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Bandersnatch · 2004-03-16, 20:08

I heard rumors that they are doing an American version of Battle Royale or something that follows the basic storyline. Has anyone heard anything like this? Im sure it would be crap and that it would star "teens" who are really in their late 20's but still it would be cool to go laugh at how crappy it is compared to the real one. Ugh...can you imagine what it would become once Hollywood got its hands on it?

megazone23 · 2004-03-16, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Darktan

i wonder if u talk about Kitano's movie.
If so there is actually an official release on dvd support in France, with franch subtitles. Would be really a shame if this movie can't be found in an eng-sub.

Now i may mistake, and confuse with an anime called battle royal, but so far with your discribes I don't feel wrong

I don't know about the first one, but I know that they've been released the second one on DVD. Well, in Hong Kong anyway. I don't have the DVD versions, but I have the VCD versions of both of them. Japanese voices and both Chinese and English subtitles on the bottom. (no, not bootleg. All Hong Kong-released movies (especially all of them from HK themselves) have the standard of putting both Chinese and English subtitles on the bottom)

Actually, they have it at amazon.com (I just checked)

Prince of Chronics · 2004-03-16, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Bandersnatch

I heard rumors that they are doing an American version of Battle Royale or something that follows the basic storyline. Has anyone heard anything like this? Im sure it would be crap and that it would star "teens" who are really in their late 20's but still it would be cool to go laugh at how crappy it is compared to the real one. Ugh...can you imagine what it would become once Hollywood got its hands on it?

i agree that a hollywood version wouldn't be that great.... but... i doubt it will even be made.... considering those tragic highschool events that happened in america in the past... i doubt that the premise of battle royale would be even approved...

i've noticed parents get worked up on letal enforcers and grand theft auto 3... which are only videogames... i could just imagine the outrage if they made battle royale a hollywood movie...

Darktan · 2004-03-17, 12:05

yes your totally right, they have not fixed the problem yet with the tragedy of Columbine. Indeed it would be shocking for many american lobbys.

Bandersnatch · 2004-03-17, 14:46

I agree it would be quite shocking and that there would be alot of outrage because of it, but the shock value would sell tickets. Take for example the new movie The Passion of the Christ with its supossed anti-Semitism. I wonder how many people went just to judge for themselves whether it was or not. In my case, the controversy surrounding Battle Royale is what drew me in. I had heard that it was quite controversial in Japan and I heard the premise and I just had to see it for myself. The same goes for Ichi the Killer. But in the end I doubt anyone would have the balls to do the movie unless they tweak the story so its adults on the island instead of kids.

Mr_Paper · 2004-03-17, 15:12

I think Battle Royale would loss it's edge if they tweaked the story
and made all the characters adults. The main controversy over Battle
Royale was the premise of the movie; a class of ninth graders are
stuck on an island and have to kill each other off. This is because, in
most societies, the thought of a group of fourteen and fifteen year
olds being able to commit such acts (much less enjoy them) is simply
impossible. No parent would want to see a movie where it showed
that their child is perfectly able to kill if 'motivated' correctly. The
very concept of the movie challenged many preconceived social rules
about how we look at young adults.

If you were to make all the characters into adults, that element would
be lost. It would become just another over-budget, Hollywood slasher
flick and I'm sick of those (how many Jason movies are there again?).

On side note, Ichi the Killer is a great movie but I didn't care for the
OVAs that much. The soundtrack and dailogue consist primarily of
the main character screaming over and over and over and .... you
get the idea.

Naruto2k · 2004-03-17, 17:28

The Battle Royale movies is the best!
They are my favorite. Shuya Nanahara rocks!

It would be cool if they made a game out of it. (doubt they will)

Hi_There · 2004-03-17, 23:32

The first was a pretty 'more to the point' movie and I enjoyed it, but I hated the second movie-bored the hell out of me.

The manga is IMO quite superior, if you can handle the material.

fenrihr · 2004-03-18, 00:17

i could see a major studio making an 'americanized' version and completely screwing it up....
i could also see a major studio actually doing it right if they didn't pop-culturize it.

AoshiOniwaban · 2004-03-18, 04:30

Lets just say they both were good lol

Hi_There · 2004-03-18, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by AoshiOniwaban

Lets just say they both were good lol

-if ur talking about the movies...

I wish I could agree but the second movie BLOWS HARD!!!... IMO

***POSSIBLE SPOILERS***

I was rooting for missiles to destroy that island before any of them could escape. I was also hoping for the first Teacher's daughter to pull the trigger on Shuya.

AoshiOniwaban · 2004-03-19, 01:34

If you were rooting for Kitano's daughter to kill Shuya then whats the point in the movie? The point in the movie was that Shuya was waging war against the adults for commiting a crime on them. They killed students because they were bad. So he made the Wild Seven to fight back against them... So I'd say I wanted to see Shuya blow the fuck out of Kitano's daughter and that other guy who looks like Kiriyama.

mightyme · 2004-03-19, 03:29

Iw as a bit elt down by the movie.. haven't read the manga.. but I LOVED the book.... and so much from the book was missing in the movie... alot of the relationship between the 3 main characetrs was lost.... the real point to the main villain (being compeltely emotionless.... which is a REAL psychological disorder, my sister has a BA is psyhcology and was discussing the book with me... she read my copy when she was bored) was completely lost..

certain key action scenes were sadly missing (like hiroki fighting the bad kid)....

shinji wasn;t nearlya s cool as he was in the book....

I just felt it was a major let down...

the only scene they did just nearly perfect was the lighthouse scene.. and then they rushed past everything that followed the destruction

AoshiOniwaban · 2004-03-19, 15:20

Well I never really got to read the book. Because it was either to expensive to buy or I just don't want to waste my cash on it. But i'll borrow my friends book to find out the whole story in BR. All I know is that in BR 1 that was teh best. And Kiriyama's psychoness was a psychological disorder? I thought it was because he joined for the killing... And Kawada, Shuya, and Noriko. Whats between them? And does it explain why Kawada was in the first one? lol..

mightyme · 2004-03-19, 20:44

ok... here

Spoiler:

in the book, Kazuo was not a transfer student he was for the richest house in town, and was in an accident as a child which caused dammage to I think his frontal lobe.. which basicallys tripepd him of emotion... he ended up in a gang, and the leader of it... (the people he killed by the cliff.. in the book, they were his gang)... but he kileld of fhis entire gang after deciding to play the game on a coin toss, he had decided with himself that he could either escape, help his gang escape, and end the entire game.... or play the game through.... and he decided to play based on a coin toss.... in the book he never smiles.... he just walks around ruthlesslly and methodically killing everything in his path, without excitement, regret, anything... like a machine...

and Kawada (shogo) in the book he had survived the last battle royale (not 3 years ago) but had injuries that layed him out for almost a year.... he got a very very small pension a card autographed by the dictator, and a transfer to another school, because he missed so much, he had to repeat the grade, and ended up in the program again (sucks to be him), but they also hint that he might have invaded the program and hacked the computer systems finding out about the colars, and which class would eb selected, and then moving himself to that class...

also in the book shogo transfered a while before the program, but had no friends, was generaly feared because in gym class when he took off his shirt he had heavy scars (from being in the program)

in the book they kind of tell how shogo used to have long hair like shuya, and was in to rock, and his grielfriend (keiko) was a bit different, he failed to protect in the program (he saw her twice, once alive, once dead), shuya and noriko were liek this games evrsion of shogo and keiko to shogo.... and that's why he helped them.... he would at first get on shuya's nerves ebcause he seemed so cold and callous, about helping other people, but as shuya grew up a bit, he realized that shogo just udnerstood the game.... so there was this much more personal relationship between the 3.... shogo reallye arned their trusts on many occasions

hope that helps a bit.....

just think fo the movie was 25 hours long.... and every sharacter had a bit of depth, and the main characetrs had a good 10 times the depth they do in the movie then you know what the book is....

all but a few deaths have liek an entire chapter showing how that character played the game, who they liked (most of the girls liked shuya, most of the guys liked takako and mitsuko), what there life wa sliek abck at home, etc..etc....

and there were some horrifyingly tragic moments,a s well as some satisfying ina d ark way moments becaus eof it...

for instance.... there was a character who felt so proud of himself and felt superior because he could play violin very well and was considered a prodigy, he hated shuya for gettign the attention of the girls with what eh felt was basic guitar playing, and hated the girls for being stupid and liking shuya.. basically he was horribly bitter.... when kazuo kileld him (in the movie he was the decapiated head with grenade in mouth), there was a little blurp about how kazuo had mastered playing the violin years ago.. far beyond what this other kid had, and then threw his violin in the trash....

which is mroe on kazuo.. with no emotions he is bascally good at everything.... because he is patient and calm.... he is a skilled martial artist, and a prodigy on his instrument, they even recalled him beign a skilled artist

AoshiOniwaban · 2004-03-20, 04:00

So wait.. Kiriyama had a gang.. But based on a coin toss.. He chose to play throughout that game and kill everyone? What the.. Lol.. Sort of insane if you ask me.. And that whole thing about his frontal lobe damage.. Could that really happen.. Cause if it can I wanna test it.. >=) Become the next Kiriyama. BWAHAHA Lol but possibility of death? 90% >_<! Oh well overall.. I read half of the book.. Hehehe.. Good book but gets boring after 2 hours of nonstop reading.. Oh well I rate it 7/10 so far

AoshiOniwaban · 2004-03-20, 21:31

Anyone know where I can just read it from the net? I mean a internet site where they have the whole book.. And stuff.. Lol.... My friend grabbed the book back from me.. -_-

Sabin · 2004-03-21, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Paper

It's not subtitled, unfortunately, but you can purchase the movie from this site.

If you like that, I'd recommend this. I've been meaning to get this one for a while
now, the Battle Royale collar alone would make it worth it.

Oh, any version of the movie with subtitles is a bootleg and I'd suggest avoiding those.

Actually you can get a legit copy with subs in most European countries and there is an NTSC version that you can find pretty easily in North America as well.

These links may be of interest to you

http://www.battleroyalefilm.net/video/db1.html

http://www.battleroyalefilm.net/video/tartanntsc.html

I have teh NTSC version though this page reports that Tartan has stopped producing it.

mightyme · 2004-03-22, 03:32

Spoiler:

e2- · 2004-03-22, 08:07

plz dont spoil

2004-03-17, 14:46	Link #45
Bandersnatch Gantz Survivor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kamogawa Gym Age: 39	I agree it would be quite shocking and that there would be alot of outrage because of it, but the shock value would sell tickets. Take for example the new movie The Passion of the Christ with its supossed anti-Semitism. I wonder how many people went just to judge for themselves whether it was or not. In my case, the controversy surrounding Battle Royale is what drew me in. I had heard that it was quite controversial in Japan and I heard the premise and I just had to see it for myself. The same goes for Ichi the Killer. But in the end I doubt anyone would have the balls to do the movie unless they tweak the story so its adults on the island instead of kids. __________________ Shun me, for I am frumious!

2004-03-17, 15:12	Link #46
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	I think Battle Royale would loss it's edge if they tweaked the story and made all the characters adults. The main controversy over Battle Royale was the premise of the movie; a class of ninth graders are stuck on an island and have to kill each other off. This is because, in most societies, the thought of a group of fourteen and fifteen year olds being able to commit such acts (much less enjoy them) is simply impossible. No parent would want to see a movie where it showed that their child is perfectly able to kill if 'motivated' correctly. The very concept of the movie challenged many preconceived social rules about how we look at young adults. If you were to make all the characters into adults, that element would be lost. It would become just another over-budget, Hollywood slasher flick and I'm sick of those (how many Jason movies are there again?). On side note, Ichi the Killer is a great movie but I didn't care for the OVAs that much. The soundtrack and dailogue consist primarily of the main character screaming over and over and over and .... you get the idea. Last edited by Mr_Paper; 2004-03-17 at 15:17. Reason: Accursed SUBMIT button!!

2004-03-19, 20:44	Link #55
mightyme Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	ok... here Spoiler: in the book, Kazuo was not a transfer student he was for the richest house in town, and was in an accident as a child which caused dammage to I think his frontal lobe.. which basicallys tripepd him of emotion... he ended up in a gang, and the leader of it... (the people he killed by the cliff.. in the book, they were his gang)... but he kileld of fhis entire gang after deciding to play the game on a coin toss, he had decided with himself that he could either escape, help his gang escape, and end the entire game.... or play the game through.... and he decided to play based on a coin toss.... in the book he never smiles.... he just walks around ruthlesslly and methodically killing everything in his path, without excitement, regret, anything... like a machine... and Kawada (shogo) in the book he had survived the last battle royale (not 3 years ago) but had injuries that layed him out for almost a year.... he got a very very small pension a card autographed by the dictator, and a transfer to another school, because he missed so much, he had to repeat the grade, and ended up in the program again (sucks to be him), but they also hint that he might have invaded the program and hacked the computer systems finding out about the colars, and which class would eb selected, and then moving himself to that class... also in the book shogo transfered a while before the program, but had no friends, was generaly feared because in gym class when he took off his shirt he had heavy scars (from being in the program) in the book they kind of tell how shogo used to have long hair like shuya, and was in to rock, and his grielfriend (keiko) was a bit different, he failed to protect in the program (he saw her twice, once alive, once dead), shuya and noriko were liek this games evrsion of shogo and keiko to shogo.... and that's why he helped them.... he would at first get on shuya's nerves ebcause he seemed so cold and callous, about helping other people, but as shuya grew up a bit, he realized that shogo just udnerstood the game.... so there was this much more personal relationship between the 3.... shogo reallye arned their trusts on many occasions hope that helps a bit..... just think fo the movie was 25 hours long.... and every sharacter had a bit of depth, and the main characetrs had a good 10 times the depth they do in the movie then you know what the book is.... all but a few deaths have liek an entire chapter showing how that character played the game, who they liked (most of the girls liked shuya, most of the guys liked takako and mitsuko), what there life wa sliek abck at home, etc..etc.... and there were some horrifyingly tragic moments,a s well as some satisfying ina d ark way moments becaus eof it... for instance.... there was a character who felt so proud of himself and felt superior because he could play violin very well and was considered a prodigy, he hated shuya for gettign the attention of the girls with what eh felt was basic guitar playing, and hated the girls for being stupid and liking shuya.. basically he was horribly bitter.... when kazuo kileld him (in the movie he was the decapiated head with grenade in mouth), there was a little blurp about how kazuo had mastered playing the violin years ago.. far beyond what this other kid had, and then threw his violin in the trash.... which is mroe on kazuo.. with no emotions he is bascally good at everything.... because he is patient and calm.... he is a skilled martial artist, and a prodigy on his instrument, they even recalled him beign a skilled artist Last edited by mightyme; 2004-03-22 at 18:37.

2004-03-22, 03:32	Link #59
mightyme Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Spoiler: yeah kiriyama is MUCH cooler in the book.. and wait til you get to the good part with shinji, right before kiriyama kills him... I was so hooked I couldn;t stop reading and got like 2 hours of sleep before an 8 hour day at work hahahaha Last edited by mightyme; 2004-03-22 at 11:11.

2004-03-16, 20:08	Link #41
Bandersnatch Gantz Survivor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kamogawa Gym Age: 39	I heard rumors that they are doing an American version of Battle Royale or something that follows the basic storyline. Has anyone heard anything like this? Im sure it would be crap and that it would star "teens" who are really in their late 20's but still it would be cool to go laugh at how crappy it is compared to the real one. Ugh...can you imagine what it would become once Hollywood got its hands on it?

2004-03-17, 12:05	Link #44
Darktan Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: French Riviera	yes your totally right, they have not fixed the problem yet with the tragedy of Columbine. Indeed it would be shocking for many american lobbys.

2004-03-17, 17:28	Link #47
Naruto2k Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norway Age: 33	The Battle Royale movies is the best! They are my favorite. Shuya Nanahara rocks! It would be cool if they made a game out of it. (doubt they will)

2004-03-17, 23:32	Link #48
Hi_There Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Age: 40	The first was a pretty 'more to the point' movie and I enjoyed it, but I hated the second movie-bored the hell out of me. The manga is IMO quite superior, if you can handle the material.

2004-03-18, 00:17	Link #49
fenrihr is dime-a-dozen Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rich., VA	i could see a major studio making an 'americanized' version and completely screwing it up.... i could also see a major studio actually doing it right if they didn't pop-culturize it.

2004-03-18, 04:30	Link #50
AoshiOniwaban Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	Lets just say they both were good lol

2004-03-19, 01:34	Link #52
AoshiOniwaban Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	If you were rooting for Kitano's daughter to kill Shuya then whats the point in the movie? The point in the movie was that Shuya was waging war against the adults for commiting a crime on them. They killed students because they were bad. So he made the Wild Seven to fight back against them... So I'd say I wanted to see Shuya blow the fuck out of Kitano's daughter and that other guy who looks like Kiriyama.

2004-03-19, 03:29	Link #53
mightyme Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Iw as a bit elt down by the movie.. haven't read the manga.. but I LOVED the book.... and so much from the book was missing in the movie... alot of the relationship between the 3 main characetrs was lost.... the real point to the main villain (being compeltely emotionless.... which is a REAL psychological disorder, my sister has a BA is psyhcology and was discussing the book with me... she read my copy when she was bored) was completely lost.. certain key action scenes were sadly missing (like hiroki fighting the bad kid).... shinji wasn;t nearlya s cool as he was in the book.... I just felt it was a major let down... the only scene they did just nearly perfect was the lighthouse scene.. and then they rushed past everything that followed the destruction

2004-03-19, 15:20	Link #54
AoshiOniwaban Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	Well I never really got to read the book. Because it was either to expensive to buy or I just don't want to waste my cash on it. But i'll borrow my friends book to find out the whole story in BR. All I know is that in BR 1 that was teh best. And Kiriyama's psychoness was a psychological disorder? I thought it was because he joined for the killing... And Kawada, Shuya, and Noriko. Whats between them? And does it explain why Kawada was in the first one? lol..

2004-03-20, 04:00	Link #56
AoshiOniwaban Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	So wait.. Kiriyama had a gang.. But based on a coin toss.. He chose to play throughout that game and kill everyone? What the.. Lol.. Sort of insane if you ask me.. And that whole thing about his frontal lobe damage.. Could that really happen.. Cause if it can I wanna test it.. >=) Become the next Kiriyama. BWAHAHA Lol but possibility of death? 90% >_<! Oh well overall.. I read half of the book.. Hehehe.. Good book but gets boring after 2 hours of nonstop reading.. Oh well I rate it 7/10 so far

2004-03-20, 21:31	Link #57
AoshiOniwaban Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	Anyone know where I can just read it from the net? I mean a internet site where they have the whole book.. And stuff.. Lol.... My friend grabbed the book back from me.. -_-

2004-03-22, 08:07	Link #60
e2- Genius! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Finland Age: 38	plz dont spoil