2008-10-21, 08:57 | Link #2161 |
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Well that was pointless and a waste of time, moving on......
Anyone expecting something for the upcoming picture dramas, for one thing I hope they do one during the one month Lelouch and Suzaku were together to see how they actually came up with the decision that they made or something like an epilogue of sorts that takes place after episode 25 since the upcoming ones don't look as interesting. |
2008-10-21, 09:06 | Link #2162 |
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i want an answer about what lelouch's actions concerning kallen in ep 22 were about (he basiclly made sure she would be against him in the final plan)
he had no problem letting suzaku and C.C in on ZERO-R he also had jeremia sayoko Lloyd cecile and nina as part of the plan but he made it a point to exclued kallen from it there are several theories as to why he did that but i hope we get the final answer if they make a "planning ZERO-R" pic drama the question must have been raised during the planning stage (either by C.C, or suzaku) of whether or not tell kallen about it and try to get her to join (it would have made it much easier to pull off) but lelouch deceided to keep her out of the plan (not only out of the plan, but didnt even tell her that there even IS a plan at all) and his actions in ep 22 show that he is not happy about it (it the only thing he does during ZERO-R that he actually seems sad about except the thing with nunnaly) i hope they answer that one if they do make such a pic drama
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2008-10-21, 10:25 | Link #2165 |
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isnt she
she came right up to him and asked him what he's up to she also made her feelings for him rather clear making sure he knows she still believes in him he kept many people out of the plan as he was never in a position to tell them about it (or that telling them about it would ruin the plan, kaguya or xing-ke) kallen is the only person on earth who he litterally makes it a point to keep out of the plan (he even looks like he's biting his lips when she asks him what he's up to) and it makes no tactical sense so why do it (i have my theory but i want conffermation)
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2008-10-21, 10:49 | Link #2167 |
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again your ignoring the fact that unlike rest of the world kallen was in a position where he could ask her to help him
no one else would have even listened to him (while she came out and asked him about it) and lelouch had tried to keep sherly out of his world from the start (even erasing her memory) kallen was a part of that aspect of his life since day one and since she is the only one of the four main characters to be kept out of the plan he had no logical reason to do so and the question would have came up (C.C would have at least asked him if he doesnt mind having kallen as his enemy)
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2008-10-21, 10:59 | Link #2173 |
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she almost killed him becouse of it
almost killed suzkau as well would have kinda killed off the whole plan she also almost died herself so if the idea was to protect her the whole thing falls kinda flat
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2008-10-21, 11:20 | Link #2177 |
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Lelouch isn't one to make plans that count on something so incredibly uncertain as 'Kallen (who isn't going to know about the plan) needs to defeat Suzaku so it looks like he dies w/o actually killing him.' There would be too many things that could go wrong. To be certain, once it happened, they were able to make use of it, but I doubt that was part of the original plan. I don't think Lelouch realized just how far Kallen would be willing to go to stop him; he was surprised when she just busted in the hanger of the Avalon.
As far as keeping Kallen out of the plan goes, at the very least, he wanted to keep her from getting villized in the eyes of the world like himself and Suzaku. Also, I'm pretty sure he at least knew her feelings for him and likely had strong feelings for her as well. She wouldn't have gone along w/ a plan that involved his death (or, if it did happen, him disappearing forever). youngde, signing off.
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2008-10-21, 11:29 | Link #2178 |
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also
once he had control of the damocles he would have won the war already the OOBK would have had to surrender at that point he couldnt have planned on kallen getting past the shield just in time to fight suzaku and fake his death (without actually killing him, and being left in a position to see him die but no longer be able to stop lelouch)
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2008-10-21, 11:44 | Link #2179 |
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Lelouch couldn't have planned when, where and how exactly (though let's not forget we are talking about the guy who managed to guess Schneizel's every answer to his recorded video ), but I'm pretty sure "Kallen will turn up at some point and try and stop Suzaku" was part of the plan. He probably thought things would go a bit more smoothly, though.
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2008-10-21, 11:53 | Link #2180 |
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how would she have gotten past the blaze luminus (considering what they had to do in order to get past it)
he also sent suzaku to the flank while kallen was at the front during the battle (and we never did find out what he was doing there since mount fuji took down the OOBK, but lelouch did say that it was importent) and once the damocles was in his hands the battle was over planning for kallen to be the one to fake suzaku's death makes nho sense (suzaku even tries talking her out of the fight)
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