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ganbaru · 2011-07-05, 22:33

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Except that his death costs the *community* a fair sum of money. That's the problem here... no one is really an island. Their actions or inactions impact the people around them. There's always been a balance between individual freedom and the well-being of the community.

My mother and her community a few years ago had to fight a local idiot that wanted to make his property a toxic waste dump. Quite likely would have poisoned the water supply.

True, it isn't like he would simply stop to exist, still the outcome would had been worse is someone else had been killed by his action insted of him alone.

Anh_Minh · 2011-07-06, 15:08

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Except that his death costs the *community* a fair sum of money.

How so? You've got to die sometime, and as far deaths go, bike accident's pretty cheap. Cheaper than a disease lingering for years.

JMvS · 2011-07-06, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

How so? You've got to die sometime, and as far deaths go, bike accident's pretty cheap. Cheaper than a disease lingering for years.

You are not taking into account all what it costs in an advanced society to "produce" an adult citizen.

Vexx · 2011-07-06, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

How so? You've got to die sometime, and as far deaths go, bike accident's pretty cheap. Cheaper than a disease lingering for years.

Cost of first response, cost of uninsured ER, cost of fire/police, cost to other people if accident involved others. Insurance rates affected by accident rates. Emotional trauma - family, friends, witnesses.

Endless Soul · 2011-07-06, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Cost of first response, cost of uninsured ER, cost of fire/police, cost to other people if accident involved others. Insurance rates affected by accident rates. Emotional trauma - family, friends, witnesses.

Also add any damage to public property such as guardrails.

Ithekro · 2011-07-06, 22:51

Cost of new laws enacted to prevent stupidity.

Anh_Minh · 2011-07-07, 01:28

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Originally Posted by JMvS

You are not taking into account all what it costs in an advanced society to "produce" an adult citizen.

I am. But as I said, you've got to die sometime, it's just a matter of when. And at 55 is way better than just out of college. Just into retirement would be best, but 55 isn't bad. Think of all the conditions age brings on he'll never have to deal with.

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Cost of first response, cost of uninsured ER, cost of fire/police, cost to other people if accident involved others. Insurance rates affected by accident rates. Emotional trauma - family, friends, witnesses.

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Originally Posted by Endless Soul

Also add any damage to public property such as guardrails.

Those are fair enough, but subtract all the money he'd have cost by aging. I was going to say that maybe it's different for you since your retirement funds and healthcare insurance have less government in them, but if you want to count insurance rate it's irrelevant. And again, there's the cost of his evenrual death.

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Cost of new laws enacted to prevent stupidity.

What new laws? The helmet law obviously didn't save him, so what are they going to do? And how responsible for the stupidity of others should we hold him?

Vexx · 2011-07-07, 02:29

My band director used to say "Every rule exists because at some point, someone did something idiotic and screwed it up for the rest of us".

ganbaru · 2011-07-07, 05:32

Duped: Big Californian gold nugget actually Aussie
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-06-19-16-18

Woman charged with putting antifreeze in smoothie
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-06-19-33-50

Vexx · 2011-07-07, 15:49

Nearly 4000 families disintegrate per day in China!!!

(yeah, the article is about divorce but the headline reads like we've got little Martin Martians running around with their A-1 Disintegration Beam guns)

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...2/7432897.html

synaesthetic · 2011-07-07, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Nearly 4000 families disintegrate per day in China!!!

(yeah, the article is about divorce but the headline reads like we've got little Martin Martians running around with their A-1 Disintegration Beam guns)

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...2/7432897.html

ganbaru · 2011-07-07, 16:01

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Nearly 4000 families disintegrate per day in China!!!

(yeah, the article is about divorce but the headline reads like we've got little Martin Martians running around with their A-1 Disintegration Beam guns)

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...2/7432897.html

It would be interesting to see those number compared to thoses of others country

Ithekro · 2011-07-07, 18:41

The improper reading would make it sound like serious population control gone wrong.

ganbaru · 2011-07-08, 05:32

Firing worker who took hot dogs unjustified
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-07-20-09-16

Xellos-_^ · 2011-07-08, 14:24

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Originally Posted by ganbaru

Firing worker who took hot dogs unjustified
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-07-20-09-16

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a manager ordered the leftovers stored in a break room freezer until Labor Day.

what does the manager want to do with the hotdogs? Grow mushroom. form 7/4 to labor day?

Endless Soul · 2011-07-08, 19:30

Hot dogs with extra special flavoring, of course.

Endless Soul · 2011-07-08, 19:39

Oh dear

Woman died from allergic reaction to sex with dog

I wonder why they took so long to reach a conviction?

ganbaru · 2011-07-08, 22:39

Ohio shop's gorilla mascot attacked by banana
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-08-06-59-20

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STRONGSVILLE, Ohio (AP) -- The manager of a cell phone store in Ohio called 911 to report a gorilla had been attacked by a banana.

Terrestrial Dream · 2011-07-08, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Endless Soul

Oh dear

Woman died from allergic reaction to sex with dog

I wonder why they took so long to reach a conviction?

That is so screwed up. At some point you come to realize that truth is stranger than fiction.

Ithekro · 2011-07-11, 21:41

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43716735..._ca/?GT1=43001

Again with the splitting up of California into smaller states. This time it is the South Eastern rural parts that want to break away. Last time it was the northern rural parts that wanted to get away from the cities. First time it was the Mexican Southern Californians that wanted to distance themselves from the Northern Anglo population.

I did my History Thesis paper on state secession movements, mainly focusing on California (specifically the State of Jefferson, and the last time they wanted to break up the state in the early 1990s that ended up lost in committee after going to a three way split the media termed (Northern California = Logland, Central California = Fogland, Southern California = Smogland))

2011-07-06, 22:51	Link #5186
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Cost of new laws enacted to prevent stupidity. __________________

2011-07-07, 02:29	Link #5188
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	My band director used to say "Every rule exists because at some point, someone did something idiotic and screwed it up for the rest of us". __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2011-07-07, 05:32	Link #5189
ganbaru books-eater youkai Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Betweem wisdom and insanity	Duped: Big Californian gold nugget actually Aussie http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-06-19-16-18 Woman charged with putting antifreeze in smoothie http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-06-19-33-50 __________________

2011-07-07, 15:49	Link #5190
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Nearly 4000 families disintegrate per day in China!!! (yeah, the article is about divorce but the headline reads like we've got little Martin Martians running around with their A-1 Disintegration Beam guns) http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...2/7432897.html __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2011-07-07, 18:41	Link #5193
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	The improper reading would make it sound like serious population control gone wrong. __________________

2011-07-08, 05:32	Link #5194
ganbaru books-eater youkai Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Betweem wisdom and insanity	Firing worker who took hot dogs unjustified http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-07-20-09-16 __________________

2011-07-08, 19:30	Link #5196
Endless Soul Megane girl fan Join Date: May 2011 Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Age: 55	Hot dogs with extra special flavoring, of course. __________________ Signature by ganbaru

2011-07-08, 19:39	Link #5197
Endless Soul Megane girl fan Join Date: May 2011 Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Age: 55	Oh dear Woman died from allergic reaction to sex with dog I wonder why they took so long to reach a conviction? __________________ Signature by ganbaru

2011-07-11, 21:41	Link #5200
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43716735..._ca/?GT1=43001 Again with the splitting up of California into smaller states. This time it is the South Eastern rural parts that want to break away. Last time it was the northern rural parts that wanted to get away from the cities. First time it was the Mexican Southern Californians that wanted to distance themselves from the Northern Anglo population. I did my History Thesis paper on state secession movements, mainly focusing on California (specifically the State of Jefferson, and the last time they wanted to break up the state in the early 1990s that ended up lost in committee after going to a three way split the media termed (Northern California = Logland, Central California = Fogland, Southern California = Smogland)) __________________