2012-07-11, 22:17 | Link #3321 | |
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Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
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Myself... practically speaking - I'm an atheist in that the method of science leads my way. BUT I tend to practice the principles of Buddhism and I like describing the world in animist terms, specifically Shinto with occasional splurges of Celtic folk mythos.
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2012-10-06, 14:23 | Link #3322 |
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: CA, USA
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Hopefully this is on-topic, but I just wanted to share my confusion on semantics and read more opinions; do you think that belief is binary, or is it more of a threshold (continuous)? To be more clear, I've seen a common argument that belief is an all or nothing game, binary, when debating against the validity of agnosticism, in that all people are either theists or atheists.
It's just that, as an agnostic, I can't hold that to be true when I look at reality. You can never be completely sure about anything. But when people argue that two conflicting beliefs are an impossible, illogical stance to make, I can't bring myself to find the words to express my disagreement, if that makes sense?
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2012-10-06, 18:00 | Link #3324 |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: قلوب المؤمنين
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Culturally muslim agnostic nowadays, while parents belong to different denominations from each other (Papa Aegir is Shiite-Kejawenist while Mama Aegir is Orthodox Syafi'ite Sunni.)
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2012-10-06, 19:09 | Link #3326 |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Agnostic. Though I am abit of an outcast since my parents are Taoist-Buddhist mixed, my sis converted to corporate Christianity and my maternal side has a few Muslim relatives.
If Mideast is to go to war between the Sunni-Shiite factions, choose one.
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2012-10-06, 21:56 | Link #3328 |
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Agnostic Secular Humanist? I'm not terribly interested in the metaphysical or spiritual to begin with on a personal level, although I'm intensely curious about it from a demographic and third-party perspective. One of my best friends is buddhist and is a "qi gong" martial arts practitioner -- which I've always prodded him to explain to me in terms I could comprehend.
Parents are "kind of" Buddhist, particularly mum, although it's a weird Chinese Buddhism and she worships all these gods. Dad couldn't be bothered by spirituality at all. Last edited by willx; 2012-10-06 at 22:16. Reason: Typo |
2012-10-06, 22:12 | Link #3329 | |
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2012-10-07, 12:49 | Link #3335 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Northeast USA
Age: 38
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By comparison, agnosticism is unique. Agnosticism is open to the idea that God may exist, but it's also open to the idea that God may not exist. People often try to polarize it one way or another. To a staunch atheist, if you have any inkling that God does exist, then you're a believer. To a staunch follower of some religion, if you sort-of-believe but don't wholeheartedly take the religious teachings to heart, then you're a non-believer. I can see where the thinking of each comes from. It's a matter of having a set belief and then measuring up someone else's belief compared to yours; they either match your belief or they don't, and there's no gray zone. However, if you examine a person's belief on its own, then there certainly can be a "range of belief."
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2012-10-07, 13:14 | Link #3336 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
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You go with the evidence you have and keep collecting more evidence. You modify your model as you go along.
If you aren't doing that then, you've sort of stopped thinking.
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2012-10-07, 14:44 | Link #3337 |
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
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I don't believe there is a all powerful omnipresent-yet-invisible god or gods, however I do believe that there are beings in the universe that are far older and much more learned than our own kind, which to us, would look like gods.
Endless "Universe" Soul
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2012-10-07, 18:49 | Link #3338 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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If no evidence exists pertaining to something's existence, the automatic stance pretty much everyone takes is a negative. There's no reason that God should be given any special treatment. If I'm God Agnostic, I have to be Giant Cheese agnostic and everything else agnostic too. |
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2012-10-07, 19:29 | Link #3339 | |
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Claims of "possibility" or "impossibility" can only be used relative to a particular framework. As such, insistence on claiming the impossibility of something is to claim the infallibility of a particular knowledge construct.
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2012-10-07, 22:09 | Link #3340 | |
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You could say being agnostic is being half-assed since you don't commit to any side. But if you ask me, it is the only logical answer one can make to the question whether God exists with such a lack of evidence on either side. You may be able to rationalize why God is or isn't, but it ultimately won't mount to a definitive proof. In the end it's your own belief whether God exist or not. We simply don't know, and I'd say we can't know.
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