Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion

[Keroko]

Works for me.

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

It would seem to me that a standardised Jacket, since it's from an existing template, would need less mucking around with to make sure it works perfectly all the time. <.<

Aha, the standardised ammo thing for cartridges applied to barrier jackets? I agree, it works for me.

[Wild Goose]

Occam's Razor. *grins* I've probably got the quotation wrong, but the colloquial version states, "The simplest explanation is usually the right one, don't go mucking about looking for trouble."

Well, the campaign/crusade in the Fanfic Thread is now taking a back seat. Hopefully there will be a shakeup now... worse comes to worse, I guess I'll have to start trawling there and responding to new authors.

I think a point I should have made to Skyfall was that Fanfic is stagnating in comparison to OC... on the other hand, there are times when the backlog overwhelms me He's just lucky I'm not Nodsri from Darkscribes. Nodsri, whenever asked to get back on track, goes, "I'm a Malaysian, it's my god-given duty to detail threads. Fuck off, nigga!" :P

Well, anyway, the points have been raised. It's outta our ballcourts now.

So, dkellis, what are your plans for the 37th CIAA?

[LoweGear]

Don't mind this cute Athena-sama image, I just felt like it

@ Barrier Jackets:

I'm more under the impression that there are grunts that do change their outfits, albeit in minor ways. For the most part though, they simply don't bother. Even if given the option, not many servicemen I know, including my brother, would change the standard battle dress uniform. Equipment is another matter, depending on one's individual resources.

[Wild Goose]

*chuckles*
"How can you tell who are Navy SEALs? Eight guys dressed differently, doing the same thing." - SEAL Qualification Training Instructor.

The main reason I decided to have the Assault Platoon use a uniform Barrier Jacket was pretty much as above, a way of distinguishing themselves, and for Ivanovich, keeping the Marine heritage of Erusia alive (the green-patterned camo BDUs that the OFM people were wearing in the debriefing room were the Halo 3 fatigues sans body armor). The Air Wing girls get their magic dresses because of morale issues, as well as te fact that the guys look to the sky and pray for panchira. *laughs*

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

So, dkellis, what are your plans for the 37th CIAA?

You know the feeling you get when you have a secret? A secret that you want to tell everyone because you think that it's the coolest thing ever, but if you tell anyone, it'll spoil the whole thing and everyone's just kind of left with an uneasy sense of letdown?

You know the feeling you get when someone asks you what that secret is?

Yeah.

Suffice to say that I have huge plans for the 37th CIAA. I have the rough outlines for the entire trilogy (already had them when I made the characters, actually), and the only problem I'm facing is filling in all that empty space between the outlines with actual story, because if I jump straight into the Cool Bits, nobody but me will care, and that spoils all the fun.

On the grand scale of things, it's not that epic, no galaxies colliding or anything, but that's my challenge: to take this not-so-epic story that's still important to these characters on a very personal level, and to make the reader care about them as well.

EDIT: I just thought of a neat encapsulation of what my goals are for the 37th CIAA:

I want anyone who reads the story to be able to feel that these characters deserve their place in the Nanoha-verse as well as the canon characters, instead of usurping the position of Main Characters. I want readers to be able to read the story as a MSLN fanfic, and not care that they are not reading about Nanoha or Fate or Subaru or any of the canon characters.

Lofty goal, I admit, but I'm trying to aim high.

[Wild Goose]

I see. *nodding*

One of the things that I've noted is that a lot of things that mean a great deal to us are really trivial matters in the grand scheme of things. But that doesn't matter to the heart, because to the heart, all matters, well, matter.

For Kagerou and myself, because we don't really have any overarching plot for the OFM, it's given us freedom to explore and flesh out the unit, with each fic taking on a life of its own, having a place of its own, without us needing to worry about one main connecting thread.

I'm attempting to correct that in Disrupted Tangent, my rewrite of StrikerS... that reminds me, Keroko - can I use both Tesla-chan and Keroko-chan in DT as well?

At any rate, the next OFM short, which might actually come out before Joint Training Pt.3, will be 200th Hour, Naomi's short. (It's somehow ended up that each key OFM charecter is getting a short fic of their own; the last in the line are Naomi, Ivanovich, and Chief...)

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by dkellis

EDIT: I just thought of a neat encapsulation of what my goals are for the 37th CIAA:

I want anyone who reads the story to be able to feel that these characters deserve their place in the Nanoha-verse as well as the canon characters, instead of usurping the position of Main Characters. I want readers to be able to read the story as a MSLN fanfic, and not care that they are not reading about Nanoha or Fate or Subaru or any of the canon characters.

Lofty goal, I admit, but I'm trying to aim high.

Congratulations. You just described almost exactly what I did with Keroko. Trust me, while it can be difficult at teams (almost hair-pullingly so) and there will be times when your characters can't partake in the grand action (like the battle above the ocean in S1 and the fight against Vivio in StrikerS for Keroko) it is very much possible. Your integration differs slightly from mine, but our goals are the same. If you need any advice, I'll be happy to help.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

I'm attempting to correct that in Disrupted Tangent, my rewrite of StrikerS... that reminds me, Keroko - can I use both Tesla-chan and Keroko-chan in DT as well?

Go right ahead.

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by Keroko

If you need any advice, I'll be happy to help.

Advice needed: how can I stop myself from screaming in frustration at Seven Arcs for all the unexplained canon oddities (lol Einherjar) and all the continuity weirdness (lol flying mage rankings)?

[Chaos2Frozen]

"Oh Mandy, well you came and you gave without taking...
But I sent you away, oh Mandy~
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shakin'
and I need you today. Oh, Mandy~"

Originally Posted by Keroko

It's clear that your experience in the world of traps is limited.

The reason why I said that is because as kids, you can't check for visible signs like boobs, and all of their voices have every reason to sound like girls...

...But then again, takes one to know one... >.>

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

As if I'll know that.

How the heck could you mistake that for a skirt?

Or have you become so paranoid about traps that you see them everywhere?

Originally Posted by dkellis

I hope that at least some of those Enforcers are A+, since that's what my OC Nova's backstory is like: she was one of those sent against Precia, and the damage from the battle burned out her Linker Core.

I'm justfiying it by thinking that considering how powerful Precia is and how dangerous she is known to be, they'll be sending the best of the best against her. This means that anyone below A rank would probably not be sent out, since it's not likely that they'd survive the encounter.

I like to think that a boss-fight encounter with Precia, is like fighting Murmur in Shadow Labyrinth... She's running on 40% health, and has random outbursts that deal massive AOE damage...

Oh yeah, she hardly/cant move as well.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Edit: I'm pretty sure that you can fly down the lenght of the barrels, in keeping with the grand traditions of Ace Combat. It wasn't enough to make us do tunnels, we had to fly down the barrel ofa giant railgun in 6....

Yeah, I just played that mission -_-

Brother: "Steady, steady...Now speed up!"

Kaos: "ARE YOU INSANE?!"

Brother: "Be brave!"

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Lady in the back looks like Evangeline

Well, you can call her a lady I guess, but she's really just a k... >.>

*coughyujishanacough*

[Erio]

Hey guys, I'm looking for general TSAB information such as military titles (Admiral, Commander, etc). Is there a list of TSAB military titles and positions? If it includes brief descriptions it would be great, as I am not too familiar with military stuff.

Also, is there an official, or rather, a formal name for the "three brains"?

Hopefully Keroko knows...

Originally Posted by Keroko

Welcome back Erio. Take your time, rushing doesn't help good stories or profiles. And work your way through the backlog at your own pace. We'll help you if you get confused.

Thanks. Yeah, I've been taking my time with the profiles. I've been working on them for quite some time now.

I've read most of the backlog, but I'm still missing the bluecheesium posts... I caught a cold yesterday, so that didnt help much.

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Well to be fair I'm normally not one to scream "omg it sucked too much please redo it lololol" like some of those random anime blog trolls. But I personally think StrikerS should have been a S4 or even S5 and a series with an earlier timeline should be made first.

It would probably have been better. Though perhaps a change in management internally in 7arcs and stuff prompted the lousy production for the TV version of StrikerS. Though that's probably a little too far-fetched and maybe 7arcs just decided that they didn't wanna spend too much money but just milk as much as they can through merchandising.

We'll never know.

The huge timeskip has actually helped me quite a lot. I have a LOT of new ideas that I will be introducing with my characters' new profiles.

I complaint about StrikerS to some real life friends. I think there was once me and PF were discussing about it while on an outing somewhere. I don't really know many people who like the mahou shoujo genre though, so its hard to find people around me to talk about it.

I forced one of my friends to watch Nanoha and A's... at least he liked the talking devices. I dont think I'll be forcing him to watch StrikerS, though.

Welcome back! Hope you enjoyed your trip. Don't worry about the backlog really, its not that bad.

Yeah, thankfully its not that bad.

Looking forward to more Gwen hawtness.

I did find some hawt new pics for her...

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Yo! Everyone's still around to welcome you back.

Haha, glad to see that.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Welcome back, Erio! Good luck with backlog breaking. I'm still stuck here until weekends before I can tackle the holiday backlog properly.

Stuck "here"? I guess you're on a trip as well?

Originally Posted by LoweGear

How many thanksgiving parties am I supposed to go to anyway? I swear, my stomach's gonna burst soon if I don't quit

You're still going to parties? Geez.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by dkellis

You know the feeling you get when you have a secret? A secret that you want to tell everyone because you think that it's the coolest thing ever, but if you tell anyone, it'll spoil the whole thing and everyone's just kind of left with an uneasy sense of letdown?

You know the feeling you get when someone asks you what that secret is?

Yeah.

Aaaah I know that feeling all too well, though sadly there are some plans I've leaked out into the open that initially didn't want to Suffice it to say, I need more self-control

On the grand scale of things, it's not that epic, no galaxies colliding or anything, but that's my challenge: to take this not-so-epic story that's still important to these characters on a very personal level, and to make the reader care about them as well.
EDIT: I just thought of a neat encapsulation of what my goals are for the 37th CIAA:

I want anyone who reads the story to be able to feel that these characters deserve their place in the Nanoha-verse as well as the canon characters, instead of usurping the position of Main Characters. I want readers to be able to read the story as a MSLN fanfic, and not care that they are not reading about Nanoha or Fate or Subaru or any of the canon characters.

Lofty goal, I admit, but I'm trying to aim high.

I think you just put into words what the true spirit of the OC thread is all about, beneath all the bluecheesium, the crack, the banter, the jokes, and the ideas: We really just want to create CHARACTERS, personalities that we nurture with our own words and imaginations. Trust me, that goal of yours is also one we aspire as well

Originally Posted by dkellis

Advice needed: how can I stop myself from screaming in frustration at Seven Arcs for all the unexplained canon oddities (lol Einherjar) and all the continuity weirdness (lol flying mage rankings)?

... Ignore it? All we're really doing in the OC is using the Nanohaverse setting as a base for our stories and scenarios. Everything else they didn't bother to explain, is fair game for our Crack Think Tank

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

"Oh Mandy, well you came and you gave without taking...
But I sent you away, oh Mandy~
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shakin'
and I need you today. Oh, Mandy~"

Had too much Barry Manilow today?

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Well, you can call her a lady I guess, but she's really just a k... >.>

*coughyujishanacough*

Nice Pic

Originally Posted by Erio

Hey guys, I'm looking for general TSAB information such as military titles (Admiral, Commander, etc). Is there a list of TSAB military titles and positions? If it includes brief descriptions it would be great, as I am not too familiar with military stuff.

Also, is there an official, or rather, a formal name for the "three brains"?

Hopefully Keroko knows...

More research for your new juicy scenarios I see (reply pending)

Originally Posted by Erio

I've read most of the backlog, but I'm still missing the bluecheesium posts... I caught a cold yesterday, so that didnt help much.

Better get well soon then

Originally Posted by Erio

You're still going to parties? Geez.

I actually had to go to another one today, which'll entail me going to the northern provinces (note to Flips: Cagayan) for nearly a week of eating, drinking and merriness I had to turn it down to attend to other matters, like running this shop and keeping the money flow in

[Erio]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Aaaah I know that feeling all too well, though sadly there are some plans I've leaked out into the open that initially didn't want to Suffice it to say, I need more self-control

Mmm, secrets.

I think you just put into words what the true spirit of the OC thread is all about, beneath all the bluecheesium, the crack, the banter, the jokes, and the ideas: We really just want to create CHARACTERS, personalities that we nurture with our own words and imaginations. Trust me, that goal of yours is also one we aspire as well

And to dkellis: That is what differentiates our thread with the Fanfic one. In here, all characters are important, even if they are not related to CCs at all. Over there, however, no NxF = crap.

More research for your new juicy scenarios I see (reply pending)

Waiting impatiently for it.

Better get well soon then

I am, thanks.

I actually had to go to another one today, which'll entail me going to the northern provinces (note to Flips: Cagayan) for nearly a week of eating, drinking and merriness I had to turn it down to attend to other matters, like running this shop and keeping the money flow in

I find it interesting that you are STILL having so many parties after the holidays.

[krisslanza]

*Pokes on in*
This is something posted in fanfiction, but since it is also directly involved in my own little storyline bit and involves a OC... I feel this is another approporiate place to show it and see what you all think.

I didn't write this. My partner in crime did >3
He is handling all the Varista stuff for me while I work on the TSAB

Spoiler for Arc-en-Ciel:

Beauty on the Pyre
An Arc-en-Ciel teaser

Chapter One
Riding on the Winds of Change

There was something unsettling about this woman. The way she simply sighed and stared; gazing out the great glass window into the starlit sky. Of course, her circumstances were far from enviable…but that didn’t mean she had to be a bitch about it. “More wine?” Erika offered with a cheerful smile – as best as she could manage. She was torn, really, between hating the Erika von Cale she knew for being reduced to mollycoddling their honoured guest and relishing the challenge of finding out what made her tick. Erika bit on her thumb, wide eyed in anticipation of such a simple answer. The pause was insufferably pregnant.

“No…thanks.” She spoke! Erika’s eye twitched ever so slightly. For once, the Inquisitor had met her apparent match. With practiced habit, she brushed her dusty blonde hair out of her eyes and made to relax. It was…well, it was hard. You could almost feel the power coursing from her – backed up by a confidence that simply oozed from every pore in her body. Even here, effectively a prisoner like this woman was, and surrounded by the most impressive security features known to the Emperor she remained undaunted.

To tell the honest truth, Erika did not feel entirely safe. Years of instinct were screaming at her to run or fight or something! Anything but sit here and sip expensive drinks (though, Erika mused, the red was particularly fine). She licked her lips and poured herself another glass, raising it to her mouth. Fate Testarossa…what a unique, talented, arrogant, prideful little minx she was. Erika smiled to herself. She hated her.

*Slinks off to class*

[Kagerou]

Spoiler for Fanfic thread closed...:

Spoiler for This is not good:

Spoiler for There's an image in here somehwere:

Spoiler for I didn't mean for this to happen. I just tried to mediate things:

Spoiler for I forgot the internet was serious business:

Spoiler for in before...:

Originally Posted by Kha

I wonder why it was the EVA fandom to invent the term though. Is it the sheer lack of it in series?

...yeah pretty much. The term was thought up for the overly-fluffy-with-no-possible-way-of-happening plots that the early great Eva authors did. Strike Fiss's Higher Learning (which deserved to be mentioned any chance it gets), Rakna's The One I Love Is... (with scenes that arguably started the trend of calling things WAFF), and many, many others (read: In Eva-fiction, there is/used to be this thing called WAFF-a-thon. I'm sure you can guess what it was about).

Originally Posted by Kha

Mine sorta leans somewhere in between. And the Logians ARE proteans of sorts, like the Xel'Naga, Titans, and whatever series you are coming from might even be the same group!

I loop them all under Ancestor Race. Yuuno-kun is writing a thesis on them as we speak (cough).

Originally Posted by Kha

In Rebuilt, those giant cannons hide a secret. Ever wondered why there were only 3 cannons? Huge ones at that too. Now let's say someone managed to get intel to Saint Church. I'm using the sword named "Einherjar" from Riviera the Promised Land for the idea behind the nomenclature of the weapon. As for what's inside, Formation Saint anyone?

I'm suddenly reminded of Planescape's "Rule of Three" but I figure it has nothing to do with that XD.

Originally Posted by Kha

One of the main focus of Rebuilt is like I said before a better look at the tech being used. Today we focus on one of the biggest points of contention in Rebuilt's design: mecha.

...You have my attention.

Originally Posted by Kha

The Grades

Unlike normal mecha, Grades focused on mobility and humanoid operation over weapon load. As such, this family sport a humanoid core of myomer fibres, thrusters and armor with minimal weapons built into the hull save a few compact CIWS. The advantage of this chassis design over the CASE system is that while CASE mecha have to tank it like a rock due to the lack of agility, the Grade could just vault around or fly out of the way.

The smaller Grades in their heyday were formidable foes, but after the Anti-Warfare TEchnology Proliferation (AWTEP) Bill enacted in 0000, most of the Grades, along with various other types of warfare machinery, were outlawed and decommissioned. Only the massive and impractical Perfect Grades were spared, though the logic, like many portions of the Bill, was more of a double standard: it permitted the TSAB sniper's best friend to stay viable, namely, the Juggernaut.

First Grade

The lightest of the 4 classes, First Grades stand at up to 5m of height. As they are basically exoframes, these mechanical suits were the favorite infantry of old. No mass produced example currently exist, though under the Powers of War Act, in the state of war in dire situations, the TSAB can field a modern variant called the ZAKU Trooper, as the personal Ion Cannon, the only 1 of 2 types of warfare weaponry allowed by the PoW Act, with the other being Plasma Projectile Launchers, mounted on the Grade is way too heavy to be carried by a mage.

High Grade

Standing at a maximum of 14m in height, the High Grade was the bridge between the multirole Firsts and the powerful Masters. The once-common Arm Slaves were a type of High Grade. No High Grades exist in TSAB controlled space.

Master Grade

The true master of war, a Master Grade under the hands of an Ace can destroy pretty much anything. Throughout history since the advent of the Grades, the Master Grade class were often the focus of super-weapon development, able to carry reasonably powerful armanents without losing much dexterity and armor.

No legal Master Grade exist, as the last Machine Robos (how they escaped the axe for so long was due to another clause) were decommissioned a decade ago. However, Celestial Being has resurfaced fielding what scientists call the Holy Grail of Grades, as the machines used Artificial Linker Cores as a power source instead of the pollutive ultralite fusion reactors used by Master Grades in the past. This made the "GUNDAM", named after the Eta God of War, fall into a grey area in the AWTEP Bill, and to date the TSAB has only been able to chase them on grounds of their vigilante actions.

Perfect Grade

Basically any walker above 20m in height, the Perfect Grade was nothing except maybe being the perfect walking Humpty-Dumpty. While bristling with firepower, their strained legs make them a easy target for commandos and their seaforium charges. As such, very few existed, and those that did were just scientific curiosities. The TSAB keeps an army of Juggernauts on every AW in the event of a martial emergency, where their steel rain would come in useful for any sniper. Vice knows this very well.

So basically it goes like:

- First: Grunt Real Robots. (Gespenst Mk-II)
- High: Powerful Real Robots. (Huckebein 008R)
- Master: High-grade Real Robots/Super Robots. (R-1, Cybuster)
- Perfect: God mecha? (Ideon?)

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Haha, yes. Kagerou was a bit wary of the OFM under TK's SOPCC until I said, "O'Neil's in charge, the SG-1 O'neil," and he went "FUCK YES STARGATE." ^_^ In a little scene I have written somewhere, Franz and O'Neil can get along well due to both of them drinking Guiness.

...yeah pretty much.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Indeed, I believe so. On the other hand, Skyfall may have been thinking that if he had to err, he'd better err on the side of hardness than to risk a troll - I operate under similar ROE on the other forums where I am a mod. Though I usually try and keep things a bit cool: "Okay y'all, now play nice."

I'm not too sure people realise the situation: Skyfall is in apparent denial *shrug* At any rate, after a final post, I'll make a tactical withdrawl. I have no intentions of picking a fight and getting tempbanned.

In his own words, he's not in denial, he simply does not care. Somehow, I can respect that (comes with... ah, nevermind).

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Quite possible... my interpretation was that all Mages who are officers are at least A rank, and it seemed to be implying to me that all Mages A rank and above have to go to OCS... which is why I have Ivanovich pretending to be a B- when he's really AA+: he doesn't want to go to OCS and get a demotion.

...I think I'm about to start a ranking system. Srsly.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

There is that. ^_^ And since Mandy seems to focus on the most efficient utilisation of effort, it's probably not efficient enough to gain control of the OFM.

She and Erick should have a war of wills.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Hell, last time I was tempbanned on different forums - where I was a mod - I was tempbanned for less. (Though I did volunteer to take my licks first rather than judgement descending on me.)

...Is this the time I banned you along with a certain other person?

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

*nodding* Mutual service sounds quite good to both of us; Kagerou was having ideas for the OFM to be using smaller frigate-class ships for smaller more covert work....which could lead to Tesla and the Normandy?

The Aus'ruf comes equipped with two stealth frigates, the ESF Mobius and the ESF Cipher.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

I have no idea. *shrug* It's possible that the main charecters get a pass due to their elite status, much as how Delta Force and SEAL Team Six/DEVGRU can keep long hair, beards, and don't need to use US-issue fatigues or even weapons, out on the field (both use M4 style carbines due to how vesatile the platform is).

Likely.

Originally Posted by Keroko

The answer to your question is simple: It is nothing canonical at all.

This is one fo those cases where we try to look to deep into things. The reason the grunts Barrier Jackets are alike is simply that it makes drawing and animating the anime easier. If you have to draw 30 completely different Barrier Jackets, you unnecisarely complicate the procedure, not to mention raise the production costs.

If you want a canon explanation though, simply say that those grunts like uniformed Barrier Jackets better. :3

QFT.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Occam's Razor. *grins* I've probably got the quotation wrong, but the colloquial version states, "The simplest explanation is usually the right one, don't go mucking about looking for trouble."

How quickly we forget -_-

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

I think a point I should have made to Skyfall was that Fanfic is stagnating in comparison to OC... on the other hand, there are times when the backlog overwhelms me He's just lucky I'm not Nodsri from Darkscribes. Nodsri, whenever asked to get back on track, goes, "I'm a Malaysian, it's my god-given duty to detail threads. Fuck off, nigga!" :P

Oh Nodsri... I hope none of you have the (dis)pleasure of meeting him.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

The main reason I decided to have the Assault Platoon use a uniform Barrier Jacket was pretty much as above, a way of distinguishing themselves, and for Ivanovich, keeping the Marine heritage of Erusia alive (the green-patterned camo BDUs that the OFM people were wearing in the debriefing room were the Halo 3 fatigues sans body armor). The Air Wing girls get their magic dresses because of morale issues, as well as te fact that the guys look to the sky and pray for panchira. *laughs*

of course.

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

For Kagerou and myself, because we don't really have any overarching plot for the OFM, it's given us freedom to explore and flesh out the unit, with each fic taking on a life of its own, having a place of its own, without us needing to worry about one main connecting thread.

Well, there is one plot I'll make. One day. Eventually. MSLN Alpha/Omega XD.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by dkellis

Advice needed: how can I stop myself from screaming in frustration at Seven Arcs for all the unexplained canon oddities (lol Einherjar) and all the continuity weirdness (lol flying mage rankings)?

Ignore it. Either that, or create your own solutions, which is what I do.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

"Oh Mandy, well you came and you gave without taking...
But I sent you away, oh Mandy~
Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shakin'
and I need you today. Oh, Mandy~"

Give without taking? Mandy? *snrk*

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

The reason why I said that is because as kids, you can't check for visible signs like boobs, and all of their voices have every reason to sound like girls...

...But then again, takes one to know one... >.>

If tha was mean to be an insult, it completely failed.

Originally Posted by Erio

Hey guys, I'm looking for general TSAB information such as military titles (Admiral, Commander, etc). Is there a list of TSAB military titles and positions? If it includes brief descriptions it would be great, as I am not too familiar with military stuff.

Not exactly, but I generally use wikipedia for that stuff. The table at the bottom is particularly handy.

Though I must admit I prefer o use 'Grand Admiral' over 'Fleet Admiral' :3

Originally Posted by Erio

Also, is there an official, or rather, a formal name for the "three brains"?

Hopefully Keroko knows...

The TSAB High Council.

Originally Posted by Erio

Thanks. Yeah, I've been taking my time with the profiles. I've been working on them for quite some time now.

I've read most of the backlog, but I'm still missing the bluecheesium posts... I caught a cold yesterday, so that didnt help much.

Get better first, tackle Bluecheesium later.

Originally Posted by Erio

And to dkellis: That is what differentiates our thread with the Fanfic one. In here, all characters are important, even if they are not related to CCs at all. Over there, however, no NxF = crap.

Hush, let's not start making factions. The mods are twitchy about that the moment. Besides, Satashi's Dating Sim starring Yuuno is anything but NxF, and the most popular fic of the thread.

Originally Posted by krisslanza

*Pokes on in*
This is something posted in fanfiction, but since it is also directly involved in my own little storyline bit and involves a OC... I feel this is another approporiate place to show it and see what you all think.

I didn't write this. My partner in crime did >3
He is handling all the Varista stuff for me while I work on the TSAB

Spoiler for Arc-en-Ciel:

Beauty on the Pyre
An Arc-en-Ciel teaser

Chapter One
Riding on the Winds of Change

There was something unsettling about this woman. The way she simply sighed and stared; gazing out the great glass window into the starlit sky. Of course, her circumstances were far from enviable…but that didn’t mean she had to be a bitch about it. “More wine?” Erika offered with a cheerful smile – as best as she could manage. She was torn, really, between hating the Erika von Cale she knew for being reduced to mollycoddling their honoured guest and relishing the challenge of finding out what made her tick. Erika bit on her thumb, wide eyed in anticipation of such a simple answer. The pause was insufferably pregnant.

“No…thanks.” She spoke! Erika’s eye twitched ever so slightly. For once, the Inquisitor had met her apparent match. With practiced habit, she brushed her dusty blonde hair out of her eyes and made to relax. It was…well, it was hard. You could almost feel the power coursing from her – backed up by a confidence that simply oozed from every pore in her body. Even here, effectively a prisoner like this woman was, and surrounded by the most impressive security features known to the Emperor she remained undaunted.

To tell the honest truth, Erika did not feel entirely safe. Years of instinct were screaming at her to run or fight or something! Anything but sit here and sip expensive drinks (though, Erika mused, the red was particularly fine). She licked her lips and poured herself another glass, raising it to her mouth. Fate Testarossa…what a unique, talented, arrogant, prideful little minx she was. Erika smiled to herself. She hated her.

*Slinks off to class*

I'll comment on this in the fanfic thread to help it along.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Erio

Mmm, secrets.

Originally Posted by Erio

I find it interesting that you are STILL having so many parties after the holidays.

When you have a dad who's a newly promoted one-star general, who has had MANY friends in the various districts and regions he's headed over the years, ranging from fellow police officers to media personnel to mayors, coupled with the usual Pinoy gratitude, and you've got a recipe for LOTS of thanksgiving parties in the next few weeks

Originally Posted by krisslanza

*Pokes on in*
This is something posted in fanfiction, but since it is also directly involved in my own little storyline bit and involves a OC... I feel this is another approporiate place to show it and see what you all think.

I didn't write this. My partner in crime did >3
He is handling all the Varista stuff for me while I work on the TSAB

Spoiler for Arc-en-Ciel:

Beauty on the Pyre
An Arc-en-Ciel teaser

Chapter One
Riding on the Winds of Change

There was something unsettling about this woman. The way she simply sighed and stared; gazing out the great glass window into the starlit sky. Of course, her circumstances were far from enviable…but that didn’t mean she had to be a bitch about it. “More wine?” Erika offered with a cheerful smile – as best as she could manage. She was torn, really, between hating the Erika von Cale she knew for being reduced to mollycoddling their honoured guest and relishing the challenge of finding out what made her tick. Erika bit on her thumb, wide eyed in anticipation of such a simple answer. The pause was insufferably pregnant.

“No…thanks.” She spoke! Erika’s eye twitched ever so slightly. For once, the Inquisitor had met her apparent match. With practiced habit, she brushed her dusty blonde hair out of her eyes and made to relax. It was…well, it was hard. You could almost feel the power coursing from her – backed up by a confidence that simply oozed from every pore in her body. Even here, effectively a prisoner like this woman was, and surrounded by the most impressive security features known to the Emperor she remained undaunted.

To tell the honest truth, Erika did not feel entirely safe. Years of instinct were screaming at her to run or fight or something! Anything but sit here and sip expensive drinks (though, Erika mused, the red was particularly fine). She licked her lips and poured herself another glass, raising it to her mouth. Fate Testarossa…what a unique, talented, arrogant, prideful little minx she was. Erika smiled to herself. She hated her.

*Slinks off to class*

Eeeeeeh... sounds like a one-sided rivalry's coming up between Erika and an apparently clueless Fate?

[Klashikari]

Another "not so nice moderator" message, but nevetherless.

I would like to remind you all (none is really "targeted" here) that this is the Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion, and therefore, please stay on topic. I think we were very clear on that matter about the Fanfic thread, and spreading/fleshing out the matter is out of question, be it on the said thread or elsewhere.

Furthermore, It would be actually nice if this thread isn't used as a chat. We already know there are already habits and the like in this thread, so nothing is condemned. But please limit the off topic answers and such, and please stay on the "character creation" topic.

If this simple request is disregarded, I will be forced to lock this thread as well.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Kha

OK I'll go for the more standard "the woman I can never have" storyline typical of blue-blood tragics.

No, no, I'm not against it. It's just that... from the descriptions alone, it already sounds pretty , I wonder how much crack-fictious it'll be in writing.

Originally Posted by Kha

Well I... Are we talking about the same thing here? I was thinking F/HA.

I was thinking Berserk.

Here's an awesome quote from GameFaqs about Berserk.

Berserk - the only manga where when someone asks about horse rape, its fans reply with "Which one?"

Originally Posted by Kha

EGAD! IT'S MR. OLD MUSCLES!!!

Lionel was a completely original OC grunt leader attached to Riot 6 by orders of le General to keep an eye on Hayate, but he is soon won over by Hayate's ideals and team.

But... If you could enlightening me which Lionel are you talking about (do you really mean the above commander? ), I could accomodate. So far, the only old man to appear is Charlie, one of the new Cleric-knights spawned from Forsaken crack.

I was thinking Admiral Leone, you know, the one bald, long beard, carrying a stick... looking like a cross between Master Roshi and Genryusai...

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Well, you're right, it's definitely not impressive.

But it could be catchy over time... Like, Jinn's "Kaidoku Funou"

... Probably not.

Definitely not.

And hey, I must be one of the very few who liked Funou from the start. I'll admit it was mildly grating, but there something catchy and addictive about it, the first day I got the rip, I was already looping over 20 times.

The OP animation sucked balls though, compared to the more artistic 2nd and 3rd, hell even 1st.

Originally Posted by Ryand-Smith

I was starting on the next part of my story, and possibly introducing some other OCs, but well, I just want to see what you fellows think about this

Spoiler for Part 3, Preview: Attack of the Winged Angels!:

missing.

You know, this made me wonder just how versatile or limited Jail's IEs were. Considering that despite being different, they have similar workings, (( didn't Subaru use her CC source inside the Cradle? )), makes one wonder how interlinked the systems are anyway...

Originally Posted by Kagerou

Another fun fact: If I recall correctly, the Eva fandom invented that term .

EVA? Warm and fuzzy?

Doesn't compute.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Originally Posted by Kagerou

In other news, I haven't really been around a lot. I've been playing a lot of Mass Effect...and holy god, the ideas it's giving me for the OFM are quite scary.

4 months... 4 more months...

Originally Posted by Kagerou

I aww'd.

I'm gonna go ahead and post a chunk of the final arc of Sorairo Days because the next part's gonna be quite big...

Spoiler for The Liberation of Belzac, Part One:

Entropy Through Order: Case Files of the Order of Freelance Mages
Third Order: Sorairo Days
-- Final Arc, Part One: The Liberation of Belzac
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

OFM gets cooler by the word.

Nice to see a great balance in this. Love the dere-dere part, along with the briefing.

Mind telling what's Eurasia again?

Originally Posted by krisslanza

The Wikipedia dumbfounds me. How can the TSAB front line infantry be A rank soldiers!? O_o
They're too puny to be A rank. If that is A rank Rune is screwed at B+ and No.47 is even worse at C.

Depending what you define frontline, perhaps.

Safe to say, probably 90% of all Ground Forces are D~C, another 8% B~AA, and very very few Zest-class. Most upper-tiers would've probably went for a better career at Air/Navy.

Air and Navy are far more elite.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Which is bull, because the booklets state that B-rank is for many mages an 'unpassable wall'

D to C is the average of Armed Forces. Heck, I'll quote the booklet while I'm at it:

Well, the armed forces are huge in the bulk. Sadly, we're not shown the scale and size of the Reds and Blues in comparison to the Browns.

Very sweet as well. Explosive water-balloons, lol.

Originally Posted by dkellis

To be honest, I'm more concerned with a specific question, which is: what is the minimum mage rank needed for the mage to be able to fly and fight effectively?

In the first episode of StrikerS, based on what I assume the layout of the B-rank exam to be like, a flight-capable mage would have an easier time of it, but I don't know if the test is itself designed for flight capability or not, and whether Subaru and Teana just made do with their non-flying selves.

Well, despite being just A-Synthetic, Yuuno had solid mastery of flight+ defensive combat. Seems to be an issue of talent as well in some degrees... Those who aren't latently A to begin with seems like they'll have trouble coping with the Air Force training. Can't be just an issue of training if that's what worried Nanoha/Teana regarding flight-training right away.

There are Ground and Air examinations. Subaru and Teana took those, and are completely devoid of the necessity to fly.

Originally Posted by dkellis

I hope that at least some of those Enforcers are A+, since that's what my OC Nova's backstory is like: she was one of those sent against Precia, and the damage from the battle burned out her Linker Core.

I'm justfiying it by thinking that considering how powerful Precia is and how dangerous she is known to be, they'll be sending the best of the best against her. This means that anyone below A rank would probably not be sent out, since it's not likely that they'd survive the encounter.

Last I recall, ark mentioned that in the novel or something, the Enforcers sent to counter Precia were a mixtures of B and A ranks. I suppose several A+ could be as well, considering they weren't really effective anyway.

Originally Posted by dkellis

A question: in StrikerS, Regius Gaiz was placing a lot of hope in the Einherjar.

I may have missed it due to not paying attention, but is the Einherjar? What does it do? I remember seeing what looked like a building being attacked by the Numbers, but that's about it.

Surface to Air Cannon, most likely..

It was probably made in mind to possess destructive power capable to denounce the need for nukers like Hayate, along with the versatility to shoot effectively in the sky.

Originally Posted by dkellis

I was hoping for something which made more sense, especially after I looked up "einherjar" and found out that it meant the half of the souls of the warrior dead which went on to fight for Odin, which brought to mind images of Starcraft Protoss Dragoons.

Then again, Protoss Dragoons aren't really dragoons either.

Durandal wasn't really a sword either.

It's just for namings sake. Though the foreshadowing really destroyed its feel upon introduction.

Originally Posted by dkellis

Giant cannons in the middle of a desert seems kind of pointless, especially with Regius's confidence in its abilities. Regius may have been a (censored), but I'm thinking one does not get to be General without having at least some common sense.

Maybe there's some other capability we've not seen.

I was under the impression that the cannon works only as a LEGAL developed weapon in use during need for heavy-hitters. His real intentions along with his true goal for the Ground Forces Project was implementing Cyborgs into them, allowing his own brand of 'elite mages', even more so if the tech to create them which was SUPPOSED to be raided by them can be proven to be effective and efficient.

Originally Posted by dkellis

The Einherjar, as it is, just makes no military sense. I'm almost convinced that there's some hidden capability, because otherwise all we see is that it's an immobile brute-force cannon that is inadequately-defended against a small strike force of powerful individuals, which the General knows exists and may be antagonistic, especially if its sole purpose was to shoot down the Cradle, which is populated by Scaglietti and his Numbers.

Regius, Jail and the TSAB High Council were in cahoots together before Jail backstabbed them.

The Cyborgs were probably intended to be developed FOR the Ground Forces, on paper. And behind the scenes, further Artificial Mage research for the sake of creating the Vessel/finding the Cradle.

Which Jail succeeded in doing, though one of them not directly. Only that he didn't do it for their sake, he did it for his.

Originally Posted by dkellis

Further question: do we know under what circumstances a mage can go around wearing their unique Barrier Jackets, and when they have to wear what looks like a uniform?

For example, uniforms: the random grunts on the scene during the airport fire in StrikerS episode 2 (including the reinforcements at the end, the flying ones), or perhaps the two backup NPCs with Vita in episode 26. Or even the Enforcers sent to capture Precia in the first season.

Non-uniforms: every main character.

It just seems a bit arbitrary.

Probably a deal of convenience.

Though I do find it strange a little that Vita DOES wear her Air Force vest as well, during missions, during the early StrikerS episode. And one time during a spar with Signum. Other times is her BJ.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I like to think that a boss-fight encounter with Precia, is like fighting Murmur in Shadow Labyrinth... She's running on 40% health, and has random outbursts that deal massive AOE damage...

Oh yeah, she hardly/cant move as well.

Feels like a recurring issue of sorts. Precia was never at her prime's best, the whole Reinforce battle, while solid, was clearly not really "ALL-OUT" either, Zest's body was deteriorating and despite being bested by Cinque once, he clearly wasn't his full-power, and Vivio... was well...MAMA!!!!!! That, and the battle just downright sucked.

Originally Posted by Erio

Also, is there an official, or rather, a formal name for the "three brains"?

TSA High Council.

Though they clearly have influence, we don't really know HOW much direct influence they hold anymore in TSAB politics. Heck, it's mentioned that the 3 Legendary Admirals don't really hold that much power anymore, despite still retaining their honorary positions.

[Estavali]

Looks like the OC thread is finally back in business! Good, good...

Some random backlog breaking....

Originally Posted by Tormenk

If canon doesn't do it, fanon may. When was the last time something GAR was wrote about them anyway.

Hmm..

Spoiler for 5 mins of crack:

"I may not be able to even defend myself against you now but I'll protect them, both Nanoha and Vivio with every fiber of my being till my last breath!"

"Draw your last breath then. "

"Black Impact."

Good GAR is hard to come up with but this is workable with the plan indeed...

Back to more Heroes V for now.

I hope you won't mind me saying... but I actually loled when I read this . It seemed quite... humorous, when translated to my mind.

Just imagine this in 4koma format....

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I thought I should share this with you guys as well.

I found it by accident, but this seems to be a compilation of the THREE HUNDRED BEST ANIME OPENING AND ENDING EVER.

There are some really old stuff in here, as well as the latest from last year. The ranks are base on a popularity vote.

("Sorairo Days" was ranked 74....)

Spoiler for Length:

PART 1/3

PART 2/3

PART 3/3

The #1 caught me by surprise, to be honest .

And I'm surprised people could still remember and love those really old ones .

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Far too simple. I'm going to to use Katrina to stir things up between Yuuno and Nanoha.

Something like this..

Spoiler for 5 mins of premediated crack:

"Nanoha?" Something was wrong with her today. Too straightforward. And something else Yuuno couldn't place.

"I have a present for you Yuuno." So saying, Yuuno found suddenly his lips very occupied.

As swiftly as it was initiated the kiss stopped.

"N-anoha..what was that about?" The young man was completely dazed by her unexplained action.

No reply came. Instead she slid behind him and placed her lips next to Yuuno's ear, their cheeks grazing each other.

"I just feel like a different person today. Or do you not like it?" She whispered into his ear.

Before he had a chance to reply, Yuuno was wrapped up in the sensation of having his earlobe being gently nibbled, surrendering as his senses was turned into mush by her soft lips.

Is it just me, or is Katrina messing around with illusions again?




On Barrier Jackets, I wonder if they are actually device-based, though Season one and Nanoha herself could probably prove me wrong.

My take is that the device itself has a original blueprint for the Barrier Jacket, that is later modified to better suit the magus. Whether this modification comes from the device or the magus (or from both after a good long talk) is imho hard to say. I would believe that modifications would come from the device first if the magus doesn't have the know-how or simply doesn't know what to improve on first (which should especially be the case of IDs). Once the magus gets used to it, s/he could gradually take over or cooperate with the device for the subsequent fine-tunings.

Anyway, the talk about Einherjar has just given me a idea for a new spell for Hayate:

Spoiler for The Einherjar System:

Einherjar System

A special spell that is believed to be the basis of the Guardian Knights System. Hayate creates a copy of anyone she desires within the Tome of the Night Sky with a detailed scan of his/her Linker Core. The scan need not be completed at one go; in fact this process believed to work better if the copy is built up at a gradual pace. Once completed, the copy will be infinitely linked to the original and any changes will be updated after Hayate's approval (this is to prevent the copy from suffering from any detrimentive developments). The copy thus allows her to keep track of the original's condition in addition to its intented use. The copy will remain inactive within the Tome until either of these two conditions are met: Hayate deletes the copy and erases the link, or the original dies, which is when the Einherjar System's true purpose comes into play.

As the original's demise is detected by the Tome (and Hayate) via the link to the copy, the copy aka the Einherjar will activate. Finalising all necessary updates and tuning, the Einherjar will awaken as a new and powerful addition to Hayate's personal guard. Abilities and character would usually be similar to the original at his/her peak, and s/her will be unquestionably bond to Hayate's will. Whether the Einherjar will retain any of the original's memories is at Hayate's discretion. An important note is that since the Einharjar is essentially a creation of the Tome, it is argued that Hayate should also be able to modify the Einherjar's character as well, though most of the time she prefers to keep them the way they are ("It adds a sense of nostagia... and takes some of the loneliness and pain away too").

As mentioned the Guardian Knights System is believed to have sprung forth from the Einherjar System (this also leads one to wonder if the Wolkenritter were once human themselves, or rather, copies based on actual humans that the preceeding Meisters knew). While similar to the Doppleganger spell, the definititive difference is that the Doppleganger will only exist so as long the original is still alive, while the Einherjar will only activate when the original dies.

This idea is loosely based on my understanding about Hayate's canon RS 蒐集行使, which I believe is something like the Tome's ability to collect and re-create other spells.

I have this thought... that Hayate might have been secretly creating Einherjars of her more powerful friends and companions under the pretense of sekuhara....

Anyway, now that I'm at it, I might as well drag the spell-list I working on for her out. As usual, virtually everything has the "Work forever in progress" sign on and some, especially the canon ones, don't even have a description .

But nonetheless, for your reading pleasure (or displeasure. And no, I am not responsible for any eyes running off in horror ):

Spoiler for Hayate's spell-list for Twilight's Wind:

Offensive (Shooting)

Blutiger Dolch

~ placeholder ~

Silberkugel (Silver Bullet)

Rank: AA
Damage: A+
Speed: A+
Range: B
Casting speed: Fast

Silberkugel is Hayate's version of Fate's Plasma Lancer, with a twist. Though normally lacking the former's power and ability to turn at command, Silberkugel has an anti-magic property that allows it to destroy magical defenses easily. This includes dispelling Barrier Jackets/Knight Armor. A direct hit without any protection will even damage the target's Linker Core as well. While this spell works well against magi, it is devastating towards magical beings like familiars and other magical constructs.

Silberkugel can be used as the main attacking spell or to create an opening (breaking through magical defenses is very power-consuming for the defending magus, and most are unable to react fast enough after having their defenses breached) before following up with more Silberkugeln or other spells. Hayate can fire up to 4 Silberkugeln with each volley.

Gand

Gand is commonly used for self-defense. Hayate fires orbs of hazy darkness from her forefinger, like a make-shift pistol. Casting is instant and the projectile is slightly faster than a bullet. Rapid fire is possible. Though non-lethal, Gand can cause severe dark burns and even paralysis with more concentrated force.

Freischütz

~ This spell is currently under re-construction. But I should expect it to stay somewhat similar to the original. ~

Offensive (Bombardment)

Mistilteinn

~ placeholder ~

Hræsvelgr

~ placeholder ~

Ragnarök

~ placeholder ~

Ragnarök: Key to the New Dawn

~ placeholder, but basically an upgrade of the original Ragnarök, if there is a need for an upgrade in the first place, that is ~


Offensive (AoE)

Dark Void

A powerful Dark Magick that traps the target's consciousness in nightmares, while depleting his/her lifeforce and corroding his/her physical body. As Dark Void is a manifestation of negative energy, it is capable of absorbing and negating most other forms of magic which uses positive energy. This spell can be used for capture, defense (though only briefly) and combat purposes. As a defense spell, it works like a attack absorbing forcefield, though the mana-drain makes it impossible to maintain more than a couple of minutes at one go. While this can be used also as a projectile spell, a much more powerful AoE version can also be employed at the expanse of a much higher casting time and mana drain.

*Hayate's Dark Void was inspired by Darkrai's own version (shown from 01:26 ~ 02:20):

Spoiler:

Defensive

Panzerschild

Rank: B
Defence: A
Casting speed: Instant

An Ancient Belkan style shield-type defensive spell that has its equivalent in the Midchildan Round Shield. A defense using a rebounding effect, Panzerschild is the fundamental form for Belkan magic defenses. As such, this spell is common and popular amongst Belkan Clerics and Knights, with slight variations.

Svalinn (Incomplete)

Rank: A
Defence: A
Casting speed: Instant

Hayate's personal Barrier-type defence spell. Highly effective against purely magical attacks.

Tanz der Leuchtkäfer (Dance of the Fireflies)

Rank: B
Damage: C+ (Individual)
Speed: A+
Range: 200m
Manuvuerability: A
Casting speed: Very fast

Tanz der Leuchtkäfer is one of Hayate's most visually impressive spells. Her wings shines with a soft glow which swiftly flares up brilliantly. Then, a bright flash! A sharp hiss, and dozens of small, silvery lights burst forth streaming in furious pursuit of the incoming enemy.

(Creator's note: Those who have seen how FFIX's Alexander defeat Bahamut should get the idea.)

This spell, or rather self-defense ability, was developed as a desperate measure against enemies that managed to get too close for comfort, especially during a long casting or if Hayate is maintaining another spell. Though individual damage is fairly low, the Leuchtkäfer has a cold effect attached that helps to slow incoming attackers. Generally, it is still enough to stop or turn back hostile approachers. But even so, the Tanz is not meant to bring down the opponent, but more to harass, soften and surprise the enemy and buy time for a more effective counterattack.


Capture

Gleipnir (Re-constructing)

Rank: A+
Range: 100m
Casting speed: Medium

Hayate's version of Struggle Bind. In addition to being a magical "ground", it's also infamous for reducing the target(s)' strength to zero, rendering them helpless. Reputed to be unbreakable amongst known binding spells (though not due to overwhelming strength).

Wilde Jagd (Wild Hunt)

Rank: AAA
Speed: A+
Range: 100m (starting position)
Manuvuerability: AAA
Casting speed: Medium

The Wilde Jagd is an intelligent track-and-capture spell developed from the Blutiger Dolch, influenced by the Logru Familiar System. Hayate will set a target(s) and then release them in a pack comprising of 12 cloaked Jagdhunde. The Wilde Jagd will then disperse and automatically comb the area, using active sonar and scent tracking to sniff out their quarry. Any Jagdhund that discovers the target will transmit the location and other details back to Hayate, who reviews the situation via a hologram screen and decides on the next course of action. If she chooses to take it down, the Jagdhunde will break cover and pursue the prey (they can't maintain cloak in high speed). Their hunting pattern resembles that of wolves, with the pack closing in from all directions and working seamlessly together for the hunt. Their speed, though pale in contrast to Blutiger Dolch, still rivals that of Fate's Plasma Lancers, and with Sleipnir, can easily outchase her in Sonic Form (whether this too applies for her Sonic Drive is yet to be tested). The first one that hits will cast a Gleipnir over the prey and the subsequent two or three will freeze it within a Frierenfesseln (each hit speeds up the spell's formation). Any leftovers will re-cloak and go on stand-by.

Wilde Jagd is one of Hayate's favourites due to its persistancy and flexibility. Unlike Blutiger Dolch, she and Rein still retains control over the Jagdhunde after they are released. This allows them to issue any necessary on-the-spot commands according to the situation. Also, the Jagdhunde feedback data periodically during the hunt as well as upon capturing the target. If the prey that they are pursuing is actually a decoy/illusion, the remaining Jagdhunde will learn from the mistake and avoid any other targets that exhibits the same properties as the decoy/illusion.

Appraisals of the Wilde Jagd range from seriously annoying to dangerous. The Jagdhunde's infamous persistancy, ability to "sniff" out even most stealth targets and the fact that they themselves can cloak when not travelling at a high-speed, makes them very difficult to hide and escape from, and their learning ability prevents them from repeating mistakes. The Wilde Jagd can also be assisted by other spells, such as its parent spell Blutiger Dolch or Silberkugel.

The Wilde Jagd has one major weakness though. The Jagdhunde must hit the prey physically in order to bring it down. As it is not an offensive spell, it cannot penetrate obstacles and can be kept at bay with (ideally) barriers or anything that prevents it from reaching its target. Still, this doesn't stop them from surrounding the game in wait for a chance to close in for the kill.

Trivia 1: Hayate sometimes jokes that Zafira is the inspiration behind the Wilde Jagd, often earning a somewhat mournful silence from the latter (as a wolf, he does not like being called a dog or hound).

Trivia 2: The Frierenfesseln is deemed excessive by some, but Hayate explains that should the target be caught in mid air, the Frierenfesseln can at least try to protect him/her from the impact falling from such a high place. Though she does admit that most develop acrophobia after such an experience.

Support

Bind Break

~ placeholder ~

Sleipnir

~ placeholder, but please note that this is NOT the same Sleipnir used by Rein Eins ~

Draupnir (Needs expansion)

Draupnir is a reinforcement spell that can enhance power output to a maximum of 9x. When activated, rings of magical arrays will appear around the area that desires reinforcement. Each ring will boost the output up one level, with nine as the maximum limit.

Einherjar System

A special spell that is believed to be the basis of the Guardian Knights System. Hayate creates a copy of anyone she desires within the Tome of the Night Sky with a detailed scan of his/her Linker Core. The scan need not be completed at one go; in fact this process believed to work better if the copy is built up at a gradual pace. Once completed, the copy will be infinitely linked to the original and any changes will be updated after Hayate's approval (this is to prevent the copy from suffering from any detrimentive developments). The copy thus allows her to keep track of the original's condition in addition to its intented use. The copy will remain inactive within the Tome until either of these two conditions are met: Hayate deletes the copy and erases the link, or the original dies, which is when the Einherjar System's true purpose comes into play.

As the original's demise is detected by the Tome (and Hayate) via the link to the copy, the copy aka the Einherjar will activate. Finalising all necessary updates and tuning, the Einherjar will awaken as a new and powerful addition to Hayate's personal guard. Abilities and character would usually be similar to the original at his/her peak, and s/her will be unquestionably bond to Hayate's will. Whether the Einherjar will retain any of the original's memories is at Hayate's discretion. An important note is that since the Einharjar is essentially a creation of the Tome, it is argued that Hayate should also be able to modify the Einherjar's character as well, though most of the time she prefers to keep them the way they are ("It adds a sense of nostagia... and takes some of the lonliness and pain away too," she would say with seeming nonchalance).

As mentioned the Guardian Knights System is believed to have sprung forth from the Einherjar System (this also leads one to wonder if the Wolkenritter were once human themselves, or rather, copies based on actual humans that the preceeding Meisters knew). While similar to the Doppleganger spell, the definititive difference is that the Doppleganger will only exist so as long the original is still alive, while the Einherjar will only activate when the original dies.


More to come...?

Eh... Basically my plan is to give Hayate a Norse theme, especially one based on Odin, one of the darker gods and a powerful sorcerer himself. Upcoming plans would include inpromptu familiars Huginn and Muninn that serves as scouts and sentinels, maybe write Gungnir in somehow and perhaps even Hliðskjálf as well (now that last bit seems quite interesting, hmm....)

If you ask me though, personally I think Wilde Jagd is too haxxed. The problem is that, well... that happens to be my favorite as well, and I'm reluctant to reduce it to something lesser....

Somebody please hit me with the Hammer .