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unameit · 2009-05-26, 06:00

why can't full strength luffy, sanji, and zorro can't take down that fake kuma easily??

Z. Kensei · 2009-05-26, 06:27

Kizaru is just awesome. He took those guys out without even breaking a sweat. Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro's attack at the beginning was great to.

Im wondering the same thing about those fake kuma's? Kuma himself must be insanely powerful if his fakes can take all those hits, and still kick ass.

Emerald Emblem · 2009-05-26, 07:38

Zoro is still injured from the real Kuma's Pain Paw. Coupling Luffy's pain on top of his own will take some rehabilitation.

Somnus · 2009-05-26, 16:51

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Originally Posted by unameit

why can't full strength luffy, sanji, and zorro can't take down that fake kuma easily??

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Originally Posted by Z. Kensei

Kizaru is just awesome. He took those guys out without even breaking a sweat. Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro's attack at the beginning was great to.

Im wondering the same thing about those fake kuma's? Kuma himself must be insanely powerful if his fakes can take all those hits, and still kick ass.

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Originally Posted by Emerald Emblem

Zoro is still injured from the real Kuma's Pain Paw. Coupling Luffy's pain on top of his own will take some rehabilitation.

Well, although Zoro's injuries are slowing him down the truth of it all is is that Kuma is actually just THAT strong. So even though in theory a fake is weaker than the original even at 70-80% of real Kuma's power, it's more than enough to give the Strawhats a run for their money.

Prestige · 2009-05-26, 17:25

Pacifistas, or PX-series (Fake kumas) have actually very little common with Kuma actually.

They look same and they are build on similar frame as Kuma but they seem to be fully robotic and without own mind.

Kuma is following World Goverment but he has own personality and own devil fruit power.

Pacifistas seem to be just large and powerful robots who shoot laser beams and have crushing power.

Emerald Emblem · 2009-05-26, 17:31

If Kuma had a Bounty it'd definitely be somewhere in the billions. Even a fake Kuma would have a Bounty in that area.

ellifeedn · 2009-05-26, 18:58

I heard someone say that Kizaru was a textbook definition of someone with a broken power. Do you guys agree?

Nightmare-Kun · 2009-05-26, 19:45

i personally feel bad for the other rookies other than the strawhats cause i dont know whats gonna happen to them after there loss

mageormike · 2009-05-27, 03:32

I agree that Kizaru has a really strong power, but is it really that much stronger than some of the other really powerful characters in the show?

Most of the other Logia powered characters are just about the same IMO, but he and Enel are probably the most similar. It all depends on whether you know and have access to their weakness or not.

Wolcik · 2009-05-27, 05:19

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Originally Posted by mageormike

I agree that Kizaru has a really strong power, but is it really that much stronger than some of the other really powerful characters in the show?

Most of the other Logia powered characters are just about the same IMO, but he and Enel are probably the most similar. It all depends on whether you know and have access to their weakness or not.

Well, Enel was the god, but he was too confident in himself that he let Viper hit him with impact dial.
I don't know but by the way Kizaru is animated, he looks faster than Enel. That's strange because they're both light being in a way.

syler321 · 2009-05-27, 16:51

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Originally Posted by mageormike

I agree that Kizaru has a really strong power, but is it really that much stronger than some of the other really powerful characters in the show?

Most of the other Logia powered characters are just about the same IMO, but he and Enel are probably the most similar. It all depends on whether you know and have access to their weakness or not.

well the way i see it,kizaru is the strongest admiral from all the 3.
and he is way more powerfull then enel,i think so anyway,i mean kizaru is a total lightman,while enel is electricity man thats totaly diffrent,kizaru is still wayyy more faster(speed of light) and his kick is so powerfull im sure enel is far from being in kizaru level of power...

he took out 4 supernovas in like 2 min,and it looks like if all of them were there he would have done the same...
then again i think the only ones that can take kizaru out is kuma or blackbeard,sence kuma can teleport instantly and blackbeard is the oposite from kizaru light power...

Azncoke123 · 2009-05-27, 21:14

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Originally Posted by syler321

well the way i see it,kizaru is the strongest admiral from all the 3.
and he is way more powerfull then enel,i think so anyway,i mean kizaru is a total lightman,while enel is electricity man thats totaly diffrent,kizaru is still wayyy more faster(speed of light) and his kick is so powerfull im sure enel is far from being in kizaru level of power...

he took out 4 supernovas in like 2 min,and it looks like if all of them were there he would have done the same...
then again i think the only ones that can take kizaru out is kuma or blackbeard,sence kuma can teleport instantly and blackbeard is the oposite from kizaru light power...

Just from that fight your judging that Kizaru is the strongest of the admirals? All he did was defeat "rookies" they might have high bounty but against the top tier of OP they are mere ants right now.

junte86 · 2009-05-27, 22:42

speed of light is three times faster than lightning.

syler321 · 2009-05-28, 08:08

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Originally Posted by junte86

speed of light is three times faster than lightning.

yes,so to answer your question kizaru is much faster then enel.

and dont get me wrong sure kizaru just took out 4 rookies in a min,but come on enel didnt do anything like that....

and well i think kizaru is the strongest of admirals yeh,we didnt see what is the power of the 3rd admiral but we did saw aykiji ice power which is very strong,but i still think kizaru light power is stronger...

junte86 · 2009-05-28, 10:24

Goro Goro no mi is supposed to be thunder and as Kizaru's fruit is light I think we can assume Enel's speed is not same with Kizaru.

junte86 · 2009-05-28, 13:09

I doubt there will be a sound logia. And although it was a filler done by anime there was a fruit that gave a user to fire a lager beam by shouting... I am not sure Oda will consider putting sound as an element although I think it is probable there could be a fruit that can materialize the sound to attack thair opponents.

wingdarkness · 2009-05-28, 16:55

Haven’t been in the thread in quite a while but I have to say the Bubble-Island arc has been the most enjoyable arc in recent memory for me (Skypiea was the last really awesome arc for me I guess)…Tally-Ho//Save Robin arc was just soooooooooooooooooooo loooooooong I just couldn’t take it eventhough the end fight was pretty good….Zombie island was just meh for me with the whole BIG MONSTER fight that lasted forever (Although paw-power dude kicked a$$), but this arc has had a great pace (Thank God), great revelations (I’d say the Gold Roger backstory episode was a top 10 ep of alltime!! Finally it felt like we were in the REAL STORY!), and great villains and pirates… From the dattebayo ninja panda, to the “Shambles” dude, to the light speed a$Shole with shades (God I pray Sanji fights him!), I have been impressed with the character designs and the oddity of abilities…The action and comedy have been on-point aswell, but the intrigue and unpredictable nature of this arc has me buzzing…

Azncoke123 · 2009-05-28, 21:19

Can't wait till 2-3 more episodes it might be the best One Piece episode ever.

Out of all the Supernovas aside from the SH, I must say Hawkins is my favorite out of them all

Wargumm1i · 2009-05-30, 03:31

Lol has anyone seen the news on ANN? episode 403 leaked with eng subs by Funimation onto the internet :P I saw the episode on Anilinkz.

Petbe · 2009-05-30, 05:59

Noooooo!!! 403 was great but finished with such a cliffhanger. So not cool! There is no preview or anything, argh!! I swear, that "To Be Continued" is evil I tell you, evil! Nice episode, I do feel bad for zoro, he goes through so much and isn't even a devil fruit user. He is the second highest wanted person on the Sunny for a reason.

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wingdarkness Retweet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA	Haven’t been in the thread in quite a while but I have to say the Bubble-Island arc has been the most enjoyable arc in recent memory for me (Skypiea was the last really awesome arc for me I guess)…Tally-Ho//Save Robin arc was just soooooooooooooooooooo loooooooong I just couldn’t take it eventhough the end fight was pretty good….Zombie island was just meh for me with the whole BIG MONSTER fight that lasted forever (Although paw-power dude kicked a$$), but this arc has had a great pace (Thank God), great revelations (I’d say the Gold Roger backstory episode was a top 10 ep of alltime!! Finally it felt like we were in the REAL STORY!), and great villains and pirates… From the dattebayo ninja panda, to the “Shambles” dude, to the light speed a$Shole with shades (God I pray Sanji fights him!), I have been impressed with the character designs and the oddity of abilities…The action and comedy have been on-point aswell, but the intrigue and unpredictable nature of this arc has me buzzing… __________________ Fly since ↔...

2009-05-30, 05:59	Link #300
Petbe Wingless Angel Join Date: Dec 2005	Noooooo!!! 403 was great but finished with such a cliffhanger. So not cool! There is no preview or anything, argh!! I swear, that "To Be Continued" is evil I tell you, evil! Nice episode, I do feel bad for zoro, he goes through so much and isn't even a devil fruit user. He is the second highest wanted person on the Sunny for a reason. __________________ The past does not dictate the future.

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unameit Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	why can't full strength luffy, sanji, and zorro can't take down that fake kuma easily??

2009-05-26, 06:27	Link #282
Z. Kensei Kensei?? Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seattle,WA	Kizaru is just awesome. He took those guys out without even breaking a sweat. Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro's attack at the beginning was great to. Im wondering the same thing about those fake kuma's? Kuma himself must be insanely powerful if his fakes can take all those hits, and still kick ass.

2009-05-26, 17:25	Link #285
Prestige Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Grand Line	Pacifistas, or PX-series (Fake kumas) have actually very little common with Kuma actually. They look same and they are build on similar frame as Kuma but they seem to be fully robotic and without own mind. Kuma is following World Goverment but he has own personality and own devil fruit power. Pacifistas seem to be just large and powerful robots who shoot laser beams and have crushing power.

2009-05-26, 18:58	Link #287
ellifeedn Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York	I heard someone say that Kizaru was a textbook definition of someone with a broken power. Do you guys agree?

2009-05-26, 19:45	Link #288
Nightmare-Kun The Nightmare Begins... Join Date: May 2009	i personally feel bad for the other rookies other than the strawhats cause i dont know whats gonna happen to them after there loss

2009-05-27, 03:32	Link #289
mageormike Resident Gaijin Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 40	I agree that Kizaru has a really strong power, but is it really that much stronger than some of the other really powerful characters in the show? Most of the other Logia powered characters are just about the same IMO, but he and Enel are probably the most similar. It all depends on whether you know and have access to their weakness or not.

2009-05-27, 22:42	Link #293
junte86 Member Join Date: Sep 2007	speed of light is three times faster than lightning.

2009-05-28, 10:24	Link #295
junte86 Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Goro Goro no mi is supposed to be thunder and as Kizaru's fruit is light I think we can assume Enel's speed is not same with Kizaru.

2009-05-28, 13:09	Link #296
junte86 Member Join Date: Sep 2007	I doubt there will be a sound logia. And although it was a filler done by anime there was a fruit that gave a user to fire a lager beam by shouting... I am not sure Oda will consider putting sound as an element although I think it is probable there could be a fruit that can materialize the sound to attack thair opponents.

2009-05-28, 21:19	Link #298
Azncoke123 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Can't wait till 2-3 more episodes it might be the best One Piece episode ever. Out of all the Supernovas aside from the SH, I must say Hawkins is my favorite out of them all

2009-05-30, 03:31	Link #299
Wargumm1i Hentai Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Iceland	Lol has anyone seen the news on ANN? episode 403 leaked with eng subs by Funimation onto the internet :P I saw the episode on Anilinkz.