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Kakkou · 2012-12-07, 04:40

Manga: Haruto Shioda (汐田晴人, unsure of reading) (Cerberus Jam)

Announced along with the Devil Survivor 2 anime, it'll be serialised in Monthly G Fantasy starting from their January issue (on sale 18th December)

...The art looks better than the DeSu manga. Between this manga and the anime, the first game sure is getting the short end of the stick. ;__;

Insane · 2012-12-07, 08:55

Hmm? I thought the artist of the manga was the same with Yozakura kuartet (Also the one handling the character design for the game version), but it seems i was wrong.

Shadow5YA · 2012-12-07, 14:43

Pretty nice artwork. The DeSu2 MC looks a little closer to the P3MC now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakkou

...The art looks better than the DeSu manga. Between this manga and the anime, the first game sure is getting the short end of the stick. ;__;

As I said in the anime thread, I think DeSu2 is much safer to air because its themes (the Akashic record, the zodiac and astrology, fate) are all neutral compared to DeSu1's highly religious biblical references.

Mura · 2012-12-07, 20:28

Very nice, since I haven't played the game I'll be on the lookout when it comes out.

Von Himmel · 2012-12-28, 11:48

Oh yeah I forgot you've created this thread back then

One thing that I noticed from the first chapter is that the MC and his friends doesn't need to defeat the demon to make the contract... still, that scene where the demons were eating humans seems to imply that they failed to defeat the demon and that's why they're eating them.

I wonder if they're going to fight them in the next chapter.. or maybe ignore it completely and makes them their demons from get-go.

Shadow5YA · 2012-12-28, 16:11

Eh, might as well

Spoiler for manga to game comparison:

Kakkou · 2012-12-31, 02:41

I still haven't gotten around to playing this though I probably will start soon. Interesting that it's using the anime logo and the scenario's credited to Makoto Uezu. This prob means that the anime story will play out similarly if not the same as this. Looks like they might be going for a more P4A approach with the protags being able to summon the demons right away instead of beating them first.

bbsanchezi · 2012-12-31, 04:08

i agree with you,Pretty nice artwork. The DeSu2 MC looks a little closer to the P3MC now.thanks for your sharing,

Von Himmel · 2013-01-01, 21:26

That Byakko...

Seriously, I didn't expect that to happen

I like how this things are going

Kakkou · 2013-01-02, 05:59

Well I'm very confident the anime scenario will play out exactly like this now. Not sure if it's because I still haven't played this but I'm really loving the manga compared to Devil Survivor's.

Kusa-San · 2013-01-02, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Himmel

That Byakko...

Seriously, I didn't expect that to happen

I like how this things are going

Lol yeah, a Byakko so soon. It would habe been easier if it would have been the same in the game

Shadow5YA · 2013-01-02, 13:06

Forget the Byakko, quite a few scenes were skipped.

They were supposed to meet Joe before this happened. The way the fight against Dubhe worked and the death clip were not in the game either.

In the game, Daichi drives a truck off a platform into Dubhe, yes. However, there was no death clip for that. The idea was that the truck shielded and deflected Dubhe's explosion, removing the puffball on top and weakening it enough to where your party could finish it off on its own.

There was also no indication or plot device in the game that made the DeSu2 protagonist special or "the chosen one" either, yet the manga quite clearly seems to be heading that direction. In fact, elevating Hibiki to some unique status also contradicts the central theme behind the story that humanity as a whole can better themselves and avoid destruction. What saved them in the games was their combined efforts, not because the MC had unique powers compared to everyone else. This is not Devil Survivor 1.

At this point, it's clear that this manga will have a very different plot from the game.

Von Himmel · 2013-02-19, 18:21

New chapter is up.

That does it, the manga really has different plot than the game. Not that I hate it because retelling the same story would be boring

I don't really like how they make Hibiki so special in this manga, but maybe it's necessary to bring JPs into being interested in him in the first place.

Oh and did Yamato just told him the plot that's supposed to be mentioned in later days?

Dengar · 2013-02-22, 06:05

While I agree that events unfold differently from the game, that was inevitable from the beginning. The way the game is frameworked just doesn't work as well in a manga or anime. You don't have enough time to incorporate every little thing either.

Some bits of knowledge were revealed early as well. This is probably to draw in more readers/viewers. With a game, you can wait a bit longer with telling them what's going on since they'd already have bought the game. With a serial, you don't have that much luxury.

Finally, Re: Chosen One

While it's not explicitly stated as such in the game, in the story, the hero IS both the strongest, the most charismatic, and the one with the strongest will to live, which is why the Anguished One refers to him as Shining One.

2012-12-07, 04:40	Link #1
Kakkou Tch. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia	Devil Survivor 2 [Manga] Manga: Haruto Shioda (汐田晴人, unsure of reading) (Cerberus Jam) Announced along with the Devil Survivor 2 anime, it'll be serialised in Monthly G Fantasy starting from their January issue (on sale 18th December) ...The art looks better than the DeSu manga. Between this manga and the anime, the first game sure is getting the short end of the stick. ;__; Last edited by Kakkou; 2012-12-07 at 07:11.

2012-12-07, 20:28	Link #4
Mura Now or Never Join Date: Jan 2012 Age: 37	Very nice, since I haven't played the game I'll be on the lookout when it comes out. __________________

2012-12-28, 11:48	Link #5
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Oh yeah I forgot you've created this thread back then One thing that I noticed from the first chapter is that the MC and his friends doesn't need to defeat the demon to make the contract... still, that scene where the demons were eating humans seems to imply that they failed to defeat the demon and that's why they're eating them. I wonder if they're going to fight them in the next chapter.. or maybe ignore it completely and makes them their demons from get-go. __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2012-12-28, 16:11	Link #6
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Eh, might as well Spoiler for manga to game comparison: The first difference is that we actually get to see the protagonist (or Hibiki in the case) with his hoodie up -- something we never actually see in the game until the CG for the Yamato route ending. Boy, it looks sillier than the DeSu1 protagist's cat-ear headphones. The second change for the manga is that Hibiki and Daichi do not meet Io Nitta before the the earthquake and train disaster. In the game, Io comes to them to ask about exam questions, then exchange greetings and small talk before they finally see their Nicaea clip. I'm not sure how I feel about this change. Considering character relationship development is what affects their fates and contributes to the Daichi true ending, I always interpreted their first meeting as the first "flag" triggered for that. Finally, the manga seems to have changed the demon contracting process and the implications on how the main trio survived the collapsing train. In the game, while Tico-Tico does ask the protagonist whether he wants to survive and use the Demon Summing App, you see Obariyon already lifting the train and saving him before he makes his choice. The manga makes it seem like his choice changed the events with magic and made it seem like he was never under the falling train car in the first place. I don't really understand the point of this change either, since the initial fight for forming contracts with your first demon is pretty important in both Devil Survivor games. It's also an important plot point for what happens to Dera-Deka.

2013-01-01, 21:26	Link #9
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	That Byakko... Seriously, I didn't expect that to happen I like how this things are going __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2012-12-07, 08:55	Link #2
Insane Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Cairo, Egypt Age: 28	Hmm? I thought the artist of the manga was the same with Yozakura kuartet (Also the one handling the character design for the game version), but it seems i was wrong.

2012-12-31, 02:41	Link #7
Kakkou Tch. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia	I still haven't gotten around to playing this though I probably will start soon. Interesting that it's using the anime logo and the scenario's credited to Makoto Uezu. This prob means that the anime story will play out similarly if not the same as this. Looks like they might be going for a more P4A approach with the protags being able to summon the demons right away instead of beating them first.

2012-12-31, 04:08	Link #8
bbsanchezi Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012	i agree with you,Pretty nice artwork. The DeSu2 MC looks a little closer to the P3MC now.thanks for your sharing,

2013-01-02, 05:59	Link #10
Kakkou Tch. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia	Well I'm very confident the anime scenario will play out exactly like this now. Not sure if it's because I still haven't played this but I'm really loving the manga compared to Devil Survivor's. Last edited by Kakkou; 2013-01-02 at 09:43.

2013-01-02, 13:06	Link #12
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Forget the Byakko, quite a few scenes were skipped. They were supposed to meet Joe before this happened. The way the fight against Dubhe worked and the death clip were not in the game either. In the game, Daichi drives a truck off a platform into Dubhe, yes. However, there was no death clip for that. The idea was that the truck shielded and deflected Dubhe's explosion, removing the puffball on top and weakening it enough to where your party could finish it off on its own. There was also no indication or plot device in the game that made the DeSu2 protagonist special or "the chosen one" either, yet the manga quite clearly seems to be heading that direction. In fact, elevating Hibiki to some unique status also contradicts the central theme behind the story that humanity as a whole can better themselves and avoid destruction. What saved them in the games was their combined efforts, not because the MC had unique powers compared to everyone else. This is not Devil Survivor 1. At this point, it's clear that this manga will have a very different plot from the game. Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2013-01-02 at 13:17.

2013-02-19, 18:21	Link #13
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	New chapter is up. That does it, the manga really has different plot than the game. Not that I hate it because retelling the same story would be boring I don't really like how they make Hibiki so special in this manga, but maybe it's necessary to bring JPs into being interested in him in the first place. Oh and did Yamato just told him the plot that's supposed to be mentioned in later days? __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2013-02-22, 06:05	Link #14
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	While I agree that events unfold differently from the game, that was inevitable from the beginning. The way the game is frameworked just doesn't work as well in a manga or anime. You don't have enough time to incorporate every little thing either. Some bits of knowledge were revealed early as well. This is probably to draw in more readers/viewers. With a game, you can wait a bit longer with telling them what's going on since they'd already have bought the game. With a serial, you don't have that much luxury. Finally, Re: Chosen One While it's not explicitly stated as such in the game, in the story, the hero IS both the strongest, the most charismatic, and the one with the strongest will to live, which is why the Anguished One refers to him as Shining One.