2010-04-20, 21:30
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lurking Up Ahead
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 ). However 2 or 3 time since I've started people have post a scan with a Japanese > Chinese > English translation that made no damn since in many parts.  However the last few times we got a cahpter that had been translated twice (and not the preferred only once) a translator like Gernot made a translation quickly and someone else did a scan with that translation. The questions will be... Will we get a bad translation? And if we do... Can someone find the RAW so a translator can make a Japanese > English translation? (preferably quickly) |
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2010-04-21, 01:20
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada
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Odd how Sueisha is trying to piss people off...
As someone who subscribes to Jump SQ (at great expense due to mail costs), then allow me to say that this inconveniences me - I like to download the raws before the magazine finally finds a way to my door. The idiots at Sueisha seem to be going down the same route as the RIAA - waging war on their fans and then being left puzzled why they are leaving them in droves (and concluding it must be 'piracy' thus redoubling their efforts in their war on the fans they have left [see definition: downward spiral]). If it wasn't for online sites offering manga, I would not know about manga, and they certainly wouldn't be getting my money for it (which, when enumerating my collection only relating to Claymore[a minority of it], it includes: Full set of DVDs bought at full price, Blue-ray DVD box set, all Viz manga volumes, Japanese Jump SQ subscription, some Japanese manga volumes, the english Shonen Jump issue that ran the Claymore preview chapter, 2 pvc figures of Clare and 1 of Teresa, the upcoming figurine set with Teresa & Galatea-sama on pre-order, the Teresa wall scroll, a Clare pencil board, a Teresa key symbol chain, a Claymore necklace which I use in place of fuzzy dice in my car, the Claymore anime soundtrack, and probably a few other things I am forgetting [if it's not obvious from this list, if it's an official product and has Claymore on it, odds are good that I'll buy it]). Does Sueisha really want to piss me off? I pay them money because I want their product - if they change that, they are shooting themselves in the foot. They should take my patronage for granted at their own great risk. As for no japanese scans anymore - pff - come on people. With hundreds of thousands of copies in circulation, none will reach anyone with a scanner. Yeah right. We'll just have to wait a few extra days - oh nos. |
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2010-04-21, 03:47
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Cracow
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How it could be profitable? RIAA and others companies like them are sending to people warning where they write something like: Pay us ..... $/Euros/etc. or we will sue you. Most of people are paying, those tributes, combined, is a large sum of money. RIAA is paying this money to publishers, but of course after taking their share  Peoples working for corporation don't use common logic, but "corporation logic". They're not working for common goal, corporations profit etc, but they're working like "corporation ... bible" demands. Because some time ago, when Internet appeared, most of creators of corporation rules decided that piracy is bad and must be destroyed. In corporation people are not allowed to think for himself (unless it's required by corporation set of rules and only in described bounds), including most CEOs, so they're fighting with piracy. They're rewarded when they fight with piracy and punished if they don't. We also need to remember that after closing such page like raw paradise, for a short time, sales are increasing, and no one really cares what will happen in long run. There are exceptions, of course, like Microsoft... Few years ago in Poland Microsoft encouraged police (Microsoft was sponsoring police...) to start large scale operation against piracy. At first they were targeting companies, and it worked (for Microsoft) well. In next step they started to target students, lots of thorough searches of students dorms happened. To my surprise someone in Microsoft noticed that instead of increasing sales after a few months of this policy sales dropped. Students didn't bought legal windows, they started to use Linux. It was like a nightmare for Microsoft - companies are buying Windows and Office because it's cheaper to buy it than to teach people how to use Linux. But when workers already know how to use Linux, there is no reason to use Windows (unless company needs some programs available only with Windows). Now Microsoft is giving Windows to students for free. Third reason why they're fighting with piracy is because they're publishers. Publishers are intermediaries between authors and buyers. They're giving moneys to authors (regardless if this is manga, games, books, music etc.), advertise their products and organize sales. As a rule publishers earns more than authors, add that traditional distribution methods are expensive (sometimes distribution cost is more than 50% of ending price), authors earns, at best, 20% of price paid by buyers. Internet is crushing this. Distribution is cheap (nothing to produce, nothing to transport, no need for shops and salesman, you have to pay only for hosting and Internet shop - much cheaper than traditional). Advertising is cheaper than in traditional media, and if you know how to use piracy for advertising - it's free. And most importantly -it's possible for authors to sell their product directly or semi directly. There is no place for publishers in Internet era, they're aware of it, so they're fighting with piracy with all their might - they need to if they want to survive (IMHO they won't).
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2010-04-21, 08:16
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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While I agree with most of your points, Arturro, there is one thing that gets me.
You use the word "corportation" as if it was a dirty word or something. There is nothing wrong with corporations per se. Nor is there anything wrong with "profits". Or for that matter, corporations seeking profits. Corporations are, afterall, just the outgrowth of an individual creating merchandise for the purpose of selling it for a profit. Because the task of creating the merchandise ends up requiring help, jobs are created. No corporation and/or profits - no merchanise and employment. Wanting people to work without allowing profit is socialism, and, if you're from Poland, just ask your parents how that works out (they should have many fascinating stories of what a mere 50 years of it accomplished). People who want corporations to function without profits are naive when it comes to economics. Sure, corporations occasionally get too beurocratized, but a corporation is just a sum of it's people. When bad decisions are made, they're made by a person at the company. When bad decisions are supported by management, the fault is with board of directors/CEO for tolerating that kind of management. When the CEO/board make bad decisions, the market fixes the problem and the company goes under and replaced by another that doesn't make bad choices. When things start to become a problem is when the government gets involved. It's government that puts law making up for for sale (i.e. for re-election funds) - you can't really blame corportations for taking advantage of that (if they don't, their competitors will). This is the reason for all sorts of idiotic and deeply flawed legislation like the DMCA, WIPO, ACTA, etc, a bunch of ridiculous tax laws and loopholes, as well as all sorts of market tampering like supporting companies that "are too big to fail", artificially creating monopolies in order to "improve service", and encouraging sub-prime morgages under the guise of "affordable housing". So don't blame corporations for a lot of these messes. You'll notice that even in your example, Microsoft stopped when it noticed it was shooting itself in the foot (and I really don't see a problem in requiring companies to use licensed software). If you look deep enough into the circumstances of the mess, the government is usually to blame due to some half-baked, idiotic legislation. The media, which has become little more than the PR wing of government these days, then successfully misdirects blame at the corporation while they support the real criminals for re-election. Don't fall for this, and put the blame where it's due. |
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2010-04-21, 09:36
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I write about corporations because it's an environment, where people act irrational - at least for someone outside of corporation (they're acting irrational because it's the safest way to keep their jobs). It's a problem, because corporations are big and influential enough to affect whole markets. In a wrong way. And because of stupid legislation rules of free market doesn't apply to corporations.
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2010-04-22, 17:30
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Next chapter probably will be fully Priscila based... sadly... unless she will finally do something interesting and will stop being a godly Aizen who is damn boring now...
I'm curiouse how exactly Clare/Helen/Deneve are going to survive it... will Priscila get bored and leave? What I myself hope to see the most is Dietrich/Yuma/Cynthis situation and fight, seems far more exciting for me. And also want to know whar are Miria's next actions after receiving the message. I have a feeling that Dietrich didn't come only with zombies back.
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2010-04-22, 17:32
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Yeah seriously...one piece of news leads to essay-long posts about copyright laws and the operations of businesses and such
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2010-04-22, 19:16
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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Yeah, more than likely in the next chap, will see the conclusion of the AE vs hellcats and Destroyer Dauf vs Priscilla battles.
Then our cliffhanger will be Miria showing up 2 save Clare and co.
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2010-04-22, 20:54
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(Clare+miria)^awakening=pwnage in other words, Clare and miria fuse and then awaken and beat the c*** out of Priscilla On a more serious note, I think that at the moment, there is no way Priscilla can be beaten. She is Aizen/god-like. Clare or miria would need a new weapon or ability of some sort or a weakness in Priscilla has to be discovered before she can actually be defeated. ________ SICK FROM AVANDIA Last edited by Rennir; 2011-04-19 at 05:09. |
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2010-04-22, 22:17
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I guess there must be some secret hidden in Raphaela's memories. doubt that she gave them to Clare just out of boredom...
And the best weapon would be having Teresa's powers awaken in Clare after all 10% awakened Teresa was having upper hand over 70-80% awakened Priscilia... I know what would make Priscila more interesting, if she would gain her memories back. Mostly when being Claymore and fighting Teresa. That sure would make her act sligghtly more interesting.
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2010-04-22, 23:00
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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Wow
 I dont have anything 2 say 2 that. Except that could possibly be a correct theory. That does bring up a good point there had 2 be org navigators on those ships guiding the crews around in circles and not finding anything. If there wasnt Im pretty sure normal sailors and sea merchants ,traders,ect... would have found new land by now. 
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2010-04-23, 07:38
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Makes sence, after all Columb did find America
So yeh, organization might have done something to make them go in circles. Gambino009 Also makes sence, since you never know when this wound might be fatal. For example Cynthia was litteraly on death bed, it is a miracle that she had survived. Now that I think about it... it was a long time since positive characters had died... makes me nervouse now 
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2010-04-23, 08:21
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lol.
