2011-06-29, 05:53 | Link #1101 | |
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However, a lot of people are saying the economic logic is flawed to the point where even watching casually causes disbelief. My viewing experience was not so, but I cannot say very much in my defense, as I cannot speak for anyone else's viewing experience. I will leave the discussion with one last comment. There are parts of the anime which don't add up logically if one were to envision the world of [C] as even the least bit representative of our own world. From the very first episode, I held no standards or expectations for the plot to make sense in context of economic theory. However, I did expect the characters to feel emotions, just as people normally do. I was able to accept whatever flawed logic was presented because I believed the characters were acting true to their own ideas. While I appreciate when the logic is as plausible as the person who says it, I realize I can still enjoy pseudo-intellectual anime like [C] without logical consistency. Even so, I believe it's reasonable for others to make common sense a requirement of good anime. |
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2011-07-06, 22:42 | Link #1103 | |
If only you were brave.
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2011-07-08, 22:19 | Link #1104 |
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What the fuck. Just finished this. Why is it so hard to get a satisfactory ending from a show? The fight was awesome but that epilogue just confused the crap out of me. So he gets transported to a future Japan where coincidentally he doesn't interact with anyone and some person that looks like Hanabi is living in her house. Seriously?
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2011-07-08, 22:48 | Link #1105 | |
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The Hanabi you know from the series is not the Hanabi at the end of the series. It's a different girl that we see. Technically, we don't even know the girl at the end is named "Hanabi".
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2011-07-10, 00:21 | Link #1107 | |
just passing by
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2011-07-11, 20:04 | Link #1109 | |
Waiting for more taiyuki!
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Think of it as everybody got their futures back which rewrote lots of possibilities to the point that "Hanabi" isn't the original "Hanabi" anymore. We saw someone that looked a little like "Hanabi" but could also have been Msyu due to the camera angle shot that was used was similar to Q's shot near the end and the voice was similar to Msyu.
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2011-07-23, 12:17 | Link #1111 |
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Just got around to watch the last episode . I'll say, good fight indeed, but the ending was a bit... confusing. Wouldn't call it a Downer Ending though, but I wish they'd come up with something else .
On the whole, I liked this series . As a friend of mine says, C managed to make such a "boring" subject such as economics into something interesting and fun - even if they did so though "pokemon battles" . |
2011-07-25, 18:06 | Link #1112 |
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surprised to see a few austrian economists here.. breath of fresh air among usual anime watchers.. good work hamstar and a few others.. however many minds you manage to save among even more countless brain-dead teen pure entertainment chasers--props to you. "prefer to enjoy this show without the economics".. lmao.. die hard shounen fanboys make it seem like the economic fight isn't for them, when they will graduate into it in but a few years time. i would grab popcorn n soda and watch how they survive--now that's an anime show.
btw interesting trivia Mi·das /ˈmaɪdəs/ Show Spelled[mahy-duhs] Show IPA –noun 1. Classical Mythology . a Phrygian king, son of Gordius, who was given by Dionysus the power of turning whatever he touched into gold. i think director's intentional metaphor in making a parallel currency comparison/commodity standard is quite clear. Last edited by jtstellar; 2011-07-25 at 18:16. |
2011-07-26, 03:59 | Link #1113 | |
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2011-07-26, 05:36 | Link #1114 |
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For those who think that [C] is rather deep plot-wise, you could read more about its philosophies here:
http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2...ard-and-hegel/
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2011-07-26, 07:33 | Link #1115 |
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Location: In a cruel yet beautiful world
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I FINALLY got around to watching the end of this (I had stopped at episode 7 due to school, so I just sat through epis 8-11).
The ending was fine up until that epilogue. So many loose ends left hanging. Horrible. It's like, if you're not going to show what happened to various people, why even bother? Ugh... That aside, the kiss between Mysu and Kimi was really cute. I love the song they used. It gave it the perfect build-up and overall feel I think it should've had (although the engrish of the lyrics that followed were kind of lol). Kinda mad that it didn't show their faces, but at the same time, I think it was a unique shot they chose. Jennifer's tear/laugh was confusing? It's like wtf is wrong with her? Lol. I also wish they had elaborated more on what Q's feelings were (not just during the end, but throughout the course of the series). During the battle, she was so pissed at Mysu's words, but before she disappears she's gentle and says she wants to be by Mikuni's side? What? All of that aside, I liked the entire battle of Kimi vs Mikuni. It very cool-looking. All of Mysu's attacks were exceptionally awesome in epis 10 & 11. But it does not make up for that ultra lackluster (and frankly, stupid) ending. |
2011-08-02, 00:52 | Link #1116 | |
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i invest for a living. if there's some hardcore econ material this anime can present without childish fights that someone can sit through, then i can. don't worry about the fights. that's not what i'm talking about. |
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2011-09-01, 18:52 | Link #1117 |
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I wish the anime had received two seasons, because such an awesome plot needed more episodes. And I'm a bit disappointed with the level of discussion in the last few pages; I'm really sorry I missed the debate, but maybe it was for the better.
At first I too thought that the main goal of the series was to criticize the central banking system, but the "invisible hand" that saved the day in the end changed my mind. What was in focus was actually futures trading, and future was C's main theme. It spoke to me about Japan's massive public debt (although financed at low interest rates) that's going to bury the future of younger generations, and the whole anti-youth atmosphere in Japan, where seniors rule over familial, political, and corporate matters with sheer numbers. What Kimimaro did was basically buy back the future that was being spent on the present state. The Rotary Press and Mikuni trying to keep his brain-dead sister alive is the perfect metaphor for this. The OST is simply brilliant, and I'm sad the animation department wasn't up to its level. "Bondage head" is an awesome track. Does anyone have a clue as to what the male shout squad is repeating in the background? BTW, I laughed my ass off when I heard Japan was the first country in the world to trade with futures contracts in an organized manner. |
2011-09-08, 13:05 | Link #1118 |
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Bah i forgot to at least post a review of this show. So i forgot half of what i was going to say. I do remember it being pretty nice but the ending was too fu*ked up and depressing tho it wasn't necessarily a kill ending. Its what Yoga lost in the end that i found depressing even tho the director didn't try to really present it in that way, they did it unintentionally to me.
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