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Japan's attempt to Aegis the missile may not seem like a good idea, though it is not known for NK to have submarines to torpedo the ship, but their SOB (Special Operations Branch, and yes, pun intended) might hijack the ship like how USS Pueblo is done. North Korea's army is a one time use wildcard, can be very damaging, but lasts for only a while. Damage is certainly massive to a scale. It is a pity quite a number of the Coalition signed the NNPT. Otherwise the problem could have been solved by a couple of Tridents in Pyongyang.
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2009-03-10, 12:55 | Link #1782 |
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Wonder anyone has posted this: Another murder case related to manga
TAIPEI (Taiwan News) – A horrific random killing happened in Taipei shocks Taiwan society on Monday, leaving one dead and two injured. The arrested suspect claimed imitating the plot of a Japanese manga to perform the stabbing in order to “get rid of his bad luck”. The 35-year-old jobless Huang Fu-kang killed landlord Jian Tian-chi, 51, and wounded his wife and son with advanced planning. Huang said he browsed randomly on apartment rental website to search for victims. Huang made an appointment with Jian in his empty house, pretending to show interest in the apartment. During the tour, Huang suddenly hammered Jian to death and abandoned the body in the bathtub. Discovering Jian’s home address in his pocket, Huang walked to his nearby residence, continuing the slashing upon seeing Jian’s wife Yu Jui-ying and son Jian Yu-lun. While Yu fainted in the living room, the younger Jian, drenched in blood, stormed out for help. As neighbors screamed over the bloody scene, Huang fled from the spot on motorcycle. Yu was critically wounded and her son slightly injured when they were sent to the hospital. Coincidentally, Huang went to the same hospital for treatment on the left index finger injured during the killing and was arrested by the police after being identified by the junior Jian. Huang confessed that he had been having bad luck since he lost NT$5 million in a failed business five years ago. He was made redundant for one year and unable to find a new job. Huang then remembered reading a story in a manga, saying that random killing can expel bad luck and nightmares. Huang, a resident of Puli, Nantou County, made a list of Taipei landlords wishing to rent out apartments beforehand and came to the northern city a few days ago. He said Jian was the first person taking his call. Huang was held into custody for suspicion of murder by Shihlin Prosecutors’ Office last night. by Taiwan News, Staff Writer Source: http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/new...s=news_Society I wonder what is the manga that he has been reading?!? more update: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...es-gunnm-manga Last edited by Ja-Y-Ce; 2009-03-10 at 13:05. |
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2009-03-10, 14:02 | Link #1784 |
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North Korea could stand a decent chance in a war. An extremist with little to loose and a decent place to hide can very difficult to fight. In fact my guess is that N.K. plan during a war would be to stay put in it's own territory and try to capture as many POW as they can. They don't have to beat any one in order to get a favorable out come during a war. All they have to do is last long enough for the U.N. to step in and try to guilty trip Japan and S.K. into a peace treaty.
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2009-03-10, 14:28 | Link #1785 | |
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The only things I can be sure of is that the "Axis of Evil" to Bush Jr. has slightly changed. Instead of Iraq, Iran, and North Korea being America's top 3 enemy nations. The Obama Administration's top 3 enemies would be Iran, North Korea, and China. Unlike Bush Jr., Obama certainly wouldn't call them something ridiculous like the "Axis of Evil" as the fact it is pointless to do so.
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2009-03-10, 14:39 | Link #1787 | ||
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In the event of war, the North needs to roll the dice and try to get a repeat of the opening stages of the war in the 50s. Of course the military situation isn't nearly as good for them as it was back then and they still lose if the US gets involved, and the US will get involved from the very start. Quote:
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2009-03-11, 07:58 | Link #1788 | |
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South may be better armed and trained, but they have a smaller army, approximately 400,000 troops less. One fearful thing is that the entire of Korea might turn into another Vietnam War if an invasion occurs. I don't think North Korea is as weak as Afghanistan or Iraq, but definitely not as strong as its fellow "rogue state" Iran. What really puzzles me is that why would North Korea want a satellite despite its modern communications network being limited to Pyongyang only? Highly likely it would be an excuse to build a LRM.
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Another is that there will mass defections form the NK army, a majority of the grunts of the army are made of peasants who join the army not for patrotic reason but to get food in the stomach. And recently the NK government don't even have enough food to feed its own army. before anyone says the Chinese will help, they won't the Chinese economy is too entwine with the world economy. If NK was stupid enough to fire the first shot there will be no Chinese help. Quote:
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2009-03-11, 12:40 | Link #1791 | |
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Once again, highly unlikely, but not completely impossible.
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2009-03-11, 13:04 | Link #1792 | |
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2009-03-11, 13:52 | Link #1793 | |
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2009-03-11, 19:44 | Link #1794 | |
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Part of what the North has been doing for the last 50 years is digging all kinds of fortifications and tunnels not just at the DMZ, but in the WHOLE COUNTRY. They even put weapons factories and airbases underground. And being by far the most militarized nation on earth, 5 million of the 23 million people who live in NK are either in the main army or some sort of militia, trained to hide in the mountains and tunnels and kill Americans and Southern "puppets" if war breaks out. [/i]5 million.[/i] Saddam's army had maybe a million men in 2003, and look at the problems we have there. Furthermore, All North Koreans have been isolated from the outside world from 50 years, and being indoctrinated for that amount of time, will fight to the death. Food isn't really such a big issue when your populace is (sadly) already used to famines, and the army has rations tucked away under mountains of solid rock. Iraq is bad? The US Army will lose many tens of thousands of men trying to conquer North Korea, not to mention facing the possibility of nuclear weapons. Also why wouldn't China defend North Korea? You think they're the happy, US-friendly capitalist nation the media makes them out to be? China's only acting this way since there's no war in Asia right now. Once the map starts looking like a Risk board, China will switch it's modus operandi faster than you can say "deficit." They will do anything within reason to make sure South Korea stays South Korea. North Korea is their only ally in Asia left. Everyone else are just trading partners. If North Korea is gone, China will be entirely surrounded by US bases, and there will be no one left in East Asia to attract the eyes of human rights people. By keeping North Korea around, China can sit at the 6-party talks and say that they are "concerned about Korean nukes just like everyone else is." North Korea makes China more normal, so China wants to keep things the way they are. In any case, if China even so much as supplies North Korea with food/oil/weapons during a possible Second Korean War, there will be no way for the US and SK to win. With Chinese help (which is probable), the North's 5-million-man militia/army can just stay in their caves and bunkers for decades until the invaders leave. |
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2009-03-11, 20:44 | Link #1796 |
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I have to agree with Xellos here, the N. Korean won't be as loyal as you'd expect from this indoctrination. If NK is indeed stupid enough to fire the first shot China will smile and prepare to get some nice mountainous lands.
Also the reason why the USA is losing in Iraq is IMO, because they're not carpet bombing every single building and gassing every hole. Remember they're still trying to front the Iraq war as a great liberating "insertion" which is much more different than "Let's destroy those baddies" the NK don't have hostages, they have targets, they have people who once they know that bombs will come their way will high tail it to wherever they can get to. The US may be reluctant to bomb everything, but I'm sure that China as you've stated wouldn't, since of their lack of human rights.
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2009-03-11, 21:02 | Link #1797 |
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lol, the NK military is not like the Taliban, for one most older generation north koreans actually just want to see their loved ones across the border, the division between north and south really split families apart, but the difference between Hamas/Taliban is one their philosphy is based on one of faith where as the conscripts of the NK army are primarily starving farmers, religous zeal is hard to combat, just look at Afghanistan. After what happened in Vietnam and with the current economic situation where the chinese depend on the imports to improve infrastructure and exports to generate wealth, their is probably no chance if NKs start a war for chinese intervention on behalf of the NKs. Plus saving north korea serves no purpose, if the Nks break the peace, if there is american/south korean aggression then china will have to fight to protect its borders but in any other case I don't see the chinese being all that willing to help.
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Putting airbases underground seems like it'd be kind of a bad idea though, so I'll assume you mean put the hangers underground. The runways kind of need to not be underground after all. Not that it matters. Unless they have some UFOs hidden away, their mig-21s and the few newer aircraft in their inventory are going to die if the leave their underground hangers, assuming their runways aren't clusterbomb magnets and they can get off the ground in the first place. Quote:
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2009-03-11, 22:28 | Link #1799 |
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Technology has really changed since the previous Korean and Vietnam wars, we cannot forget this. you simply cannot use strategies from decades past and expect them to work. We have ground penetrating radar, bunker buster bombs, stealth bombers. heck we even have anti missile technology.
not to mention this crazy shit in the works. http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/0...-balls-of.html
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2009-03-11, 22:39 | Link #1800 |
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Err... anti missle defense that has the slim margins of actually working. Anti missile defense will only work if we ever get lazer type weapons to work. But thats just nit picking. I mean really even if you know the trajectory of a missile it is very hard to acurately to shoot it down, not to mention if it was the nuclear variety the fallout radiation would be even worse, hence the stoppage of atmospheric atomic bomb testing. Plus tomhawk missles any one? we may not have missile command systems but for an offensive the US could easily take out a majority of those troops from airstrikes and tacitical naval bombardment.
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