Claymore Chapter 115

[Solace]

Welcome to the monthly discussion thread for Claymore, Chapter 115.

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[MisterJB]

I always knew Raki had it in him. I'm so proud.
And of course, as soon as there's a problem, everyone runs to Dae-sama.

[Mighty_frog]

Unofficial chapter 115 Cover:

Originally Posted by haegar

Spoiler for 115:

on second thought, scratch superman, I've seen this guy from this rly bad manga ... and well in that one panel raki kinda looks like ...

seriously

Spoiler for kishi inside?:

wait please dont tell me im seeing what i think im seeing...no...its..just...not...possible

[haegar]

While I enjoy making fun of him he undoubtedly has grown. I'm rly eager to know if they held back against him or not. While I accept he got pwered up badass, it would be a tad ridicolous if he was stronger than Miria - although technically speaking if this was caused by Prissy's arm - there is not rly any limit on his growth depending on where yagi wants to take it XD

edit, as for that pic....no I'm not one of those tards ..and I didn't mean to troll the raki fans (at least not more than usually, which means I behave myself moderatly amicable )- but it just so happens he RLY does look like..."you know who" in that one panel

gave it 9/10 cause I was rly surprised by things

[Ryus]

Moving... post here of mine

Originally Posted by Ryus

OK... chapter ends with the 3 zombie being shown but no facial details.

However I went out of my way (eating dinner atm ) to compare the armor to see if one is wearing Teresa's old armor style and none are... plus only one has hair that could be Teresa.

Spoiler for Ch 115 last page:

[IMG][/IMG]

Spoiler for Vs teresa' armor's backside:

Odds of Teresa being one of the 3 have dropped. That said it doesn't mean she wasn't issued new armor though.

Hmm... now that i think about it one seems to look close to Luciela... maybe she'll become her new body and the other Teresa's new body

Now I'd like to add that I think Raki's now has silver eyes since the art work for them has changed to the standard coloring pattern for Claymore eyes.

Raki's old eye artwork had dull dark shades at it's center



But here in this chapter they have a Claymore's cannon highlighting around the pupil (compare it to the twin, who's slightly further out...)



Plus throw in all his acrobatics and it's clear he's now a full blown Claymore... and based on his battle with the twins at least equal to a high ranking single digit.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Problem is if he had any signifcant amount of Youki shouldn't he of Awakened instantly.

[haegar]

Problem is if he had any signifcant amount of Youki shouldn't he of Awakened instantly.

Normally, yes but it would seem he is something new. When he came back stronger after timeskip there was speculation if soemthing happened to him while with Isley. That was never answered even though its coceivable his previous skills were fully human. Now he had the Rods hitting him, Prissy's arm, and after that nobody knows if Dae did anything to him. He could be anything and could pretty much turn into anything yet from slowly awakening to becoming the first perfect male warrior, imho to early to tell.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

Problem is if he had any signifcant amount of Youki shouldn't he of Awakened instantly.

Agh, but the two pieces of flesh countered each other out as previously stated by Dae and on top of that where removed... So maybe not.

[Korinov]

Originally Posted by haegar

Spoiler for 115:

on second thought, scratch superman, I've seen this guy from this rly bad manga ... and well in that one panel raki kinda looks like ...

seriously

Spoiler for kishi inside?:

Blasphemy. Bring torches.

[Arturro]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

Problem is if he had any signifcant amount of Youki shouldn't he of Awakened instantly.

Even first generation male warriors didn't awakened instantly. Male claymores are just more susceptible to awakening. Also Raki is obviously not a typical claymore.
First, he was implanted by rods (and Priscilla hand), instead of typical use of yoma flesh. Somewhat like Abyssal Eaters
Second, as far as we know, he hasn't undergone a surgery. It was rather "natural" infection with AO flesh.
Third, even if he is freshly made claymore warrior he hardly could be considered as unexperienced. He is rather a veteran. He knows what AB are, what yoki is, how claymores turns into awakened beings. He has seen Clare awakening and even stopped it. He was living for 7 years with two Abyssal Ones. And he was trained and tutored by Isley. He probably knows more about awakening than most of the MiBs.

[Negativedark]

I'll wait to see actual chapter before jumping to any conclusions. But if the twins are letting Raki fight the handlers, then their pretty smart. Remember Claymores have the whole no killing humans thing beaten into them. Raki doesn't. Maybe the twins just needed to see if he was strong enough to defeat the handlers.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by Arturro

Even first generation male warriors didn't awakened instantly. Male claymores are just more susceptible to awakening. Also Raki is obviously not a typical claymore.
First, he was implanted by rods (and Priscilla hand), instead of typical use of yoma flesh. Somewhat like Abyssal Eaters
Second, as far as we know, he hasn't undergone a surgery. It was rather "natural" infection with AO flesh.
Third, even if he is freshly made claymore warrior he hardly could be considered as unexperienced. He is rather a veteran. He knows what AB are, what yoki is, how claymores turns into awakened beings. He has seen Clare awakening and even stopped it. He was living for 7 years with two Abyssal Ones. And he was trained and tutored by Isley. He probably knows more about awakening than most of the MiBs.

Actually it was outright stated the second they released Youki they awakened instantly.

Everything else, we don't really know about.

[haegar]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

Actually it was outright stated the second they released Youki they awakened instantly.

I second that
As for surgery Arturro mentioned. We do not know what Dae did to him. He might have powers because the rods infected him and Prissy's arm stopped or cancelled the takeover. He might have powers due to the arm.

Or, Dae is a bitch and guessed that the arm not only surpressed the destroyer, so he turned Raki into a male claymore to test out if the arm had worked any other changes on him

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by Negativedark

I'll wait to see actual chapter before jumping to any conclusions. But if the twins are letting Raki fight the handlers, then their pretty smart. Remember Claymores have the whole no killing humans thing beaten into them. Raki doesn't. Maybe the twins just needed to see if he was strong enough to defeat the handlers.

Doubtful... he just spared an MiB ninja, it doesn't look like he needs to go lethal to stop them all, and most importantly he wants to be like Clare (whom gave a whole speech about not killing humans when Opheila tried to kill Raki). Finally to the best of our knowledge doesn't know that they created the yoma for a war on the mainland, as far as he knows these are just rent a cops whom make sure the girls whom are needed to become claymores to protect humanity become warriors and can get training and to our knowledge he has no idea what's going on outside.

Though I really do want him killing them off left and right though.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by Negativedark

I'll wait to see actual chapter before jumping to any conclusions. But if the twins are letting Raki fight the handlers, then their pretty smart. Remember Claymores have the whole no killing humans thing beaten into them. Raki doesn't. Maybe the twins just needed to see if he was strong enough to defeat the handlers.

Surprsingly that doesn't make that much sense. Since how did they expect to defeat the organisation if they don't plan to kill any humans. Surely they can't expect raki to kill everyone. Besides I'd doubt the no human killing rule would even work if people found out they overthrew their human overlords.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

Actually it was outright stated the second they released Youki they awakened instantly.

Everything else, we don't really know about.

Agreed, but as you imply we also know some of them were more than strong enough to fight without releasing yoki. So the mid rankers likely got into fights with the low rankers whom awakened instantly and where forced to awaken themselves, and finally those awakened mid rankers encountered the single digits and then everything went to hell.

Around that time the org went "Oh, look the females haven't awoken like the males did... Success!"

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

Surprsingly that doesn't make that much sense. Since how did they expect to defeat the organisation if they don't plan to kill any humans. Surely they can't expect raki to kill everyone. Besides I'd doubt the no human killing rule would even work if people found out they overthrew their human overlords.

two options...

1. Miria teaches them it's ok to draw first blood in this case.
2. They capture them and take them back to Rabona and the burn the heretics who created unholy monsters.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by Ryus

Agreed, but as you imply we also know some of them were more than strong enough to fight without releasing yoki. So the mid rankers likely got into fights with the low rankers whom awakened instantly and where forced to awaken themselves, and finally those awakened mid rankers encountered the single digits and then everything went to hell.

Around that time the org went "Oh, look the females haven't awoken like the males did... Success!"

I always almost felt insulted wheb I remember that males always awakened when they used youki because of their larger than female sex drive. Surely all of them weren't like that. I mean at least one should have been able to keep it in his pants so to speak.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

I always almost felt insulted that males always awakened when they used youki because of their larger than female sex drive. Surely all of them weren't like that. I mean at least one should have been able to keep it in his pants so to speak.

Only the anime mentioned the sex drive as the reason for the males awakening upon releasing yoki (I compare it to a dumbass blowing his load the first time ). In the manga it is unstated why the males awakened upon doing so.

[Tenchi Hou Take]

Originally Posted by Ryus

Only the anime mentioned the sex drive as the reason for the males awakening upon releasing yoki. In the manga it is unstated why the males awakened upon doing so.

It was heavily implied in the manga.