2021-01-21, 15:32 | Link #81 | ||
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All the times he tried to escape just get him worst and made him suffer even more to the point where he give up in escape and just focused on get his revenge. The point is what we are seeying is the result of all the crap they did to him in his first life, the current one is just being the "tool for his revenge". Quote:
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2021-01-21, 16:09 | Link #82 |
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It's pretty weird seeing a lot of people who watched this last episode justifying any kind of rape (whether it's fictional or not is besides the point), some are even going as far as to admit to he willing to do the same. It reminds me of why I dropped the manga in the first place.
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2021-01-21, 19:51 | Link #84 | |
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As for "punishments" being a "necessary" aspect of gaining control, I'd ask you to watch the interactions again. She wasn't once shown throwing insults or harming him in response to any form of disobedience, she just did it because he was within reach and simply by existing filled her with disgust. Not to mention that I'm going to have to call BS on the idea in general, since to an addict the denial of drugs is in and of itself a horrible punishment, and thus withholding drugs until he does as he's told, as she's shown doing, is pretty much all that's needed, and the only aspect of her abuse that's portrayed as a "discipline" that could improve her control. The rest is nothing more than a desire to harm the filthy cur that her father is forcing her to tend to. So no, while some minor alterations could make similar actions into a rational plan to gain control, as it occurred it was indeed by and large nothing more than a desire to cause pain. Not to mention that a callous indifference to someone's suffering is considered in many places and courts to be just as much an act of active malice as the actual sadistic pursuit of the target's pain. Last edited by BWTraveller; 2021-01-21 at 23:57. |
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2021-01-22, 13:36 | Link #90 | |
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Not sure if I'll stick around for this one, regardless. I play healer in most online games so I can sympathize with healer vengeance! to a point but its just edgy more than than legitimately shocking or psychological. |
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2021-01-22, 16:57 | Link #91 | |
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Whether or not the Princess actively physically participated in the violations is utterly irrelevant considering it happened on her orders to begin with.
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2021-01-22, 18:59 | Link #92 | |
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Bit still, this seems like a kind of absurd debate. We all seem to be agreed that the character's evil is exaggerated to absurd levels in order to either give people an excuse to enjoy the rape or create the image of satisfying vengeance, yet people are arguing about how she may have not done the things she's implied to have done or may have done them for "valid" reasons that make the character far worse. Isn't it enough that he's a broken creature living for the sole purpose of inflicting pain on his targets? Do we really have to prove that those targets might be innocent victims? |
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2021-01-22, 19:09 | Link #93 | |
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2021-01-22, 20:06 | Link #94 | ||
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2021-01-22, 21:14 | Link #96 |
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to clarify some points,
1 - first heroes themselfs don't gain "any power up" this power up is only for "non-heroes, i means heroes already have unlimited "level up" they don't need this, having sex between then wil be just for pleasure or in his case to copy the others heroes powers while having sex like he did with the maids, the peoples which get the "power up" are the "normal peoples which do need the cap break otherwise they can't level up as the heroes can. 2 - its about the "fluids" which means the male fluid(not necessary the only fluid but the most easy and pleasure to get) or some female fluids(the same as the male) but overal for a male gain some benefits from a female it would be more from oral, than he put inside her, this is why is more easy to get from "males". 3 - a male raping and banging another male "from behind" not gonna gain any power up, they were doing it just for the "evil" to show how nasty and twisted they are, this is why the guy kissed and "sucked" some of the fluid from the girl which did the oral on mc. 4 - while "having sex" with a heroe break the level up, it's don't means which he can do it forever or which it will work forever too, like rpgs game as you level up the "xp needed to the next level grow up to to a point where for peoples like soldiers which normally don't go hunting powerfull foes, become pointless get the cap increased because they never gonna be able to level up to those levels due to then lacking in proper xp gain be by training or fighting, then for the soldiers, trying to aiming for really high levels would be meanless and if they don't proper level up to keep getting the power up they stop to get this "power up from him". Another note just because in this new time line he managed to escape early than previous one don't means which he didn't suffered, remember it was still sixth months or suffering, while in previous life was few years, he was still abused by everyone and it also count the prince which while she don't had sex with him she still abused him herself with some violence and others things which is a little spoiler for next income episdes but he was still abused by everyone for a long time(sixth months)
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2021-01-22, 21:38 | Link #97 |
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I think when he reset everything(not really time travel) he also reset his power level so he was not strong enough to keep from being taken advantage of. So he just tried to tough through it while grabbing as much power as he could while taking steps to get drug resistance as fast as possible.
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2021-01-22, 21:55 | Link #98 | |
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And again, I'd ask you to look again at the events leading up to this. Flare may not have done some of the things that she would do in the previous timeline, but she has trapped him in a filthy dungeon, made him a guinea pig, forced him to have sex, enslaved him with drugs, and consistently abused him with no purpose besides a desire to injure him. And that's just what we know. Making her "innocent" requires that one either ignore a great deal of what she's done and authorized or make leaps and bounds to excuse her behavior, all to make a story that we all know is basically a revenge fantasy into a sadistic torture of "innocent" victims. And to Magewolf, that seems to be correct. He didn't have any of his powers at the start of the first ep. No healing powers until the coming of age, no eyes of truth until he performed the ritual, and no experience or power until he used Heal to plunder experience and skill from maids and other people. |
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2021-01-22, 22:29 | Link #100 | |
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you forget the point he is "totally mad at this point his mind was broken the only thing in his mind is his thirt for revenge, then this "reset" was the first and more crazy thing which comes to his mind during this moment, you can't expectate a person in his state to be able te be really rational.
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