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Fireminer · 2013-11-06, 09:06

For now, I just want:

1.The US to finish F-35 and sell them all over the world.

And...

2.Russia delivered to us the remaining Su30MK2V, the third Kilo-class submarine, and not sell Su-35S to China.

All for the sake of halting China espansion.

SaintessHeart · 2013-11-06, 09:16

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Originally Posted by Fireminer

For now, I just want:

1.The US to finish F-35 and sell them all over the world.

And...

2.Russia delivered to us the remaining Su30MK2V, the third Kilo-class submarine, and not sell Su-35S to China.

All for the sake of halting China espansion.

Technically speaking, China has got the world's biggest factories and domestic resource, but with that amount of population they definitely need more.

And they know a war can hurt their economic drive, so they would prefer to buy out those countries with resources first, then when US's regional military influence is no longer a threat, they settle everything else by force.

P.S The F-35 wouldn't be a flying target for China's J-31 if they just fucking removed the VTOL capability and put in AESA radar/ECM extender components.

ArchmageXin · 2013-11-06, 09:30

F-35s? Dude, if half of what is written about the F-35 is true, China would do more damage by letting every country overload themselves with F-35s.

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Testifying before a Canadian parliamentary committee in 2011, Rear Admiral Arne Røksund of Norway estimated that his country's 52 F-35 fighter jets will cost $769 million each over their operational lifetime.[105]

That is right, 15.38 million dollars a plane. On maintenance. It will cost U.S gov 1.51 Trillion dollars to cover the cost of the plane through out the 50 years life cycle. And course, that is not including upgrade, overhall etc.

Fireminer · 2013-11-06, 09:38

Hmm... What about Taiwan, Mongolia and the whole ASEAN? My dear international friends, China is trying to torn every countries into bits, and then openly devouring them raw, when the land still soaked with blood.

Don't mean anything racism - We're all human after all. But correct me if I'm wrong: Didn't China's Conquista Idealogist has existed along with the acient tribles on the Yellow River and then carried to today? For example, if you look closely at the One Hundred Days reform and their decleration, you could spot some sentences about these ideal.

ArchmageXin · 2013-11-06, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Fireminer

Hmm... What about Taiwan, Mongolia and the whole ASEAN? My dear international friends, China is trying to torn every countries into bits, and then openly devouring them raw, when the land still soaked with blood.

Don't mean anything racism - We're all human after all. But correct me if I'm wrong: Didn't China's Conquista Idealogist has existed along with the acient tribles on the Yellow River and then carried to today? For example, if you look closely at the One Hundred Days reform and their decleration, you could spot some sentences about these ideal.

Really? Do I see bombs falling on Tawain? Nope. Marines landing in Manilla? Not really. Tokyo struck with nuclear weapons? Hardly. Massacre in Singapore over a broken railroad? Didn't see it. Agent Orange drops Vietnam over a stray fishing boat? Nope. Terrorist attack in Mumbai? Nope.

So who is China "devouring raw" these days? Dispute some heated words now and then, China is remarkably restrained in her military action.

Fireminer · 2013-11-06, 10:10

And believe me, that won't keep long. Read this:

http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/phant...1310/52991.vnd

Use Google Translator.

And haven't you know President Xi's "China Dream"?

Ridwan · 2013-11-06, 10:10

China is simply returning to its traditional role as the regional leader in East Asia. Its size simply renders it hard to prevent its coming back once it gets its shape together. If only China doesn't have so much chips on its shoulder and we're in better enough shape to set our conditions, I wouldn't really mind with Chinese leadership in the region. Alas, by things as they are, it will only lead to terrible things, both in China and the neighborhood.

Fireminer · 2013-11-06, 10:15

Look like one of my wish is granted:

Russia refused to sell Su-35 to China due to "technical problem"

Read more at: http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/tintu...1311/53048.vnd

ArchmageXin · 2013-11-06, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireminer

And believe me, that won't keep long. Read this:

http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/phant...1310/52991.vnd

Use Google Translator.

And haven't you know President Xi's "China Dream"?

You are going to need more creditability than a website called "Vietnam Defense." Plus, if China is really getting serious, you can always hide behind America's armored skirt.

Also, every leader have their "country dreams." If you are bothered too much about dreams. I recommend better sleeping pills.

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Read more at: http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/tintu...1311/53048.vnd

http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-b...-fighter-jets/

Oh look, they did make the sale after all. And the crutch of the issue was Russia worried about China reverse engineering the design, than any interest in the reassuring SEAN paranoia.

Edit: Actually, from my reading of recent articles, China really didn't care about the SU-35 but only in its engines. Thus, China only wanted 24 SU-35, while Russia insisted more.

MrTerrorist · 2013-11-06, 12:28

Brazil defends spying as 'different' from that of US

Oh the embarrassment and hypocrisy.

ArchmageXin · 2013-11-06, 12:51

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Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Brazil defends spying as 'different' from that of US

Oh the embarrassment and hypocrisy.

Actually, they aren't far off.

Brazil is doing traditional spying. I.E bugging embassies, spying on Government centers, etc. Gov on Gov stuff. The "traditional" spying.

America is hitting civilian traffic ALL OVER THE WORLD. That is beyond the pale. It is going to big brother stuff.

Should a Major General working in the Kremlin worry about American bugs? You betcha. Should random Japanese kid in Tokyo worry about NSA sucking up her Email? No.

1984.

Libros · 2013-11-06, 14:28

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Originally Posted by ArchmageXin

Actually, they aren't far off.

Brazil is doing traditional spying. I.E bugging embassies, spying on Government centers, etc. Gov on Gov stuff. The "traditional" spying.

America is hitting civilian traffic ALL OVER THE WORLD. That is beyond the pale. It is going to big brother stuff.

Should a Major General working in the Kremlin worry about American bugs? You betcha. Should random Japanese kid in Tokyo worry about NSA sucking up her Email? Yes.

1984.

Don't you mean 'no' for the Japanese kid?

konart · 2013-11-06, 15:18

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Originally Posted by ArchmageXin

http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-b...-fighter-jets/

Oh look, they did make the sale after all. And the crutch of the issue was Russia worried about China reverse engineering the design, than any interest in the reassuring SEAN paranoia.

Edit: Actually, from my reading of recent articles, China really didn't care about the SU-35 but only in its engines. Thus, China only wanted 24 SU-35, while Russia insisted more.

Just like the last time. The funny thing here - they still didn't manage to copy previous generation engines

Seitsuki · 2013-11-06, 15:21

Media has consistently shown that Japanese school age kids are actually far more competent and deadly than their adults and some are even the equivalent of tactical weapons. Keeping and eye on them is only prudent.

Xellos-_^ · 2013-11-06, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Seitsuki

Media has consistently shown that Japanese school age kids are actually far more competent and deadly than their adults and some are even the equivalent of tactical weapons. Keeping and eye on them is only prudent.

especially the Student Body President

ganbaru · 2013-11-06, 16:42

Rand Paul admits his plagiarism 'is my fault'
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...arism/3451991/

Quote:

If dueling were legal in Kentucky, if they keep it up, you know, it would be a duel challenge. But I can’t do that, because I can’t hold office in Kentucky then

Isn't that guy supposed to be one of the ''brain'' in the GOP ?

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Originally Posted by konart

Just like the last time. The funny thing here - they still didn't manage to copy previous generation engines

Isn't true than they still have issue developing a modern, 100% Chinese engine?

Sumeragi · 2013-11-06, 17:15

From what I know, rockets are the only equipment which PRC can say is truly Chinese.

ArchmageXin · 2013-11-06, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

From what I know, rockets are the only equipment which PRC can say is truly Chinese.

Which is more what we can say for Japan at this point? If we are really going back in history...

Edit: China also invent the world first Land mines. I will assume bow, swords, and axes to generic to be claimed by anyone civilization~

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Originally Posted by Libros

Don't you mean 'no' for the Japanese kid?

Opps. Yes, I meant to say no. edited.

willx · 2013-11-06, 17:50

And spaghetti. The greatest invention in the history of mankind.

Fireminer · 2013-11-06, 17:59

Pss... If not for these 19th and 20th century of half-colonial years, China might have be something great.

Japan couldn't developed weapon, not that they don't want to or they don't have the ability. Remember the F-2 Zero Viper? Even a design decades old could caused a ruckus between Japan and America.

Oh, and one last thing: Have the American Dream in the 50s-90s lead to something great?

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Ridwan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: قلوب المؤمنين	China is simply returning to its traditional role as the regional leader in East Asia. Its size simply renders it hard to prevent its coming back once it gets its shape together. If only China doesn't have so much chips on its shoulder and we're in better enough shape to set our conditions, I wouldn't really mind with Chinese leadership in the region. Alas, by things as they are, it will only lead to terrible things, both in China and the neighborhood. __________________

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MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Brazil defends spying as 'different' from that of US Oh the embarrassment and hypocrisy. __________________

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Seitsuki Onee! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ	Media has consistently shown that Japanese school age kids are actually far more competent and deadly than their adults and some are even the equivalent of tactical weapons. Keeping and eye on them is only prudent. __________________ thanks to Patchy ♥

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Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	For now, I just want: 1.The US to finish F-35 and sell them all over the world. And... 2.Russia delivered to us the remaining Su30MK2V, the third Kilo-class submarine, and not sell Su-35S to China. All for the sake of halting China espansion.

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Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Hmm... What about Taiwan, Mongolia and the whole ASEAN? My dear international friends, China is trying to torn every countries into bits, and then openly devouring them raw, when the land still soaked with blood. Don't mean anything racism - We're all human after all. But correct me if I'm wrong: Didn't China's Conquista Idealogist has existed along with the acient tribles on the Yellow River and then carried to today? For example, if you look closely at the One Hundred Days reform and their decleration, you could spot some sentences about these ideal.

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Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	And believe me, that won't keep long. Read this: http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/phant...1310/52991.vnd Use Google Translator. And haven't you know President Xi's "China Dream"?

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Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Look like one of my wish is granted: Russia refused to sell Su-35 to China due to "technical problem" Read more at: http://vietnamdefence.com/Home/tintu...1311/53048.vnd

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Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	From what I know, rockets are the only equipment which PRC can say is truly Chinese.

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Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Pss... If not for these 19th and 20th century of half-colonial years, China might have be something great. Japan couldn't developed weapon, not that they don't want to or they don't have the ability. Remember the F-2 Zero Viper? Even a design decades old could caused a ruckus between Japan and America. Oh, and one last thing: Have the American Dream in the 50s-90s lead to something great?