(L) Rosario+Vampire Manga

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by zibi88

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well you can remember that one of the school lords was easyly killed by Hakuto in S1 ^^ so it doesnt mean they are immortal.... we still dont know how strong Akuha really is... and she must have trained this especially to kill Akasha...

so maybe moka will enter the room... will see akuha trying to kill her mom... than Akuha might attack Moka... and here her mom protects her with her own body and dies in hands (while the rosario takes her image as Outer moka....) anyway hard to tell what will happen as we must wait another month to see it... now we cna only make theories and stuff...

I dont remember if it was mentioned when Yukai academy was build ?? was it even metnioned..... we know that Akasha met that "yoda dude" (cant remember his name) but was it before those events we see now... or after... as she come back to human world to discuss the estabilishing of school ect.

time will show...

Hokuto didn't kill the chairman, he just injured him. The chairman is still live and kickin

[zibi88]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Hokuto didn't kill the chairman, he just injured him. The chairman is still live and kickin

well I was allways confused if this was the current chairman... or some other dude... like not only chair man has to wear the robes...there could be other dudes that take orders from the real dark lord....

still I wonder why Akuha wants to find moka... is it in order to bring out Akasha like she needs a bait in this case Akashas daughter.... sooo many posibilities yet we are stuck in speculation and theory makeing for a month xD


but I kinda really want to know if Akasha found and made tsukune enroll into yukai academy (what if tsukune passed exams in some schools... but she and some piecefull monsters made tsukune fail so he could join the monster academy)...and I really hope that somewhere in future chapters they will explain why Tsukune has the ability of a "key" to the rosario... that only he can pull it down and no one else...

It would be priceless to see Tsukunes face expression if he learns that he ended up in this school not from mistake... but it was planed... and in reality Tsukune met mokas mom somewhere in his past (maybe no under the same figure...like she was under a disguise) xD it would kinda point that she already gave her bleesing for them to get married XD

anyway still I wonder why Issa joined fairy tails and now he wants to start a war... (but well what if that figure in dark was nor really issa... but Akuha... as she has dark hair and her hairstyle is similar to Issa's)...soooo many questions yet no answers ;/

hmmm... I wonder if we will get to see a vampire that is useing shadows to fight..."shadow user" it would be fun to see such thing here ^^

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Hokuto didn't kill the chairman, he just injured him. The chairman is still live and kickin

not to mention Hokuto took the chairman by surprise. The chairman let his guard down because he thought Hokuto was successfully subdued and couldn't do anything. He thought Hokuto wouldn't be able to escape from the barrier he put him in. Plus the chairman seems more like a barrier expert than a fighting expert.

[GrrDraxin]

I would also seem that Akuha has a special ability to phase her body through solid objects too, which is how she was able to kill the one dude with her hand in his head. So maybe Moka could do the same or a similar technique if she really tried. Though like we had discussed a few pages back, it may be possible for each vampire to have his or her own unique ability.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by GrrDraxin

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I would also seem that Akuha has a special ability to phase her body through solid objects too, which is how she was able to kill the one dude with her hand in his head. So maybe Moka could do the same or a similar technique if she really tried. Though like we had discussed a few pages back, it may be possible for each vampire to have his or her own unique ability.

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Well, actually what I'm more interested about is how different Tsukune is compared to a human who would be injected with normal vampire blood. I mean ... from what I have gathered, which is still only bits and pieces, so my opinion on this matter might change later in the story ... but apparently it has been revealed in this chapter, that Akasha is a shinso vampire, which to me means that she's an pure blooded vampire. which means that Akasha should be significantly more stronger compared to a normal vampire ... though they might have some other special abilities that normal vampires, don't posses.

It could be also the reason why Tsukune has so much problems with bringing his youkai abilities under control, since if it's going to be confirmed, that Akasha is a pure blood vampire I'm certain that Moka would be a pure blood vampire as well, since she's Akasha's daughter.

It could also be the reason why Tsukune won't reach Moka's level of fighting, though he has still chances of becoming stronger then a normal vampire. ,

[Johnny]

He may or may not get to the level of Moka's ability, but he doesn't have her weakness to water. Although we haven't seen anymore evidence to that since he went ghoul. Also Inner isn't the type to give out compliments, but she did mutter to herself in chapter 18 season II about his rate. Which could be looked at either his ability rising, or his quickness to accept defeat when things get brutal. I'd rather think she was talking about his fighting strength...

[Magin]

My Take on the Dark Lords: I don't know about Tohou, but I would guess that Mikogami's power lies in the magic/barriers, and isn't much of a fighter, whereas Akasha seems to be the physically strong one (after all, she is a true vampire), and I'm sure she has to have a fair amount of barrier power herself, though she may not be an expert in it

and as for Tsukune... well, you guys realize there's been a partial hint with him this whole time- if you look at his name in Japanese, he has the kanji for moon in it, and I'm sure I don't need to discuss the relation that the moon has with vampires (and now if I could just figure out the rest of the kanji meanings in his name...)

and Johnny, where the heck do you keep pulling your avys from?

[yongshun]

Here is a new twist for all of you what if Tsukane and friends are going to be the new dark lords? The chairman maybe grooming Tsukane to be one. While Moka is already powerful but can get even more so as she grows older. If you think about it almost everyone with Tsukane is powerful in their own rights so what if that is the plan all along the creation of a new generation of dark lords?

[Magin]

Actually... how about this- instead of Dark Lords, make them into Dark Knights? Even though, based on Mikogami's comments from the shadows, he does seem to be training them (or more specifically, Tsukune) to be able to handle those from FT, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he's training them to be successors to the power as well. Akasha has Moka, but perhaps Mikogami has chosen Tsukune (he's made comments about Tsukune's power more than once, along with multiple trials). Not only that, but Tsukune's ideology is the same as the Dark Lords'.

and Tohou... he's the wild card (and once we start getting answers and fewer questions/ get back to the present, I'll catch up on the scanlations... though above all else, I want Tsukune to be in ass-kicking Vamp Mode again!)

[Johnny]

Originally Posted by Magin

My Take on the Dark Lords: I don't know about Tohou, but I would guess that Mikogami's power lies in the magic/barriers, and isn't much of a fighter, whereas Akasha seems to be the physically strong one (after all, she is a true vampire), and I'm sure she has to have a fair amount of barrier power herself, though she may not be an expert in it

and as for Tsukune... well, you guys realize there's been a partial hint with him this whole time- if you look at his name in Japanese, he has the kanji for moon in it, and I'm sure I don't need to discuss the relation that the moon has with vampires (and now if I could just figure out the rest of the kanji meanings in his name...)

and Johnny, where the heck do you keep pulling your avys from?

My pervert radar... Actually I made that one from Isekai no Seikishi Monogatari anime, episode three to be exact...

Enlighten me on the moon and vampire thing. I can only think of werewolves and the moon...

[Magin]

Well, werewolves is the obvious, but vampires are still the legendary creatures of the night, and the moon is synonymous with night... and it usually is blood red in classic mythology when vampires are out

and on a side note, the "ne" in his name is written with the kanji for sound... Moon Sound/Sound of the Moon for his name? Or I'm probably just bastardizing things here... now if only I can figure out the first kanji in his last name (the second one means field)

EDIT: okay,. it seems that, if taken literally, you coud say his name means Green (or blue, but I think green works better) field, Moon Sound. Then again, I could really just be bastardizing things here... shame my Japanese is really still that of a toddler...

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Magin

Well, werewolves is the obvious, but vampires are still the legendary creatures of the night, and the moon is synonymous with night... and it usually is blood red in classic mythology when vampires are out

and on a side note, the "ne" in his name is written with the kanji for sound... Moon Sound/Sound of the Moon for his name? Or I'm probably just bastardizing things here... now if only I can figure out the first kanji in his last name (the second one means field)

EDIT: okay,. it seems that, if taken literally, you coud say his name means Green (or blue, but I think green works better) field, Moon Sound. Then again, I could really just be bastardizing things here... shame my Japanese is really still that of a toddler...

Aono uses the kanji for blue and field. Tsukune uses the kanji for moon and sound.

also someone translated a part of the chapter that gives a bit of background on the dark lords:

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Apparently they were given the title because the 3 of them were the ones to subdue and capture Alucard. All 3 of them are true ancestors similar to Alucard. It says the reason is because Alucard sought to destroy the human world... I can see why FT wants him.

[Magin]

Well, I suppose blue makes more sense since the "ao" part is very close to "aoi"...

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as for the dark lords, we know what Akasha is, someone is going to have to tell me if we know what Tohou is, and Mikogami remains a mystery. The only thing I know is that his name can be literally translated as "priest god" (I'm going with priest since I'm pretty sure the Headmaster is a guy, though I think Miko is really "priestess")

and based on the way the Dark Lords got their title, assuming your info is correct... does this mean Ikeda-sensei borrowed a bit from Naruto?

[FriedRice84]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

also someone translated a part of the chapter that gives a bit of background on the dark lords:

Spoiler for 31:

Apparently they were given the title because the 3 of them were the ones to subdue and capture Alucard. All 3 of them are true ancestors similar to Alucard. It says the reason is because Alucard sought to destroy the human world... I can see why FT wants him.

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We keep seeing that they're also true ancestors, but who are they true ancestors to? True ancestors to their own respective species or true ancestors to some singular youkai?

Well, even if those questions don't get answered this chapter or the next few, the plot of R+V is getting even more interesting!

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Magin

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Actually... how about this- instead of Dark Lords, make them into Dark Knights? Even though, based on Mikogami's comments from the shadows, he does seem to be training them (or more specifically, Tsukune) to be able to handle those from FT, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he's training them to be successors to the power as well. Akasha has Moka, but perhaps Mikogami has chosen Tsukune (he's made comments about Tsukune's power more than once, along with multiple trials). Not only that, but Tsukune's ideology is the same as the Dark Lords'.

and Tohou... he's the wild card (and once we start getting answers and fewer questions/ get back to the present, I'll catch up on the scanlations... though above all else, I want Tsukune to be in ass-kicking Vamp Mode again!)

I definitely agree that Mikogami seems to be training Tsukune and is trying to make him into his successor. Though we still don't know what Mikogami and the rest of the dark lords are planing to do with Tsukune and the girls ... since they have gotten involved in something, that currently might be a little too much for them. to take.

Regarding Tsukune's "power", while I agree that Tsukune's power is a little unusual ... since not every average human can manage to obtain vampire abilities and we still don't know how powerful Tsukune is, but I think we will get the answer to that near the end of the series when Tsukune reaches the full potential of his abilities ( since with so much development put into Tsukune slowly learning how to control his abilities, I doubt that the author will leave him as he currently is ... to the end of the series )

I also belove that we will get a revelation about what the Headmaster's plans are foreword Tsukune, and as I said before you're speculation Magin is one of the possible reasons that might be given to explain the Exorcists goals.

Well I also miss Tsukune's vampire form, and hope that Tsukune will finally do something in his vampire form ... sigh ... though judging from you're translations of Tsukune's name, it doesn't seem a coincidence that he acquired the power's of a vampire after all.

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

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Aono uses the kanji for blue and field. Tsukune uses the kanji for moon and sound.

also someone translated a part of the chapter that gives a bit of background on the dark lords:

Spoiler for 31:

Apparently they were given the title because the 3 of them were the ones to subdue and capture Alucard. All 3 of them are true ancestors similar to Alucard. It says the reason is because Alucard sought to destroy the human world... I can see why FT wants him.

Interesting ...

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and going back to what I said in replay to Magin's post ... maybe what the dark lords are looking for people that might be able to destroy Alucard, since even such powerful beings as them, where only able to restrain and capture him. So it's always a risk that Alucard might wake up again, even more powerful then before ... actually I think there is a strong possibility of Alucard waking up later in the story and becoming the final antagonist of the R+V series. (It seems to fit with the cliche shounen manga patterns.

It would also fit with the prophecy of Jack Frost about Tsukune and Moka having a destiny that will change the world ( Rosario + Vampire Season II, chapter 14, page 32) ... killing Alucard, who is the oldest vampire in existence and a true ancestor as well, is definitely something that will force the world to change don't you think.

I'm also wondering what the term "true ancestor" means, but maybe the TL will clear that up for us.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Interesting ...

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and going back to what I said in replay to Magin's post ... maybe what the dark lords are looking for people that might be able to destroy Alucard, since even such powerful beings as them, where only able to restrain and capture him. So it's always a risk that Alucard might wake up again, even more powerful then before ... actually I think there is a strong possibility of Alucard waking up later in the story and becoming the final antagonist of the R+V series. (It seems to fit with the cliche shounen manga patterns.

It would also fit with the prophecy of Jack Frost about Tsukune and Moka having a destiny that will change the world ( Rosario + Vampire Season II, chapter 14, page 32) ... killing Alucard, who is the oldest vampire in existence and a true ancestor as well, is definitely something that will force the world to change don't you think.

I'm also wondering what the term "true ancestor" means, but maybe the TL will clear that up for us.

well here's an idea:

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what if Alucard is already awake. Like maybe during the eventual fight that Kahlua mentioned between Akuha and Moka that has everyone scared of them meeting again, Alucard was awoken from his slumber. Maybe Alucard is now the leader of FT with Akuha at his side. Perhaps he took Akasha captive figuring that just 2 dark lords wasn't enough to defeat him but had plans for her so he kept her alive like maybe controlling her to fight for him in case the other dark lords try fighting him.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

well here's an idea:

Spoiler for 31:

what if Alucard is already awake. Like maybe during the eventual fight that Kahlua mentioned between Akuha and Moka that has everyone scared of them meeting again, Alucard was awoken from his slumber. Maybe Alucard is now the leader of FT with Akuha at his side. Perhaps he took Akasha captive figuring that just 2 dark lords wasn't enough to defeat him but had plans for her so he kept her alive like maybe controlling her to fight for him in case the other dark lords try fighting him.

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Hm .. I think it's a possibility, but we probably won't know until next month, when the, mentioned by you cyberdemon, fight between Akuha and Moka is probably going to take place. It could also be the reason why Moka's memories regarding those events where sealed. Well it's probably the best to wait and see how things unfold from here.

On something else I noticed ... is that this arc just keeps getting better and better ... I'm mean who would have suspected that the plot will get this good after the long period of ... build up chapters.

Anyway here is a translation of the conversation between Akasha and Akuha in the last two pages, that I found ... I don't know how accurate it is, but it should give us some better understanding of chapter 31 (at least parts of it ):

Akuha: I'm glad that you didn't go to see her (= Moka) off.
Akasha: I did. If I (would) see Moka's face (now), this resolution would weaken. Isn't it it like that ... Akuha?
Akuha: Aya ~ It seems my "true character" is already exposed. And father went also one step ahead with his work. So you invited/lured me by any chance?
Akuha: There was once a single true ancestor, who intended to destroy the human world. The true ancestor's name was Alucard. But his ambition got smashed by another true ancestor. This new ancestor joined forces with two comrades. No more than three people fought with magic and enchanting against Alurcard and emerged victorious. Soon that three people were called "The 3 Dark Lords". Even now while Alucard's corpse is in eternal slumber, it is said they are watching over it.
Akuha: I want/desire this legendary blood of the true ancestor. I desire this mighty power. In short: YOU are my target. Leader of the 3 Dark Lords and a true ancestor - Akasha Bloodriver!

So it seems that only Akasha is a true ancestor and Mikogami with Tohou Fuhai where just her ... comrades in arms that helped her in defeating Alucard.

Well at any rate it seems that this chapter is even more interesting then the last one and once again proves that Ikeda sensei is a master in terms of building suspense and adding sudden plot twists that make the plot even more exciting, since I can't wait for the next chapter to come out, even when we still don't know everything about this chapter yet.

[Magin]

Spoiler for just in case...:

I don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but fyi on the shinso aka true vampires (since I'm familiar with one from Negima!)- it simply means they're pure-blooded vampires, and also the more powerful version... and one defining feature is that they're what you might call daywalkers (which explains quite a bit)

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Magin

Spoiler for just in case...:

I don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but fyi on the shinso aka true vampires (since I'm familiar with one from Negima!)- it simply means they're pure-blooded vampires, and also the more powerful version... and one defining feature is that they're what you might call daywalkers (which explains quite a bit)

i don't think being a daywalker is a big deal in this manga. All vampires seem to have that ability.

[Magin]

Keep in mind we've only actually seen two out in the sunlight with no protection... but by doing a little digging, it seems that the Shinsos also don't need blood to survive... though I'm sure it's a tasty snack, as Moka has demonstrated more than once. They also seem to not be weak to the classic stuff... come to think of it, Tsukune's sorta closer to being a shinso than Moka, since Moka has the weakness to water... maybe it's because of the half contributed by Issa? And Tsukune naturally has lack of it because he was human to begin with