ps3/xbos360...etc
in first day just to destroy it and stream it online

[Tennedealer22]

Originally Posted by Gundamx

like people who buy ps3/xbos360...etc
in first day just to destroy it and stream it online

well, I do remember a gif where Kirino appeared on a laptop/notebook? screen, then it gets jabbed by a pointy object

[silvercrow108]

Originally Posted by Tennedealer22

well, I do remember a gif where Kirino appeared on a laptop/notebook? screen, then it gets jabbed by a pointy object

wow this going to far guys , their logic i just can't understand it, they are too devoted and make it as if the stories must go as their wishes

[finalfury]

Originally Posted by silvercrow108

wow this going to far guys , their logic i just can't understand it, they are too devoted and make it as if the stories must go as their wishes

Emotion trumps logic and throws it into a garbage can. Hence why I usually say that humans are the servants to their emotions.

[erdii]

are those spoilers are true. during last two volumes of index there were true spoilers so ı was wondering credibility of spoilers.

[larethian]

Someone just posted a 'new' Kirino end spoiler. People are asking for images, but none so far. I would say the credibility is low, and everyone seems to be still in waiting and speculating mode. Incidentally, thanks to a troll, I got spoiled on some stuff for 'Attack on Titan"

[kazzuya13]

I really like the prologue of volume 12. Where everyone became honest with each other. And the graduation will become a huge confession event.

[VTP-DDM]

I've just read chapter three of Volume 11. Am I the only one that's bothered by Manami's advice for Kyousuke?

(I'll put this in spoilers just in case)

Spoiler:

It was important to make the younger Kyousuke realise that he has limitations and can't do everything by himself, but the idea that he should just give up because he has those limitations just doesn't sit right with me. I can understand that, as a close friend, she doesn't want him to keep pushing and hurting himself, but I just can't agree with her advice to give up if there's a problem he can't solve. I feel she should really encourage him to think things through clearly first and not try to solve everything by himself.

Minami's advice just seems to amount to: "you're ordinary, so stop trying to be anything more. If there's something you can't do, then just give up". I just can't see how that'd be the best way to solve a crisis of confidence.

[finalfury]

Originally Posted by VTP-DDM

I've just read chapter three of Volume 11. Am I the only one that's bothered by Manami's advice for Kyousuke?

(I'll put this in spoilers just in case)

Spoiler:

It was important to make the younger Kyousuke realise that he has limitations and can't do everything by himself, but the idea that he should just give up because he has those limitations just doesn't sit right with me. I can understand that, as a close friend, she doesn't want him to keep pushing and hurting himself, but I just can't agree with her advice to give up if there's a problem he can't solve. I feel she should really encourage him to think things through clearly first and not try to solve everything by himself.

Minami's advice just seems to amount to: "you're ordinary, so stop trying to be anything more. If there's something you can't do, then just give up". I just can't see how that'd be the best way to solve a crisis of confidence.

I guess I am bothered but her advice was more of a "kill two birds with one stone" kind of thing. Meaning that she had her own self agenda along with wanting to help Kyousuke which is why she said what she did. Not sure if I'm correct at all with what I just said. :/

[VTP-DDM]

Originally Posted by finalfury

I guess I am bothered but her advice was more of a "kill two birds with one stone" kind of thing. Meaning that she had her own self agenda along with wanting to help Kyousuke which is why she said what she did. Not sure if I'm correct at all with what I just said. :/

It's certain that Manami didn't really approve of what Kyousuke was doing, so I suppose it's possible that her advice was motivated partly out of her own self-agenda, too. It's hard to imagine her being that opportunistic, though, and that her advice wasn't mostly out of genuine concern and based off her own beliefs.

[astray71]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

To be frank, if the story ends with a Manami ending I will personally go to Japan and kill Tsukasa Fushimi, I dont care who he chooses as long as it is not Manami.

Spoiler:

I'm an Ayase fan, but after reading chapter 4 of volume 11, I really think it is Manami. He says "no matter if it is now or 3 years ago, my answer is the same" which leads me to believe that it had to be someone from back then, leaving the options to be Kirino or Manami. It'd be kind of weird for him to like Kirino when he and she were so young so it has to be Manami. Why do all these light novels end with wrong pairing? >.< I remember reading somewhere that Kampfer ended not with Shizuku when she was probably the only logical choice IMO.

Also, he says, "I planned to confess to her this time" which probably means that it can't be someone who hasn't confessed to him (ie. kirino - pretty sure she hasn't said she loved him before). It probably won't be kuroneko since he already told her that he loves her when they were dating.

Either that or my analysis is completely off. I'm still crossing my fingers for Ayase though!

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by astray71

Also, he says, "I planned to confess to her this time" which probably means that it can't be someone who hasn't confessed to him (ie. kirino - pretty sure she hasn't said she loved him before). It probably won't be kuroneko since he already told her that he loves her when they were dating.

The earlier part was already addressed earlier in the thread (the way it's worded is inconclusive/deliberately vague). But this part too is not necessarily meant in that way. The meaning here is just that he's going to be the one to take the initiative this time, rather then waiting for them/fate/circumstance to direct things. He could very well confess to someone who already confessed to him in the past, but he's taking the initiative to take the relationship to the next level. In other words, he's saying he's going to stop just going with the flow.

(And well, mostly it's just a hint to us in the audience that the final volume will bring some sort of conclusion to this whole thing.)

[Wilshere]

After reading Volume 11,my ideas became distorted. The only thing I know that Kyousuke will confess to someone ''new'' (not girls who confessed to him)leaving Manami in the front I guess and well for Kirino its somehow complicated I dont know how to explain, 2 days left to know what is hidden.

[Sakuratsuki]

After reading volume 11. I am afraid it's gonna be Manami. I would hate that ending 100%. It will leave me with a very very bad aftertaste after reading this great story.

If it is Manami. I would like better an open ending. Without him choosing anyone. Than rather seeing him confess to Manami. I didnt like her from the start. And in my eyes she is the devil who started the whole cold war between kirino and Kyousuke.

I am not trying to offend people who like manami but come on this was a really good novel and had a great story. With a lot of characters etc.

And the one he chooses is the plain girl?

I really gonna kill the writter if he pairs kyousuke up with Manami.

@relentlessflame thank you for the answer.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

The only thing I know that Kyousuke will confess to someone ''new'' (not girls who confessed to him)

As I just said above, how do you "know" this? I don't think that was actually said in the novel.

Originally Posted by mayid

Besides bakatsuki translated the epiloge of volume 12. But i dont see any illustrions besides it is not still 7 of june? weird.

This is the epilogue from volume 11 (which I suppose would be the sort of prologue to volume 12, but it's not in volume 12).


The other thing I would say regarding the whole "there's someone I'm already in love with" thing is to keep in mind that he did accept Kuroneko's confession over the course of this story and claimed to be in love with her. So it makes no sense for him to have been "always in love with Manami" and still have dated and fallen in love with Kuroneko. There was absolutely no barrier or reason why he couldn't have rejected her if he were still having the same feelings this whole time. So the whole "in love with the same person then and now" theory doesn't work if you apply it to Manami. The only person it could possibly apply to is Kirino, because she gave him permission to date Kuroneko. But, again, there's nothing to say that he was in love with the same person both then and now, and using that logic to say he's always loved Manami is illogical.

(And again, this isn't because I hate the character or would be opposed to scenarios where he may fall in love with her... it just doesn't fit the evidence on hand.)