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Catgirls · 2006-05-28, 18:17

`X-Men' Has 4th-Best Film Debut, $107 Mln in Sales

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May 28 (Bloomberg) -- ``X-Men: The Last Stand'' had the fourth-largest weekend opening in box-office history with an estimated $107 million in ticket sales in the first three days of the Memorial Day holiday.

The News Corp. film had $45.5 million in ticket sales on Friday, making it the second-largest one-day gross in history, trailing only ``Star Wars: Episode III,'' according to Exhibitor Relations Co. ``Episode III'' took in $50 million when it opened May 19, 2005.

``We knew this film was going to have one of the bigger opening weekends of the year because the buzz was strong and the box-office potential was certainly there,'' said Paul Dergarabedian, Exhibitor Relations' president, in an interview. ``But for anyone to say they expected $107 million, we'd have thought they were crazy.''

``Spider-Man,'' released in May 2002, had the biggest opening weekend with $114.8 million in sales, followed by ``Star Wars: Episode III'' at $108.4 million and ``Shrek 2'' at $108 million.

Nuke Mayhem · 2006-05-28, 18:22

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JubeiYamazaki · 2006-05-29, 14:04

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Originally Posted by jedinat

The movie was horrible. The quality was way below the first two. Crappy acting and dialogue. The story was pathetic. The actions and decisions of many of the characters made no sense and was inconsistent with their established personalities of the first two films. I'm not even even an X-Men fan and they way they handled a lot of the characters offended me. Overall a very painful experience.
The last scene [with the chess piece] was good though. Prevented me from feeling totally sickened as I left the theatre.

Having read most of Claremounts, Casey's, Milligan's and Austen's runs, I can say I am an X-Men fan, and I for one was not offended one bit, so that's all you.

As for the movie I loved it to bits, far better then the first two in my opinion. Although I did have my gripes like everyone on the team getting some airtime EXECPT Colossus and his two lines. And I wanted to see more Multiple Man action but after thinking about the last major battle scene, I understand why he couldn't be in it.

The character names didn't match their powers like Kid Omega being exactly like Quill or were given new powers, such as Callisto having those speed bursts.

And apparently the actor that potrayed Cyclops was doing the Superman Returns movie at the sametime X3 was being produced so I'm guessing thats why he had to get axe'd like that.

Overall fun movie.

Legend Ver 2 · 2006-05-29, 17:09

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I was quite disappointed with this movie, even thought I wasn't as hyped to seeing it as X2, because of the crap trailers X3 put out for promotions. This movie had a really good premise to work out from, but I have to say that character wise, only Storm and Wolverine were accurate to their generally accepted personalities. Storm became the leader after Xavier passed, and she took her role more seriously and was th first to stand up for muatation not being a disease. Wolverine was as savage and badass as always, sucumbing to Jean for a moments worth.

The otehr characters were kind not there. Iceman was too much of an emo in terms of relationships, I remember him to be much more wisecracking and more relaxed. Rogue was supposed to be strong willed, and we all saw what happened to her at the end. and Xavier seems a little too forceful at times, or maybe it's just me.

I know alot would say this is the movie and should not be compared to their comic counterparts, which I can see the reasoning of, but sometimes, you just don't f**k with a formula as iconic as some of the relationships in the comicverses. The general public probably knows that jean and Cyclops are like the Superman and Lois Lane, Peter Parker and MJ. You don't need to be hardcore fans to see that. And that is just one formula you don't f*** with even though it's a movieverse, because it's just so iconic.

The reason I'm talking about Jean and Cyclops is that Jean seems totally out of character, Phoenix or not, to just off Cyclops right then and there. And no moments hesitation offing Xavier as well, thought she struggled a bit since Xavier was a strong telepath after all, but nonetheless she was willing to. But WOlverine, she had some reserves to offing, since he was probably the only mutant to see the actual Jean for a few moments in the movie. I wonder, why the hell would Wolverine be able to bring out Jean, who she had the LEAST emotional attachment to, and not Cyclops or Xavier, her LOVER and her TEACHER/FATHER FIGURE. That to me just doesn't make any sense at all, considering the closeness of the latter 2 characters to her, Wolverine was still fairly new in her life compared to the other 2. I don't care the reasoning for comicverse vs movieverse, the point is that it's already established who she was more attached to based on the first 2 movies and this elemnet, being somewhat central to Phoenix's defeat, was totally ruined in terms of character bonding with these 3 respective mutants.

And this marks the third movvie in which Cyclops was completely useless.

jedinat · 2006-05-29, 17:43

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Originally Posted by JubeiYamazaki

Having read most of Claremounts, Casey's, Milligan's and Austen's runs, I can say I am an X-Men fan, and I for one was not offended one bit, so that's all you.

As for the movie I loved it to bits, far better then the first two in my opinion. Although I did have my gripes like everyone on the team getting some airtime EXECPT Colossus and his two lines. And I wanted to see more Multiple Man action but after thinking about the last major battle scene, I understand why he couldn't be in it.

The character names didn't match their powers like Kid Omega being exactly like Quill or were given new powers, such as Callisto having those speed bursts.

And apparently the actor that potrayed Cyclops was doing the Superman Returns movie at the sametime X3 was being produced so I'm guessing thats why he had to get axe'd like that.

Overall fun movie.

You have no taste man

I know a bad movie when I see one. And how this could possibly be considered better than the first two is beyond me. I mean... do you pay any attention to the dialogue being thrown around in a movie? the acting? the ability of the story to draw you in and make you feel for the characters? the conceivablitiy of the characters' decisions and reactions? Those are the things that make a movie, and they were definitely missing from this one.

JubeiYamazaki · 2006-05-29, 21:55

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Originally Posted by jedinat

You have no taste man

I know a bad movie when I see one. And how this could possibly be considered better than the first two is beyond me. I mean... do you pay any attention to the dialogue being thrown around in a movie? the acting? the ability of the story to draw you in and make you feel for the characters? the conceivablitiy of the characters' decisions and reactions? Those are the things that make a movie, and they were definitely missing from this one.

I actually have an excellent taste in movies. See I went to see this movie just wanting two things, 1.) Seeing awhole lot of top tier asskickery and 2.) Seeing how over exposed Wolvie was going to get.

And I got them both. I wasn't execpting anything more or anything less. I could sit here and over analysis every nuance of the film, but I'm not, you know why? Its not Space Odyssey, nor was it suppose to be.

And anyone whosever read comics knows that the X-Men franchise litterally makes zero sense when it comes to character actions and reactions.

For example lets look at a new developement for a character named: Sage. She was part of the Hellfire Club and then later became an X-Men I think maybe... 3-4 years ago? But that's not the point the point is, that recently a few months ago it was revealed that Sage was the first X-Man EVER, but Xavier decided to make her a spy instead of an official X-Man and to have her spy on the Hellfire Club, but only Xavier knew the truth, got it so far? Okay then. So the last 20 years of X-Men falling into traps, getting almost killed, and the revival of possibly the most power evil comsic entity: The Dark Phoenix were all... "accidents"? What the hell kind of spy was she? And lets not forget that for a good almost 7-8 years Xavier was gone. That's right he took a shuttle with Lilandra and flew off to space for almost a decade.

So how can you be a "spy" when your only contact is out in space? And at the same time not tell his real X-Men that they've got someone working undercover? So you're telling me ALL the shit that Xavier made Cyclops go through with Jean/Phoenix and all that other crap, he's still not trustworthy? But someone who was there participating in the destruction of the known universe is?

So really the movie made more/perfect sense.

And also please do not attack mine or other members of this board, we all have different tastes, if I have offended you, then I apologize, and if you wish to further discuss my taste or anything else, please keep it in PMs.

jedinat · 2006-05-30, 01:53

That long reply doesn't really address my post. A movie is a movie, I don't care how much more plausible it happens to be than the comic.

I'm sorry if my posts seem blunt, but I'm hardly attacking you

Ochibi · 2006-05-30, 02:00

I was really excited about X3, I watched it on Friday with a few of my friends. I liked it, not as much as the second one but I'm usually a bad judge of movies. ^^

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HoboGod · 2006-05-30, 02:24

Just saw the film. Who wrote that crap? The dialog was predictable, the plot was sub-par, and the action scenes made no sense. And what the fuck was with the hidden message they were trying to pull? All the new mutants in magnito's brotherhood dressed like emo/goth freaks whining about how they are different and missunderstood. That was very gay....

/end rant

On the plus side, my friend payed for the ticket. And because the fire alarm was tripped by accident, delaying the movie midway, we all got coupons for a free movie. So technically, not only was the movie free, but I was also somewhat payed to watch that movie. And even then, it wasn't worth the ticket price.

Potatochobit · 2006-05-30, 05:38

i have to say this one was definately not as good as the other xmen movies and felt rushed. lots of CG and pretty stuff, but the story was far too weak and whoever wrote the story was definately not a marvel fan.

C.A. · 2006-05-30, 06:56

Well, the movie is just average for me. Dialogue lacks depth and a whole bunch of powerful mutants seemed pretty weak.

I expected Angel to have much more scenes and actual fighting, Juggernaut don't sound tough, Magneto never used any magnetic shields or bolts in all 3 movies. Phoenix was a huge disappointment, she was powerful, but she wasn't supposed be killed so easily. She didn't fly into the sun as well, I thought that would be an ending.

Rowi · 2006-05-31, 08:07

I quite enjoyed the movie. It was totally over the top, as a LAST STAND is entitled to be. I must say, though, that I was annoyed with the fact that they never mentioned that Juggernaut was Xavier's brother... and that he's NOT A MUTANT!

The visual effects were mindblowing, and I LOVED the Magneto chess thing at the end. It was like a kick in the pants, like, we went through this whole drama and all these important people died, and the "cure" was only TEMPORARY? Mystique is totally going to make him go insane... since her other act of vengeance didn't really work, I'd bet she's still pretty pissed off...

x_Kotori_x · 2006-05-31, 12:19

my boyfriend and friend saw the movie,but didn't stay after the credtis, then they went home and read online that there was something after the credits. Poor guys :/

mantidor · 2006-05-31, 17:50

All the talks about a possible sequel made me realize exactly whats wrong with the movie, because it was good and entertaining, but it was supposed to be the "last" one, and it happens that everyone is more excited about what might happen in the sequel than what actually happened in the movie.

Not only they rushed over it and left many characters saying only two lines, they also left it open for a sequel. They should have never said this was going to be the last one, or if it was, make it properly, as big and complex as possible, I dont care if the movie ends up lord of the rings' long.

Eric the Grey · 2006-05-31, 21:25

Personally, I liked the movie.

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1.Never kill or depower imporatant key characters to the franchise.
2.Never rewrite the orgin stories of characters.
3.Always leave it open ended for any kind of sequal(well the little extra after the credits might change that).

There are two things that need to be remembered here:

1. It's a Marval Universe. Nobody (edit: Ok, very few :P ) dies for good.
2. There is no gurantee that Scott is gone for good. I'd be willing to bet money on it that he'll return in the next movie, if they do one.

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Eric the Grey

mememe · 2006-06-01, 06:38

I saw the movie and wasn't really impressed for the main reasons that it didn't have kurt, jean didn't need to be killed and it didn't show the "pressure" of humans wanting the mutants get the 'cure' through family, friends and media.

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Also angel never explained how he knew about the school or show the others why he came there.

I am hoping that when they release this movie to DVD it will be a longer one with the cut scenes in it.

So what happened at the end for ppl who didn't stay till the end of credits?

Shay · 2006-06-01, 10:13

Oh poo. I didn't stay to see what happens after the credits either.

Could someone please tell me exactly what I missed?

DingoEnderZOE2 · 2006-06-01, 14:08

[QUOTE=mememe]I saw the movie and wasn't really impressed for the main reasons that it didn't have kurt, jean didn't need to be killed and it didn't show the "pressure" of humans wanting the mutants get the 'cure' through family, friends and media.

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Also angel never explained how he knew about the school or show the others why he came there.

Spoiler for About your spoiler:

Also did you forget that the mutent school is pretty well known? You would know that from watching the first movie.

Plus although I agree it would have been nice if they had shown the humans side of the news of the mutants being able to get a cure. But still is wasn't a required scene.....since every X-men fan know that you can't really cure being a mutant.

Spoiler for Oh and about the after end credit scene:

hooliganj · 2006-06-01, 14:48

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Phoenix was a huge disappointment, she was powerful, but she wasn't supposed be killed so easily.

One thing the movie did portray was that Wolverine's healing power is also a class 5 mutant ability.

Retelling the Pheonix story without involving alien empires was going to take a lot of reworking anyway, and I think they did a reasonable job. As it turned out, X-Men 1 and 2 far exceeded my expectations, and 3 was about what I had expected from the franchise in the first place - fun and exciting, with lots of cool characters, powers, and special effects. Getting good actors like Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellan and Hugh Jackman has always been a bonus.

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C.A. · 2006-06-01, 14:55

Well, if she sees Wolverine 'walking' towards her, couldn't she just use a telepathic lift and throw Wolverine aside? Well, we can argue that Jean probably wanted Wolverine to kill her, so she suppresses Phoenixes power a little or something.

2006-05-30, 02:00	Link #48
Ochibi Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 33	I was really excited about X3, I watched it on Friday with a few of my friends. I liked it, not as much as the second one but I'm usually a bad judge of movies. ^^ Spoiler: The scene that really got to me was the one in the beginning where the younger Angel is sawing his wings off. I was like...O_O.

2006-05-30, 06:56	Link #51
C.A. Absolute Haruhist! Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 37	Well, the movie is just average for me. Dialogue lacks depth and a whole bunch of powerful mutants seemed pretty weak. I expected Angel to have much more scenes and actual fighting, Juggernaut don't sound tough, Magneto never used any magnetic shields or bolts in all 3 movies. Phoenix was a huge disappointment, she was powerful, but she wasn't supposed be killed so easily. She didn't fly into the sun as well, I thought that would be an ending. __________________ No longer a NEET so I'll not be online as often. Ignore gender and kick sexuality to the curb! I'm a big mecha fan, who keeps playing the SRW series. When I say 'My god...', god refers to Haruhi-sama. My art album updated 11th May 2013, Science. Deviant Art: http://ca0001.deviantart.com/

2006-06-01, 06:38	Link #56
mememe hmmm baka Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Age: 37	I saw the movie and wasn't really impressed for the main reasons that it didn't have kurt, jean didn't need to be killed and it didn't show the "pressure" of humans wanting the mutants get the 'cure' through family, friends and media. Spoiler: come on they had a mutant that stopped other mutants powers when they went near him why couldn't they just throw him a jean when she was tearing everything apart???? Also angel never explained how he knew about the school or show the others why he came there. I am hoping that when they release this movie to DVD it will be a longer one with the cut scenes in it. So what happened at the end for ppl who didn't stay till the end of credits?

2006-06-01, 14:08	Link #58
DingoEnderZOE2 Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ohayo	[QUOTE=mememe]I saw the movie and wasn't really impressed for the main reasons that it didn't have kurt, jean didn't need to be killed and it didn't show the "pressure" of humans wanting the mutants get the 'cure' through family, friends and media. Spoiler: come on they had a mutant that stopped other mutants powers when they went near him why couldn't they just throw him a jean when she was tearing everything apart???? Also angel never explained how he knew about the school or show the others why he came there. Spoiler for About your spoiler: .....Some guy on gamefaqs(http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gen...topic=28323183) got owned by various people when he said this very same thing. Who would have thown him? Who could throw him without losing their powers? Plus do you really think Jean who was ripping everything apart to begin with, wouldn't see him coming and wouldn't rip him to pieces before you got too close? Also did you forget that the mutent school is pretty well known? You would know that from watching the first movie. Plus although I agree it would have been nice if they had shown the humans side of the news of the mutants being able to get a cure. But still is wasn't a required scene.....since every X-men fan know that you can't really cure being a mutant. Spoiler for Oh and about the after end credit scene: The professor only survived because he TRANSFERED his mind into that dude who was dying in the hospital. If you recall in an eariler scene(with the body and that doctor on the TV in the same room as them)he was talking about the possiablity to do that and wondering if it would be the right thing to do with his students. I knew it was strange that the professor didn't look the least bit bothered that he was gonna be "killed" by Jean. We all know good ol Scott doesn't have that kind of power so for all we know he could actually be DEAD for good. __________________ Anime in progress and enjoying: Persona 4 the golden Animes on Hold:None Animes completed:I wanna be the strongest in the world,Super Sonico The Animation, Hajime no Ippo:Rising, Wake up girls,Mangaka-san to Assistant-san to The Animation Anime evaluating:None Manga in progress:None at the moment

2006-06-01, 14:55	Link #60
C.A. Absolute Haruhist! Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 37	Well, if she sees Wolverine 'walking' towards her, couldn't she just use a telepathic lift and throw Wolverine aside? Well, we can argue that Jean probably wanted Wolverine to kill her, so she suppresses Phoenixes power a little or something. __________________ No longer a NEET so I'll not be online as often. Ignore gender and kick sexuality to the curb! I'm a big mecha fan, who keeps playing the SRW series. When I say 'My god...', god refers to Haruhi-sama. My art album updated 11th May 2013, Science. Deviant Art: http://ca0001.deviantart.com/

2006-05-29, 17:09	Link #44
Legend Ver 2 The Omnipotent One Join Date: Jan 2004	Spoiler: I was quite disappointed with this movie, even thought I wasn't as hyped to seeing it as X2, because of the crap trailers X3 put out for promotions. This movie had a really good premise to work out from, but I have to say that character wise, only Storm and Wolverine were accurate to their generally accepted personalities. Storm became the leader after Xavier passed, and she took her role more seriously and was th first to stand up for muatation not being a disease. Wolverine was as savage and badass as always, sucumbing to Jean for a moments worth. The otehr characters were kind not there. Iceman was too much of an emo in terms of relationships, I remember him to be much more wisecracking and more relaxed. Rogue was supposed to be strong willed, and we all saw what happened to her at the end. and Xavier seems a little too forceful at times, or maybe it's just me. I know alot would say this is the movie and should not be compared to their comic counterparts, which I can see the reasoning of, but sometimes, you just don't fk with a formula as iconic as some of the relationships in the comicverses. The general public probably knows that jean and Cyclops are like the Superman and Lois Lane, Peter Parker and MJ. You don't need to be hardcore fans to see that. And that is just one formula you don't f* with even though it's a movieverse, because it's just so iconic. The reason I'm talking about Jean and Cyclops is that Jean seems totally out of character, Phoenix or not, to just off Cyclops right then and there. And no moments hesitation offing Xavier as well, thought she struggled a bit since Xavier was a strong telepath after all, but nonetheless she was willing to. But WOlverine, she had some reserves to offing, since he was probably the only mutant to see the actual Jean for a few moments in the movie. I wonder, why the hell would Wolverine be able to bring out Jean, who she had the LEAST emotional attachment to, and not Cyclops or Xavier, her LOVER and her TEACHER/FATHER FIGURE. That to me just doesn't make any sense at all, considering the closeness of the latter 2 characters to her, Wolverine was still fairly new in her life compared to the other 2. I don't care the reasoning for comicverse vs movieverse, the point is that it's already established who she was more attached to based on the first 2 movies and this elemnet, being somewhat central to Phoenix's defeat, was totally ruined in terms of character bonding with these 3 respective mutants. And this marks the third movvie in which Cyclops was completely useless.

2006-05-30, 01:53	Link #47
jedinat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 38	That long reply doesn't really address my post. A movie is a movie, I don't care how much more plausible it happens to be than the comic. I'm sorry if my posts seem blunt, but I'm hardly attacking you

2006-05-30, 02:24	Link #49
HoboGod Necromancer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cardboard Box Age: 38	Just saw the film. Who wrote that crap? The dialog was predictable, the plot was sub-par, and the action scenes made no sense. And what the fuck was with the hidden message they were trying to pull? All the new mutants in magnito's brotherhood dressed like emo/goth freaks whining about how they are different and missunderstood. That was very gay.... /end rant On the plus side, my friend payed for the ticket. And because the fire alarm was tripped by accident, delaying the movie midway, we all got coupons for a free movie. So technically, not only was the movie free, but I was also somewhat payed to watch that movie. And even then, it wasn't worth the ticket price.

2006-05-30, 05:38	Link #50
Potatochobit Certified Organic Join Date: Dec 2005	i have to say this one was definately not as good as the other xmen movies and felt rushed. lots of CG and pretty stuff, but the story was far too weak and whoever wrote the story was definately not a marvel fan.

2006-05-31, 08:07	Link #52
Rowi Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: chillin' in the BK lounge	I quite enjoyed the movie. It was totally over the top, as a LAST STAND is entitled to be. I must say, though, that I was annoyed with the fact that they never mentioned that Juggernaut was Xavier's brother... and that he's NOT A MUTANT! The visual effects were mindblowing, and I LOVED the Magneto chess thing at the end. It was like a kick in the pants, like, we went through this whole drama and all these important people died, and the "cure" was only TEMPORARY? Mystique is totally going to make him go insane... since her other act of vengeance didn't really work, I'd bet she's still pretty pissed off...

2006-05-31, 12:19	Link #53
x_Kotori_x Vice Captain Yuki Join Date: May 2006 Location: Georgia Age: 35	my boyfriend and friend saw the movie,but didn't stay after the credtis, then they went home and read online that there was something after the credits. Poor guys :/

2006-05-31, 17:50	Link #54
mantidor the Iniquitous Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: bogotá	All the talks about a possible sequel made me realize exactly whats wrong with the movie, because it was good and entertaining, but it was supposed to be the "last" one, and it happens that everyone is more excited about what might happen in the sequel than what actually happened in the movie. Not only they rushed over it and left many characters saying only two lines, they also left it open for a sequel. They should have never said this was going to be the last one, or if it was, make it properly, as big and complex as possible, I dont care if the movie ends up lord of the rings' long.

2006-06-01, 10:13	Link #57
Shay Monarch Programmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Liverpool Age: 42	Oh poo. I didn't stay to see what happens after the credits either. Could someone please tell me exactly what I missed?