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Perfect 10 12 19.05%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 23 36.51%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 15 23.81%
7 out of 10 : Good 8 12.70%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 1.59%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 1.59%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 1.59%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 1.59%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 1.59%
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Old 2015-02-20, 22:22   Link #1
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Old 2015-02-21, 10:25   Link #2
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Unless Asseylum intervene through a live broadcast, I find it difficult for Inaho and Co to get out of this no scratch.
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Well, it looks like the princess is a little off in the head and for the first time it looks like Inaho's gonna have a tough fight ahead of him. He's facing two Kataphrakts.
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Old 2015-02-21, 11:21   Link #5
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ALL HAIL SLAINE!

Kill'em all. (well, Inaho will live anyway, but at least kill some of the others)
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bah..thinking of putting this on hold till final episode...
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Old 2015-02-21, 12:52   Link #7
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Well, it looks like the princess is a little off in the head and for the first time it looks like Inaho's gonna have a tough fight ahead of him. He's facing two Kataphrakts.
Two landing castle, two Count class Kataphrakts as of now to be exact.
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Old 2015-02-21, 13:31   Link #8
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The scene with the blue roses on the ground

It's official now - Slaine's pissed at the NTR
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Old 2015-02-21, 13:33   Link #9
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The scene with the blue roses on the ground

It's official now - Slaine's pissed at the NTR
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So how can that make Slaine the main Villain cause of the NTR.
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Old 2015-02-21, 13:37   Link #10
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Well, I'll be the first to say that that was a really good intermediary episode, and that Slaine has begun going down a path of darkness that even he can't find a way out of.

In his efforts to gather support and power in Vers, things have begun to spin a little out of his control. His morality has been skewed and while in his heart he does not wish to do these things, he sees no way out of it but by continuing on no matter the doubts. It's almost like the infection that is Vers politics have begun to infect him because he has had to embrace it wholeheartedly. I can't help but think a tragic end is in store for him unless he can be pulled back from the abyss, and I truly hope that someone can.

Asseylum has awakened, and is now in a wheelchair, however, she seems to have lost some of her memories, but they don't seem to be all gone. She is happy now, but I fear that she will be saddened at what Slaine has done, though unlike others, I doubt she will abandon him or even yell at him. She will try to save and help him as best as she knows how.

As for Lemrina, that is a tragic figure right there, a girl that loves Slaine, but knows that he will never love her back, who is angry at her sister but still cares for her. I don't know what she will do.

Slaine is organizing the counts under one flag, and is having them fight together, which should have been their game plan all along as Inaho and team can't fight well multiple kataphrachts that are fighting all at once. So, Slaine has gained control of Vers and sadly seems to be trying to bring Earth to heel as well. He knows this will hurt Asseylum, but at this point he's gone too far to go back now.

Well, on a good note, he does want the war to end, and it will probably end a lot faster with the counts actually working together rather than apart. Unfortunately, that won't be such a good end for the Terrans, unless Slaine has some other plan up his sleeve.

What shall this mean for Inaho and the gang as well as Mazuurek who's finally gotten back to his castle? I don't know? I wish I saw a good ending here, but I'm honestly not sure how this will end. While many say that Slaine should die or suffer for his actions, anti-heroes like L-elf and Lelouch did much worse things than he and somehow they are still well loved, and L-elf (and some say Lelouch too ) actually survived their perspective series. I'll be interested in seeing where this will end for Slaine, but for now things don't look good for the Earth.
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Well, I'll be the first to say that that was a really good intermediary episode, and that Slaine has begun going down a path of darkness that even he can't find a way out of.

In his efforts to gather support and power in Vers, things have begun to spin a little out of his control. His morality has been skewed and while in his heart he does not wish to do these things, he sees no way out of it but by continuing on no matter the doubts. It's almost like the infection that is Vers politics have begun to infect him because he has had to embrace it wholeheartedly. I can't help but think a tragic end is in store for him unless he can be pulled back from the abyss, and I truly hope that someone can.

Asseylum has awakened, and is now in a wheelchair, however, she seems to have lost some of her memories, but they don't seem to be all gone. She is happy now, but I fear that she will be saddened at what Slaine has done, though unlike others, I doubt she will abandon him or even yell at him. She will try to save and help him as best as she knows how.

As for Lemrina, that is a tragic figure right there, a girl that loves Slaine, but knows that he will never love her back, who is angry at her sister but still cares for her. I don't know what she will do.

Slaine is organizing the counts under one flag, and is having them fight together, which should have been their game plan all along as Inaho and team can't fight well multiple kataphrachts that are fighting all at once. So, Slaine has gained control of Vers and sadly seems to be trying to bring Earth to heel as well. He knows this will hurt Asseylum, but at this point he's gone too far to go back now.

What shall this mean for Inaho and the gang as well as Mazuurek who's finally gotten back to his castle? I don't know? I wish I saw a good ending here, but I'm honestly not sure how this will end. While many say that Slaine should die or suffer for his actions, anti-heroes like L-elf and Lelouch did much worse things than he and somehow they are still well loved, and L-elf (and some say Lelouch too ) actually survived their perspective series. I'll be interested in seeing where this will end for Slaine, but for now things don't look good for the Earth.
Yeah, Slaine at this point is stuck in a spot that he can't get out. I guess he will just continue even though this goes against the princess' ideal. That scene with Slaine crying while the earth forces getting killed was a pretty good scene, reminded me bit of Godfather, not as good as it but still pretty good. Well at this point I see Slaine dying towards the end.

Know what, I just realized something. Slaine remind me bit of Michael Corleone.

Other things, I see that earth politicians are dumbass too. I guess they are typical generic old fart from anime, who are just stuck in old ways and too proud for their own good. They probably will die.

And FINALLY! Holy crap, these counts finally decide to fight together, about damn time.
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Yeah, Slaine at this point is stuck in a spot that he can't get out. I guess he will just continue even though this goes against the princess' ideal. That scene with Slaine crying while the earth forces getting killed was a pretty good scene, reminded me bit of Godfather, not as good as it but still pretty good. Well at this point I see Slaine dying towards the end.

Other things, I see that earth politicians are dumbass too. I guess they are typical generic old fart from anime, who are just stuck in old ways and too proud for their own good. They probably will die.

And FINALLY! Holy crap, these counts finally decide to fight together, about damn time.
It's interesting that you say that, since the director, Aoki, said that he loves the Godfather trilogy and the Slaine in this cour is based on and framed after Michael Corleone and the the counts were framed after the Mob.

Also how the heck did all those Terrans die and all these old corrupt politician idiots stay alive and in power? Ridiculous! But whatever, hopefully they die later.

I'm glad the counts are finally joining together, however, I'm a little concerned about Barouhcruz. He seemed just a little too calm there and taking this a little too well considering his expression last week. Does anyone other than me think he's planning something?
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I got a feeling that Slaine is conflicted and that he will save Mustang squad by turning on the other counts. Just a feeling. I've seen this in anime many times. The bad guy feels conflicted and assists the good guys in the heat of battle.
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What shall this mean for Inaho and the gang as well as Mazuurek who's finally gotten back to his castle? I don't know? I wish I saw a good ending here, but I'm honestly not sure how this will end. While many say that Slaine should die or suffer for his actions, anti-heroes like L-elf and Lelouch did much worse things than he and somehow they are still well loved, and L-elf (and some say Lelouch too ) actually survived their perspective series. I'll be interested in seeing where this will end for Slaine, but for now things don't look good for the Earth.
Motivation is pretty important here. With Lelouch...yes the guy committed atrocities and had an ego the size of the entire planet, but ultimately, everything he did was to make the world a better place for his sister. It was more of an "ends justify the means" situation. Lelouch really didn't care about himself - the point that he was willing to throw away his life. In fact, he didn't even want to live after he thought his sister was dead.

With Slaine, however, the motivation appears to be far less pure. It seems increasingly clear (especially with this new episode) that he's not conquering Earth/indulging in dirty politics for Asseylum or for her ideals. His statement of more or less settling for power if he can't stay close to Asseylum shows that ultimately, he's very self-centered. Furthermore, his one saving grace--his feelings for Asseylum--seems more like obsession and possessiveness rather than love.

So it's not surprising that more people hate Slaine.
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So basically the leaders of the UE are idiots.
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Unless Asseylum intervene through a live broadcast, I find it difficult for Inaho and Co to get out of this no scratch.
It's too soon for Asseylum to be interfering right now. There are several possibilities for this battle to end, including a retreat, but there will be more losses whatever happens.
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So basically the leaders of the UE are idiots.
Were you really surprised?
When are unnamed generic politicians/leaders in anime ever not idiots lol
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It's interesting that you say that, since the director, Aoki, said that he loves the Godfather trilogy and the Slaine in this cour is based on and framed after Michael Corleone and the the counts were framed after the Mob.

Also how the heck did all those Terrans die and all these old corrupt politician idiots stay alive and in power? Ridiculous! But whatever, hopefully they die later.

I'm glad the counts are finally joining together, however, I'm a little concerned about Barouhcruz. He seemed just a little too calm there and taking this a little too well considering his expression last week. Does anyone other than me think he's planning something?
After thinking, there is bit of similarity between Michael and Slaine. You could draw some parallel with Vito getting shot with Asseylum and both getting into a situation where they can't really get out of anymore. Hopefully, Slaine doesn't have the same ending as Michael.

I actually could see Slaine killing the politicians later, opening a road for Asseylum to set up a new government in the future with the help of Deucalion crew.

And Barouhcruz is definitely planning something, no way he can be ok with this.
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was i the only one wich felt bad for lem-hime? also i seriusly doubt seylum will do anything to help since she doesn't even remember they'r names for now..
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I see three possibilities in the upcoming battle:

1. Both forces come to a stalemate and withdraw.

2. Inaho figures out a way to defeat 4 counts and 2 landing castles by himself (The height of nonsense prediction, but par for the course for this series).

3. We continue with Slaine's conflicted feelings from this episode, and he turns on his Vers allies. He assists Inaho and Co. in winning the battle for Earth. That way, he can take Inaho to Asseylum. Inaho and Slaine have a makeup session for their disagreement in episode 7.
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