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Old 2011-08-27, 10:08   Link #13721
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And I guess Mr Kyon just edited, because I can see this:
I've been editing this story for awhile, fixing typos and sorts.

But when I saw...that... Well, I had a brief psychotic episode.
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Old 2011-08-27, 10:11   Link #13722
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Well, you don't see me flipping behind my computer screen when I keep seeing 'realize' and other American English lol...
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Old 2011-08-27, 10:15   Link #13723
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I can't believe Vento is at the top.
I picked Vento....
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Old 2011-08-27, 10:35   Link #13724
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Canon or not, inconsistences are still inconsistences, just acept it and don't take it so seriously, didn't Kamachi said the Fanfare purpose was to introduce cyborgs?
No. Fanfare in itself didn't have an specific purpose. But it is after it was done that they said "hey, why not". It should be noted that within the novel the idea of cyborg was denied because of conceptual irregularities & unreliability (in vol 19, it isn't that long before NT1).

Speaking of that "level 0 talk", remember that the kanji for lvl 0 reads as "(person) without powers", so calling people outside the power curriculum program as such isn't necessarily wrong. Also lvl 0 should have aim and the like, otherwise Tsuchimikado wouldn't have "lost" his magic by being lvl 0 and Shiage would be able to learn magic (they already told him nay).

BTW, supposedly lvl 0s do have some powers (like, enough to bend a spoon for their school tests).
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Old 2011-08-27, 10:44   Link #13725
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Well, you don't see me flipping behind my computer screen when I keep seeing 'realize' and other American English lol...
IT'S DIFFERENT!!

Anyways...

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"More importantly, how is Amai's mass-produced Radio Noise plan?"

"Well, Amata's son is—"

"—"
I'm sure this will never come bite Accelerator or the clones in the ass.

[EPIC FORESHADOWING]

Edit: Wait a minute... Could they be refering to Accelerator...?

NO NO NO, JUNIOR IS CANON, JUNIOR IS CANON!!
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Old 2011-08-27, 10:48   Link #13726
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No. Fanfare in itself didn't have an specific purpose. But it is after it was done that they said "hey, why not". It should be noted that within the novel the idea of cyborg was denied because of conceptual irregularities & unreliability (in vol 19, it isn't that long before NT1).

Speaking of that "level 0 talk", remember that the kanji for lvl 0 reads as "(person) without powers", so calling people outside the power curriculum program as such isn't necessarily wrong. Also lvl 0 should have aim and the like, otherwise Tsuchimikado wouldn't have "lost" his magic by being lvl 0 and Shiage would be able to learn magic (they already told him nay).

BTW, supposedly lvl 0s do have some powers (like, enough to bend a spoon for their school tests).
Yeah but not all of them have powers to bend a spoon.
It goes from:
normal person < level 0 (nonexistent < passive < weak or hard to control powers < bending a spoon) < level 1...
The nonexistent case is when espers don't even know their ability nor are able to manifest it in any way.
(Note here: Level 0s would not be complaining that they don't have an ability if they had some.. btw to even bend a spoon you need an ability)

That's why I was not sure if Nayuta was really reffering to her as a normal person or that there are level 0 withou AIM at all.
But if you say that the Kanji is the same, then (considering the Japanese "means everything" synonyms) she probably just reffered to her as a normal person.
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Old 2011-08-27, 10:49   Link #13727
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Dear To Aru fan, another quick question:

Ok, after finishing NT2 a week ago i started to ponder and think why it took the author
like 5 month to finish this novel!. Don't get me wrong i Like it and everything but..... here is what i felt, thAT Kazuma Kamachi wanted a little break from writing and he found a popular fan fiction writer and ask to write a story where everything is re-cap and so forth and after the re-cap part is done and the castle come the fanfic writer switches with Kazuma Kamachi to finish the last chapter......I’m not hating or another here everybody but the thought came to my mind. i mean 5month to do a re-cap novel.

If any one has any thoughts or clue why that might be please reply , I’m always open to suggestion



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Yeah [Crimson] was false... Actually, it was the only false information we've got for NT2 right? What a huge improvement!

But I disagree that it would be a better name, [Gremlin] is unique while [Crimson] has become far too generic. Plus the poetic meaning for that name...




No cliff hanger, just an open ending.
OK, thanks Chaos2Frozaen, but open ending..hmm i bet there
won't be an mars ss 2 sad
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Old 2011-08-27, 10:53   Link #13728
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Don't forget, Kamachi-san still has Heavy Object. And if you think 5 months is long, pity the Haruhi fans...
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Old 2011-08-27, 12:03   Link #13729
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Wasn't it also said somewhere that Kamachi wrote NT2 and NT3 at the same time?
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Old 2011-08-27, 12:46   Link #13730
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That's why I was not sure if Nayuta was really reffering to her as a normal person or that there are level 0 withou AIM at all.
But if you say that the Kanji is the same, then (considering the Japanese "means everything" synonyms) she probably just reffered to her as a normal person.
Simple answers because the writer of the book aren't the same so inconsistency are bound to happen. Fanfare wasn't canon to begin with. It was only recognize canon with the release of NT 1.
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Old 2011-08-27, 13:27   Link #13731
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Wasn't it also said somewhere that Kamachi wrote NT2 and NT3 at the same time?
Designing the outline concepts =/= writing.
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Old 2011-08-27, 13:40   Link #13732
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Hey guys which do you like better? When characters are stuttering they either go with 'Wha-What' or 'Wha-what'. The only difference is the capitalization, but I figured that we should pick one of them for consistency throughout the Toaru LN.

A. Wha-What, N-No,Th-That

or

B. Wha-what, N-no, Th-that



Kamachi-sensei wrote NT1 and HEAVY OBJECT during his 4-5 month long break. NT3 isn't even out yet.....




P.S. Hurricane Irene is going to hit my region later today....I might lose power for awhile....
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Old 2011-08-27, 13:59   Link #13733
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Old 2011-08-27, 14:04   Link #13734
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Dear To Aru fan, another quick question:

Ok, after finishing NT2 a week ago i started to ponder and think why it took the author
like 5 month to finish this novel!. Don't get me wrong i Like it and everything but..... here is what i felt, thAT Kazuma Kamachi wanted a little break from writing and he found a popular fan fiction writer and ask to write a story where everything is re-cap and so forth and after the re-cap part is done and the castle come the fanfic writer switches with Kazuma Kamachi to finish the last chapter......I’m not hating or another here everybody but the thought came to my mind. i mean 5month to do a re-cap novel.

If any one has any thoughts or clue why that might be please reply , I’m always open to suggestion





OK, thanks Chaos2Frozaen, but open ending..hmm i bet there
won't be an mars ss 2 sad

Here in Sweden some TRANSLATIONS take half a year to do(with additional delays afterwards). Yes I'm looking at you keeper of the swords series.
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Old 2011-08-27, 14:56   Link #13735
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A. Wha-What, N-No,Th-That

or

B. Wha-what, N-no, Th-that
I vote B. 10charlimit
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Old 2011-08-27, 15:16   Link #13736
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I heard somewhere that a level 0 AIM can screw a mage over, but I don't know if it was stated somewhere in LN or just made up.
Made up, definitely made up.

Lets assume this is somehow possible- The Level 0 has to be humping the magician or something to be close enough to have any effect, and it's a two way street- he would be also be affected by the magic.

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Dear To Aru fan, another quick question:

Ok, after finishing NT2 a week ago i started to ponder and think why it took the author
like 5 month to finish this novel!. Don't get me wrong i Like it and everything but..... here is what i felt, thAT Kazuma Kamachi wanted a little break from writing and he found a popular fan fiction writer and ask to write a story where everything is re-cap and so forth and after the re-cap part is done and the castle come the fanfic writer switches with Kazuma Kamachi to finish the last chapter......I’m not hating or another here everybody but the thought came to my mind. i mean 5month to do a re-cap novel.

If any one has any thoughts or clue why that might be please reply , I’m always open to suggestion

Lol, 5 months is long? You've been spoiled for too long... Haruhi was on hiatus for 2 years plus....

Plus if you look at the past release dates, the second and third volumes to be released every year are very close to each other, taking only two months give or take implying that both volumes are written at the same time.
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Old 2011-08-27, 15:18   Link #13737
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Why Nayuta concluded, that Dorm Manager is a level 0, when she didn't saw any AIM field?
Shouldn't she say "normal person" there?
Or does this mean level 0 without any powers developed (Saten, Shiage..) don't have any AIM field?
My Chinese version was saying something like "How can someone even weaker than a Level 0 defeat a Level 5?", basically...
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Yeah but not all of them have powers to bend a spoon.
It goes from:
normal person < level 0 (nonexistent < passive < weak or hard to control powers < bending a spoon) < level 1...
The nonexistent case is when espers don't even know their ability nor are able to manifest it in any way.
(Note here: Level 0s would not be complaining that they don't have an ability if they had some.. btw to even bend a spoon you need an ability)

That's why I was not sure if Nayuta was really reffering to her as a normal person or that there are level 0 withou AIM at all.
But if you say that the Kanji is the same, then (considering the Japanese "means everything" synonyms) she probably just reffered to her as a normal person.
Basically, this.
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Old 2011-08-27, 15:20   Link #13738
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^Then shouldn't we add a footnote to highlight this for readers?
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Old 2011-08-27, 15:38   Link #13739
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Hey guys which do you like better? When characters are stuttering they either go with 'Wha-What' or 'Wha-what'. The only difference is the capitalization, but I figured that we should pick one of them for consistency throughout the Toaru LN.

A. Wha-What, N-No,Th-That

or

B. Wha-what, N-no, Th-that
I also vote B.

But, I think it should be W-what. (I've never heard anyone stuttering Wha-what.)
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Old 2011-08-27, 17:06   Link #13740
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I also vote B.

But, I think it should be W-what. (I've never heard anyone stuttering Wha-what.)
Actually stuttering is just one example of those, it also happens when characters are flustered, embarrassed, extremely shocked, and etc..
Spoiler for Volume 16 epilogue:

Spoiler for NT2 chapter 1:


And there's plenty more such instances with Kanzaki, Itsuwa, Mikoto, and other characters due to one of those reasons I mentioned above. They are not all stuttering since sometimes characters have trouble speaking when they're flustered like Kanzaki. I prefer B, but I'll go with A if the sentence starts 'N-No!' or something similar to that like 'A-At'.

W-what or Wha-what, either works I guess. But I'm a bit reluctant to that change since it originally said "Wha, what!" The various editors changed that into "Wha-what!" over time.


Btw are we finally going with Romaji names instead of the officially released names, I saw a few changes on Toaru's name guidelines on B-T like Oriana Thomason is now Oriana Thomson. Is this change final...?


Oriana Thomason -> Oriana Thomson
Sasha Croitsef -> Sasha Kreutzev
Misha Croitsef -> Misha Kreutzev
Vasilissa -> Vasilisa


P.S. Kyon make an account already, sheesh. ("But that Electromaster Missy really has some guys." Most hilarious typo evar?) LOOOOOL, I agree.
Fixed sentence is now: "But that Electromaster Missy really has some guts" thanks to Kyon.

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