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LKK · 2011-08-04, 19:00

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Originally Posted by hanashi

Did anyone else think that Tokizane was a little too distraught? I don't think he was faking, but even if you assume that he's liked her for a while, his response didn't seem proportionate.

I agree. On the surface, Tokizane overreacted. My theory is that like Daddy, Cafe-guy, and teacher, he knows what's happened to Saya. But unlike the others who have other interests (possibilities: saving townsfolk, conducting an experiment), he seems to be solely concerned with Saya's well-being.

wandering-dreamer · 2011-08-04, 19:02

Spoiler for episode 5:

Wshadow · 2011-08-04, 21:36

Here we are, the turning point.

Saya stoped singing, she forgot to drink coffee (then Guimauve-kun went for her), no happy school comedy time...

Also, the music changed a lot, just when we were getting used to it. it's a whole different mood, I was "SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN IN THIS EPISODE"ing since the begining.

To me, it looks like the priest is giving the bow to the monster.

Priest->Daddy
Bow->Sword
Monster->Saya

There you have it... I'm thinking Saya is the human's plan...

Saya fights, the Furukimono think they are in jeopardy, they agree with the "Covennant". (They would kill just the necessary for survival, no more)

Then they force Saya to eliminate everyone.

DezoPenguin · 2011-08-04, 21:57

Spoiler for Episode 5:

Tenza-Zangetsu · 2011-08-04, 23:24

"i sense plot development"
from what the preview showed, we are in for a massacre next episode

Sol Falling · 2011-08-05, 00:09

lol, it's pretty amusing watching this show with real-time comments. Made a good episode even better. I've got no complaints, really; show is delivering an entertaining experience every week. Looking forward to the next episode.

hanashi · 2011-08-05, 00:50

Hmm, so I watched it again and Fumito somehow manages to be even creepier, and coupled with his whole "Tell me everything" which I read as "Rely only on me," it's even worse. He's seriously giving off molester uncle vibes.

I think it's cute that Saya is starting to notice Tokizane. Even though she was wrong, because Yuka also calls her by her name without honorifics. It's cute and I'd rather see her blushing over him than her father. I'm still not sure that Tokizane knows about her. Before episode 4, I would have said yes, but after 4 and 5, I can't tell. He doesn't look at her until after she gasps at the story and then it looks like he's thinking that she looks unwell rather than "Saya fights those man-eating beasties." I still can't get over his weirdly disproportionate reaction to her collapsing. She fainted, it's not like she was dying.

So many questions! If CLAMP doesn't explain this properly, I will kayak across the Pacific Ocean and shake the answers out of them.

So it looked like we got a few new/clear pictures in the flashback. I remember the train but I believe this is the first shot we have of something, presumably some beastie, approaching it. So now we know where the bloodstain came from.

I'm really curious about the signpost. It has mountains in the background, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's their current location. I thought it might be something from BtLV, but when I googled Nakasuwa, the only thing that came up was a neighborhood on the opposite coast of the Yokota Air Base. I can't make out the towns at the bottom.

Spoiler for Flashback stills:

Sorry about the images. They're from the LQ release, although some of the blurriness is intentional flashback blur.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2011-08-05, 01:19

It's pretty much Clamp's pattern from various anime they're involved in; it SEEMS slow and repetitious, but it slowly, but surely, if subtly, shifts mood as it gets darker or at least develops the story; Angelic Layer, Chobits, Cardcaptor Sakura, Magic Knight Rayearth, etc.

And here it's been happening again.

Ziziphus · 2011-08-05, 01:20

And the plot thickens, like many of us expected.

Something I noticed from the last two eps: the attacked villagers didn't run too far away from the scene. It's like they asked to be attacked again.

In ep 4, one of them was injured so that may be the reason they couldn't run far. But this ep? When they showed the woman for the second time, sitting there, scared to death I thought: "Wait, you're still there? I thought you ran far far away."

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

~~User165949~~ · 2011-08-05, 01:38

nice little graphic little touches here and there, e.g.:

- the face of the dog with a lighter colour at the center of the frame makes the brief scene more hypnotic - helped by the sfx

- the teacher has a curious pendant ;-)

Quarkboy · 2011-08-05, 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanashi

Thoughts after the first watch:

Wow, Guimauvre-kun. You're really trying to break your own records for creepiness, aren't you?

'nushi' again. It's interesting that the studio wanted 'covenant' used as the translation. The dictionary says that one its meanings is 'guardian spirit.'

You're confused here. Covenant is a translation of "yakujou" (約定), which means "fixed agreement/contract" (i.e. covenant).
Nushi 主 is just an old fashioned way of saying "you" in this context.

Nina.Wolken · 2011-08-05, 03:09

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Originally Posted by wxyz

- the teacher has a curious pendant ;-)

Noticed it too, but wouldn't say it's curious. Looks like your common magatama : a Shinto talisman of good fortune.

Kismet-chan · 2011-08-05, 04:39

Oh God, that episode preview was cruel. The show is finally going somewhere. Can't wait for the next epi.

Hooves · 2011-08-05, 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziziphus

And the plot thickens, like many of us expected.

Something I noticed from the last two eps: the attacked villagers didn't run too far away from the scene. It's like they asked to be attacked again.

In ep 4, one of them was injured so that may be the reason they couldn't run far. But this ep? When they showed the woman for the second time, sitting there, scared to death I thought: "Wait, you're still there? I thought you ran far far away."

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

I was pretty curious on that myself

It was pretty clear that they were running out of fear from Saya. Yet they still stuck around it seems near the ending of the fight just to run yet again when Saya tries to approahc them.

Faerie · 2011-08-05, 08:56

Oh god, I thought Nene was going to get beheaded right there and then the second that thing showed up :s

Anyone else think that the dog looks like Tokizane-kun? It's the eyes...

I'm hooked now.

katsumi · 2011-08-05, 09:24

It's moving, it's moving! The little tidbits of storytelling seem to be put together from now on, I really liked this episode.

The preview dialogue left me wondering, if the twins are even human or just one of those elder bairn thingies masquerading as humans...would explain their creepiness factor

although they're not as creepy as Guimauve-kun....

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanashi

So many questions! If CLAMP doesn't explain this properly, I will kayak across the Pacific Ocean and shake the answers out of them.

I'll join you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkullFaerie

Anyone else think that the dog looks like Tokizane-kun? It's the eyes...

yeah, I thought so while watching the first episodes, too. Not this time though.

Kanon · 2011-08-05, 09:30

The way Saya finished off the monster of the week made me cringe. Ewww.

The story is finally getting somewhere. For the time since the series started, I can't wait to see the next episode.

EroKing · 2011-08-05, 10:28

One of the twins trigerred a huge death flag, won't be surprised if she dies next episode. From the flashback that Saya had she is pretty much confirmed to be the Saya from Blood the Last Vampire.

Xagzan · 2011-08-05, 11:10

Yay, real forward plot movement at last! I was glad that this episode started out with one of its increasingly eerie segments, and even the school time was pretty creepy. To me, that kind of atmosphere is one of the most important things when telling a vampire/monster story.

Unless of course you're just going for pure action like Underworld with no real instillment of unease or dread. But Blood-C has thankfully been giving off that atmosphere the past couple of episodes, and with that wham moment at the end of the episode, looks like things are picking up.

Of course Sato's music continues to be love. I adored the soft, tiptoe creeping piano version of the main theme right at the start. I had faith that man wouldn't let me down when it came to the score, and he has Not.

Oh, and for Tokizane, I do think he must know something more about Saya or the bairns than everyone thinks. If you notice, he wasn't just looking at her once she collapsed, but also when the teacher was telling the story, and Saya was staring intently. We do actually see him turn his head in her direction and frown, like he was watching how she reacted to a story he may know is true, and may know she knows is true..

It's curious. I don't know, I think if anyone's gonna be this series' Haji, it'll be him.

Guardian Enzo · 2011-08-05, 12:16

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Originally Posted by TheEroKing

One of the twins trigerred a huge death flag, won't be surprised if she dies next episode. From the flashback that Saya had she is pretty much confirmed to be the Saya from Blood the Last Vampire.

I rarely say this even about fictional characters, but I hope so. Those twins are fingernails on a blackboard for me.

2011-08-04, 19:02	Link #602
wandering-dreamer reads too much Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: you know that's a great question.....	Spoiler for episode 5: Well that eye monster was creepy, but not as creepy as when Saya punched it, ewwwwww. Honestly I feel like this episode should have been episode three and episode four should have been episode 2, it's just too obvious now that there's some kind of conspiracy going on in the town and that many of the people are in on it (I was struck when Saya's blue haired friend told her to talk to her because "that's what I'm here for," I wonder if she's in on whatever it is as well/her role is to give Saya an outlet and report back if something goes strange). Was nice to see the twins have different personalities this week, although I worry that now that they have character development that they'll be killed off.... __________________ If it has a plot I have something to say about it! Twitter time!

2011-08-04, 21:57	Link #604
DezoPenguin Beta by Accident Author Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maine Age: 52	Spoiler for Episode 5: And now we have an actual series. Two episodes in a row with actual hints as to what's going on, some kind of breakthrough in the information, Fumito being creepy, eye-monster being very yechhy being punched, the scene where the girl is scared of Saya (that's pretty obvious symbolism there), the teacher's story cut off right before we get to the interesting part. The evident idea for the covenant is "We feed you X humans every Y period of time, and you don't go hunting humans in town"...which makes me wonder if Saya's existence is breaking the covenant, or if she was originally a defense mechanism against Elder Bairn treachery (presuming Daddy wasn't lying about her mother doing the job earlier) but the humans decided that they could double-cross the monsters instead... In any case, lots of curious sequences...and our first cliffhanger scene as well! Things are definitely looking up. Too bad the series basically took the first two episodes off being obscure and confusing, but at least it's starting to settle in.

2011-08-05, 00:50	Link #607
hanashi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: New York, USA	Hmm, so I watched it again and Fumito somehow manages to be even creepier, and coupled with his whole "Tell me everything" which I read as "Rely only on me," it's even worse. He's seriously giving off molester uncle vibes. I think it's cute that Saya is starting to notice Tokizane. Even though she was wrong, because Yuka also calls her by her name without honorifics. It's cute and I'd rather see her blushing over him than her father. I'm still not sure that Tokizane knows about her. Before episode 4, I would have said yes, but after 4 and 5, I can't tell. He doesn't look at her until after she gasps at the story and then it looks like he's thinking that she looks unwell rather than "Saya fights those man-eating beasties." I still can't get over his weirdly disproportionate reaction to her collapsing. She fainted, it's not like she was dying. So many questions! If CLAMP doesn't explain this properly, I will kayak across the Pacific Ocean and shake the answers out of them. So it looked like we got a few new/clear pictures in the flashback. I remember the train but I believe this is the first shot we have of something, presumably some beastie, approaching it. So now we know where the bloodstain came from. I'm really curious about the signpost. It has mountains in the background, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's their current location. I thought it might be something from BtLV, but when I googled Nakasuwa, the only thing that came up was a neighborhood on the opposite coast of the Yokota Air Base. I can't make out the towns at the bottom. Spoiler for Flashback stills: Sorry about the images. They're from the LQ release, although some of the blurriness is intentional flashback blur. __________________

2011-08-05, 01:19	Link #608
RX-78GP04G Gerbera Whoosh! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 38	reply It's pretty much Clamp's pattern from various anime they're involved in; it SEEMS slow and repetitious, but it slowly, but surely, if subtly, shifts mood as it gets darker or at least develops the story; Angelic Layer, Chobits, Cardcaptor Sakura, Magic Knight Rayearth, etc. And here it's been happening again. __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon

2011-08-05, 01:20	Link #609
Ziziphus Whatever Join Date: May 2009 Location: SEA Age: 36	And the plot thickens, like many of us expected. Something I noticed from the last two eps: the attacked villagers didn't run too far away from the scene. It's like they asked to be attacked again. In ep 4, one of them was injured so that may be the reason they couldn't run far. But this ep? When they showed the woman for the second time, sitting there, scared to death I thought: "Wait, you're still there? I thought you ran far far away." Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it. __________________

2011-08-04, 21:36	Link #603
Wshadow Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010	Here we are, the turning point. Saya stoped singing, she forgot to drink coffee (then Guimauve-kun went for her), no happy school comedy time... Also, the music changed a lot, just when we were getting used to it. it's a whole different mood, I was "SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN IN THIS EPISODE"ing since the begining. To me, it looks like the priest is giving the bow to the monster. Priest->Daddy Bow->Sword Monster->Saya There you have it... I'm thinking Saya is the human's plan... Saya fights, the Furukimono think they are in jeopardy, they agree with the "Covennant". (They would kill just the necessary for survival, no more) Then they force Saya to eliminate everyone.

2011-08-04, 23:24	Link #605
Tenza-Zangetsu Member Join Date: Sep 2010	"i sense plot development" from what the preview showed, we are in for a massacre next episode

2011-08-05, 00:09	Link #606
Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	lol, it's pretty amusing watching this show with real-time comments. Made a good episode even better. I've got no complaints, really; show is delivering an entertaining experience every week. Looking forward to the next episode.

2011-08-05, 01:38	Link #610
~~User165949~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Aug 2011	nice little graphic little touches here and there, e.g.: - the face of the dog with a lighter colour at the center of the frame makes the brief scene more hypnotic - helped by the sfx - the teacher has a curious pendant ;-)

2011-08-05, 04:39	Link #613
Kismet-chan The Chaotic Dreamer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In a cruel yet beautiful world Age: 32	Oh God, that episode preview was cruel. The show is finally going somewhere. Can't wait for the next epi.

2011-08-05, 08:56	Link #615
Faerie Joseph Defense Squad Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mars	Oh god, I thought Nene was going to get beheaded right there and then the second that thing showed up :s Anyone else think that the dog looks like Tokizane-kun? It's the eyes... I'm hooked now.

2011-08-05, 09:30	Link #617
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	The way Saya finished off the monster of the week made me cringe. Ewww. The story is finally getting somewhere. For the time since the series started, I can't wait to see the next episode. __________________

2011-08-05, 10:28	Link #618
EroKing Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Age: 38	One of the twins trigerred a huge death flag, won't be surprised if she dies next episode. From the flashback that Saya had she is pretty much confirmed to be the Saya from Blood the Last Vampire. __________________

2011-08-05, 11:10	Link #619
Xagzan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Yay, real forward plot movement at last! I was glad that this episode started out with one of its increasingly eerie segments, and even the school time was pretty creepy. To me, that kind of atmosphere is one of the most important things when telling a vampire/monster story. Unless of course you're just going for pure action like Underworld with no real instillment of unease or dread. But Blood-C has thankfully been giving off that atmosphere the past couple of episodes, and with that wham moment at the end of the episode, looks like things are picking up. Of course Sato's music continues to be love. I adored the soft, tiptoe creeping piano version of the main theme right at the start. I had faith that man wouldn't let me down when it came to the score, and he has Not. Oh, and for Tokizane, I do think he must know something more about Saya or the bairns than everyone thinks. If you notice, he wasn't just looking at her once she collapsed, but also when the teacher was telling the story, and Saya was staring intently. We do actually see him turn his head in her direction and frown, like he was watching how she reacted to a story he may know is true, and may know she knows is true.. It's curious. I don't know, I think if anyone's gonna be this series' Haji, it'll be him.