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MarthX · 2009-09-17, 04:47

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(and probably the rest of the arc)

Let's not get our hopes up now. Remember episode 6 (first episode of Turn) was done really well too.

Tyabann · 2009-09-17, 05:10

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Originally Posted by Schneizel

"Normal practice"? Lol what.

I've seen it done a lot, especially in video games, actually.

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Originally Posted by MarthX

Let's not get our hopes up now. Remember episode 6 (first episode of Turn) was done really well too.

But, but, they HAVE to do this arc well.

patnam · 2009-09-17, 06:12

The OP changed is very nice than the previous one, hope the ED will also change...

ChibiBear · 2009-09-17, 06:24

I liked the new OP too ^^ Especially how Jessica and Kanon are *together* Hehe~

Chrono Helix · 2009-09-17, 07:03

Spoiler:

rogerpepitone · 2009-09-17, 07:05

In Turn, Beatrice is portrayed wearing the ring when she gives Shannon the brooch. Also, Maria gets the letter a little after noon.

Battler-kun · 2009-09-17, 07:10

Hm, now let the game beginn once again....but this time Bernkastel will play a more important rule.....but i wonder anyways what role she took in the previous episodes as she didn't deny that she was not only an observer.

Also, i was like wtf. .... 2 Beatrice? So i guess it is a title to obtain and Maria wants to become the next Beatrice? Still riddled about that.

Also that young Eva appearing in Eva's head....is this the work of Bernkastel?

Rosa killed the "real" Beatrice ? °_o Now my head is twisting.....

I am really thrilled how the game this time will alternate from the other ones.

MeoTwister5 · 2009-09-17, 07:29

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Originally Posted by Battler-kun

Hm, now let the game beginn once again....but this time Bernkastel will play a more important rule.....but i wonder anyways what role she took in the previous episodes as she didn't deny that she was not only an observer.

Also, i was like wtf. .... 2 Beatrice? So i guess it is a title to obtain and Maria wants to become the next Beatrice? Still riddled about that.

Also that young Eva appearing in Eva's head....is this the work of Bernkastel?

Rosa killed the "real" Beatrice ? °_o Now my head is twisting.....

I am really thrilled how the game this time will alternate from the other ones.

Young Eva is a figment of her regrets and anger of not being considered a capable heir to the family, as emphasized by her flashback.

The reality of "Rosa killed Beatrice" will be revealed in the nest episode so there's no need so far to wrack brains over it.

MayumiHime · 2009-09-17, 07:30

I like episode 12.~

Was one of the episodes without coloring errors.
But my friends (anime-only) are like "WTF.", because of the new characters in the OP and Rosa saying that she killed Beatrice.
They really wanted to know more but I won't tell them, mwahaha. <D'

Overall a good episode, I hope they'll keep up the great work. (Please, DEEN.

)

Does anyone know why it's "Sacrifice a sheep to god" at the end of the ED?... D:

@patnam
I don't think that they'll change it.

Jan-Poo · 2009-09-17, 07:31

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Rosa killed the "real" Beatrice ? °_o Now my head is twisting.....

Genji said that Beatrice died some time before in ep5 ^^

jeroz · 2009-09-17, 07:31

initially got a bit annoyed by some weird(if not crappy) graphics that would look bad if got screencaptured, eg. Loli Beatrice. I cannot enjoy the loli-ness because the drawing of her face is just so inconsistent.
Went back to see the OP again once I read people commenting on it, like the changes, but then again, got disappointed by lamdaDelta's eyes......but it's only like 1 sec anyway...

I am kind of fussy on the animation inconsistency, but I thought the whole episode is quite tight if not possibly skipped a lot of critical scenes(and thankfully according to people here that it's not). Love the Endless Witch's (I'll just call her that since I am yet to know the other Beatrice's title/name) outburst and Battler's comment after the beach scene.
now with Sugita providing Ronove's voice, I am allowed to laugh at whatever he says right?

gdmcrjunkie · 2009-09-17, 07:54

Agh, I was hoping to hear Battler's "Please, let it end......!" but oh well, I know it wasn't necessary.

Good episode, and I love the new opening. I wonder what the portrait will become in Episode 4 though

Tjaard · 2009-09-17, 07:55

Liked the new OP, certainly better than the previous

Evil young eva surely is good to see

Virgilia's VA was really good and funny to see a young Beato.
And for finish Ronove was awesome to see and listening xDD

chibi_nekoi · 2009-09-17, 08:06

Well, like everyone said, it is a great episode, and I absolute love the new OP XD

However, I may be wrong or mishear it but they left out the "Call me Beato" part in the previous episodes and now Battler started to call her Beato out of nowhere (in their discussion about the number of person)

Raneh · 2009-09-17, 08:16

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Originally Posted by chibi_nekoi

However, I may be wrong or mishear it but they left out the "Call me Beato" part in the previous episodes and now Battler started to call her Beato out of nowhere (in their discussion about the number of person)

Yea I was just going to say the same thing, she never even gave him permission !

Nothing bad I can say about the episode, although I imagined Ronove to be a bit different. The opening had some cheap looking transitions but also some nice animation.
Briefly, a great episode

y0shi · 2009-09-17, 08:19

So is beatrice having the ring before getting the ring a mistake or a clue?

NeoWorm · 2009-09-17, 08:23

First thing - Spoiler in Opening really piss me off - but the rest...
Why can they do right only flashback episodes? This one was allright for most of time. Nice directing and nice screenplay. Even the music was used right. When compared with the scened from EP2 it almost feels like watching different series. However its too late, that should start in EP2 when the metaworld scenes started.

Evas flashback should be longer - "Hey I am your younger self do you remember? Sudenly believe in magic and all will be alright." - thats just not enough.
No smoking Rudolf and Hideyoshi on boat. Also skipping the scenes with Battler and seven Sisters and than mentioning it looks kinda stupid.
I dont like Renove - hes not slick enough. He looks and speaks like submissive homosexual than a one of the most powerful demons that works like butler to kill some time.
Last scene where Rosa suddenly says she killed Beatrice was out of place.

There was a lot of very lazy animation (the inheritance discussion scene again, beach scene) on the other hand few scenes were done really well (Eva flashback, Metaworld).

DEEN is trying to make the series graduating just like VN was graduating through all episodes. But the novel started at high quality and was only adding more awesome parts, DEEN started very poor and is slowly through mediocre quality to actually good one. I still expect next espisodes to fall in quality again, just like it was in second arc.

EDIT: I forgot one Minor fail - "Beatrice" with opened eyes.

Westlo · 2009-09-17, 08:33

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Originally Posted by NeoWorm

EDIT: I forgot one Minor fail - "Beatrice" with opened eyes.

I'm sure you forgot more, please rewatch and than play through the VN scenes so everyone knows what they're missing out

Natsuki Hyuga · 2009-09-17, 09:03

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Originally Posted by NeoWorm

First thing - Spoiler in Opening really piss me off - but the rest...

One thing that I find very funny is that why you mention them as spoiler

Supposing you take an anime only viewer stance, actually it serves more like anticipation boost and/or curiosity baiter. I mean, like the OP animations would be a spoiler if no one has not said anything about it, they would only be "might be" spoilers if you know what I mean ^_____^

urusai · 2009-09-17, 09:05

Seriously, VN purists are their own worst enemies.

View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 12 Rating
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2009-09-17, 06:24	Link #84
ChibiBear Aim's Stalker ^_~ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Australia Age: 29	I liked the new OP too ^^ Especially how Jessica and Kanon are together Hehe~ __________________ Meow meow nano desu~ Nipah~

2009-09-17, 07:03	Link #85
Chrono Helix Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008	Spoiler: Beatrice gave Maria a sealed letter, and then she got the ring from Kinzo? Is there something wrong there? And I'm trying to figure out how Rosa saying she killed Beatrice screws over Meta-Battler. __________________ The Art of Kancho

2009-09-17, 07:31	Link #91
jeroz Art Block Specialist Join Date: Jun 2007	initially got a bit annoyed by some weird(if not crappy) graphics that would look bad if got screencaptured, eg. Loli Beatrice. I cannot enjoy the loli-ness because the drawing of her face is just so inconsistent. Went back to see the OP again once I read people commenting on it, like the changes, but then again, got disappointed by lamdaDelta's eyes......but it's only like 1 sec anyway... I am kind of fussy on the animation inconsistency, but I thought the whole episode is quite tight if not possibly skipped a lot of critical scenes(and thankfully according to people here that it's not). Love the Endless Witch's (I'll just call her that since I am yet to know the other Beatrice's title/name) outburst and Battler's comment after the beach scene. now with Sugita providing Ronove's voice, I am allowed to laugh at whatever he says right? __________________ [TAC]

2009-09-17, 07:55	Link #93
Tjaard Welcome to Kourindou Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: A Boring Island Age: 39	Liked the new OP, certainly better than the previous Evil young eva surely is good to see Virgilia's VA was really good and funny to see a young Beato. And for finish Ronove was awesome to see and listening xDD __________________

2009-09-17, 06:12	Link #83
patnam Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	The OP changed is very nice than the previous one, hope the ED will also change...

2009-09-17, 07:05	Link #86
rogerpepitone Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	In Turn, Beatrice is portrayed wearing the ring when she gives Shannon the brooch. Also, Maria gets the letter a little after noon.

2009-09-17, 07:10	Link #87
Battler-kun Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Hm, now let the game beginn once again....but this time Bernkastel will play a more important rule.....but i wonder anyways what role she took in the previous episodes as she didn't deny that she was not only an observer. Also, i was like wtf. .... 2 Beatrice? So i guess it is a title to obtain and Maria wants to become the next Beatrice? Still riddled about that. Also that young Eva appearing in Eva's head....is this the work of Bernkastel? Rosa killed the "real" Beatrice ? °_o Now my head is twisting..... I am really thrilled how the game this time will alternate from the other ones.

2009-09-17, 07:30	Link #89
MayumiHime Kihihihi... Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Germany	I like episode 12.~ Was one of the episodes without coloring errors. But my friends (anime-only) are like "WTF.", because of the new characters in the OP and Rosa saying that she killed Beatrice. They really wanted to know more but I won't tell them, mwahaha. <D' Overall a good episode, I hope they'll keep up the great work. (Please, DEEN. ) Does anyone know why it's "Sacrifice a sheep to god" at the end of the ED?... D: @patnam I don't think that they'll change it.

2009-09-17, 07:54	Link #92
gdmcrjunkie Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Agh, I was hoping to hear Battler's "Please, let it end......!" but oh well, I know it wasn't necessary. Good episode, and I love the new opening. I wonder what the portrait will become in Episode 4 though

2009-09-17, 08:06	Link #94
chibi_nekoi ~kitty~ Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 31	Well, like everyone said, it is a great episode, and I absolute love the new OP XD However, I may be wrong or mishear it but they left out the "Call me Beato" part in the previous episodes and now Battler started to call her Beato out of nowhere (in their discussion about the number of person) __________________

2009-09-17, 08:19	Link #96
y0shi Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cologne (Germany)	So is beatrice having the ring before getting the ring a mistake or a clue? __________________ ~ I'll hold your hand if you hold mine ~ ~ The time that we kill keeps us alive ~

2009-09-17, 08:23	Link #97
NeoWorm Member Join Date: Apr 2009	First thing - Spoiler in Opening really piss me off - but the rest... Why can they do right only flashback episodes? This one was allright for most of time. Nice directing and nice screenplay. Even the music was used right. When compared with the scened from EP2 it almost feels like watching different series. However its too late, that should start in EP2 when the metaworld scenes started. Evas flashback should be longer - "Hey I am your younger self do you remember? Sudenly believe in magic and all will be alright." - thats just not enough. No smoking Rudolf and Hideyoshi on boat. Also skipping the scenes with Battler and seven Sisters and than mentioning it looks kinda stupid. I dont like Renove - hes not slick enough. He looks and speaks like submissive homosexual than a one of the most powerful demons that works like butler to kill some time. Last scene where Rosa suddenly says she killed Beatrice was out of place. There was a lot of very lazy animation (the inheritance discussion scene again, beach scene) on the other hand few scenes were done really well (Eva flashback, Metaworld). DEEN is trying to make the series graduating just like VN was graduating through all episodes. But the novel started at high quality and was only adding more awesome parts, DEEN started very poor and is slowly through mediocre quality to actually good one. I still expect next espisodes to fall in quality again, just like it was in second arc. EDIT: I forgot one Minor fail - "Beatrice" with opened eyes. Last edited by Klashikari; 2009-09-17 at 11:00. Reason: not named for the time being.

2009-09-17, 09:05	Link #100
urusai Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Seriously, VN purists are their own worst enemies.