Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Second Season - Episode 20 Discussion / Poll

[Tkpenalty]

Originally Posted by The Small One

Interessting episode.
Funny how Revive got owned by Haro. Though I was kind of surprised, where Revive got out of the Raiser-cockpit. I always thought, that the cockpit was the red-blackish part in the front.

What I don't understand: Why did they let Anew and Revive escape? I can understand, that Lockon couldn't fire at the shuttle, but Setsuna was also there and could have shot them, or catch them and force the shuttle back to the Ptolemaios.

Then there is Louise's new MA. How exactly do they explain, that it has beams, that can suddenly change their direction?
I could understand it, if the beam is curved from the start, or if they have prepared some reflectors, but changing its direction in the middle of the field? There goes the realism of this series...

Did they mention, how the innovators called their new suit, with fangs?

And then the scene with Anew and Soma... she called Soma a C-level quantum-brainwave user. I wonder what level the Innovators are... B-level? A-level? And what level is Setsuna going to become?

And how was it possible for Setsuna to shot the mind-controlled Anew so easily? We know, that Ribbons controlled her from the moment on, where she tried to exit the cockpit. And we also know, that Ribbons is always informed by the other Innovators on what's going on on the battlefield. So he should have known, that the 00-Raiser sortied and already destroyed two of the suits and is now on his way to the third... it shouldn't have been possible, that Ribbons got surprised.
The only explanation would be, that he let Anew die on purpose, maybe to create disputes among the Ptolemaios' crew.



I don't think so. Billy is the lead designer for A-LAWS, so what he builts definately has to be something, that gets mass-produced.
I already wrote it above: It has been four months, since the prototype got finished and tested. Shouldn't it be mass produced by now?

Setsuna was able to take out the mind-controlled anew so easily because:
1. The trans am 00 has a ridiculous range of fire
2. Trans am 00 raizer means severing the "evil"; injuries, etc, and i think something like having some machinery in your head counts as an injury too.

Uh... I really doubt they'd mass produce a mobile suit that would cause massive amounts of internal bleeding to the end-user

Originally Posted by zero7090

Spoiler for do you know ?:

To be frank a Lame... really lame post... its not a fantasy comic, its a science fiction anime. Every time you post crap like that, god kills half our brain sells. . You do know a lot of the actual concepts (i.e. GN Drives, excluding quantum brainwaves) actually have a scientific basis for them? Forced Proton decay for energy; GN drive, etc.

[Ardi220288]

OH Yeah this episode totally excite me. The drama and action just too perfect. 10/10 for the rating

Now that I think about it the butterfly in the OP = death

Marina hestitate in reaching the butterfly ==> almost dead

Louise reject the butterfly ==> not dead

Feldt chasing the butterfly ==> chasing the dead Nyle

Anew touch the butterfly ==> no need to be said right


Btw I though that setsuna in the end will started saying gundam but instead he's thinking about marina now now setsuna please make up your mind

[Chase]

Originally Posted by Ardi220288

OH Yeah this episode totally excite me. The drama and action just too perfect. 10/10 for the rating

Now that I think about it the butterfly in the OP = death

Marina hestitate in reaching the butterfly ==> almost dead

Louise reject the butterfly ==> not dead

Feldt chasing the butterfly ==> chasing the dead Nyle

Anew touch the butterfly ==> no need to be said right


Btw I though that setsuna in the end will started saying gundam but instead he's thinking about marina now now setsuna please make up your mind

lol good one, but i really hope Setsuna doesn't get confused *looks at sig*. Make the right one now Setsuna, your life depends on it

[Lugia_Tsuyu]

For the second time, Marina is not in a prison people! She's in this meeting place (or shelter or whatever) Shirin told her to go last episode.

[Airi]

Originally Posted by Samanosuke

There wasn't really. Unless 00 can stop time

+rep for you!!!!

[zero7090]

Originally Posted by Tkpenalty

Setsuna was able to take out the mind-controlled anew so easily because:
1. The trans am 00 has a ridiculous range of fire
2. Trans am 00 raizer means severing the "evil"; injuries, etc, and i think something like having some machinery in your head counts as an injury too.

Uh... I really doubt they'd mass produce a mobile suit that would cause massive amounts of internal bleeding to the end-user



To be frank a Lame... really lame post... its not a fantasy comic, its a science fiction anime. Every time you post crap like that, god kills half our brain sells. . You do know a lot of the actual concepts (i.e. GN Drives, excluding quantum brainwaves) actually have a scientific basis for them? Forced Proton decay for energy; GN drivel, etc.

arent fantasy and sci-fi non fiction already ?

how with just 2 joystick which have no more button than a my keyboard , they can control and complex machine like mobile suit ? from arm, leg movement to combat, fly, dash ... let alone 00 raiser transarm
how the hell it can make people brain hear each other ?
how the hell Ribbon can control Anew even he is few million km far from her ? So will that make the quantirium brain wave (sry i dont remember how it spell correctly) faster than speed of light ?

[Knight_SV]

i can't believe Wang Liu Mei still alive, but i hope they will explain her background and motive before finally kill her for good

[Airi]

Originally Posted by Knight_SV

i can't believe Wang Liu Mei still alive, but i hope they will explain her background and motive before finally kill her for good

The only thing she did was smiling and acting self-confident FOR TWO WHOLE SEASONS! Who cares about her reasons. >_<

[Galerian]

Still no sign of Patrick and Katy, the only Antagonists I really care about. Graham is cool too of course.

I don't care about Innovators with their silly names, strange glowing eyes and weird schemes.

[justpassingby]

looks like Neena fired at the space ship just for the lulz

[Narona]

Good episode, even if i dislike how it ended

[arkeid]

I would like Revive and Anew saty alive until the end
They are the best of Innovators.
And somebody, kill Healing Care, PLEASE!

[incorrupts]

Originally Posted by Lolipopo

F*** Yeah !
Wang and Honglong are alive !
(Yeah I don't care what people say, I'm all for them, they are the new Minus and Crtex of th anime world)

Like i said on LJ, i would pay to see those two getting hit by a lunatic bus being driven by Nena and then bus-explosion so the three of them are dead for sure.
No kidding, i absolutely hate these characters, while i see epic ones like Sergei biting the dust. Ugh.

Originally Posted by Lolipopo

And well...R.I.P. Anew. And seriously that's certainly one of the most stupid thing ever (at least in CG KoR were totally side characters) we didn't get any realy devellopment on screen for her and Lyle (When I think about their beautiful ending scene, what a shame) and finally she is killed like that, so suddenly ?

I kinda agree to an extent, Lyle x Anew was not exactly the best development-material, but their scenes this epi were orchestrated well. I am content i must admit.

Originally Posted by Lolipopo

Is the point to create a way for LylexFeldt ? (she lost her lover/Lyle's twin and he lost his. Comfort pairing ? Threesome with Tiera maybe ?)

Lol, no way.

Originally Posted by Lolipopo

Anyway, only 5 episode left to give to Marina a purpose. Cause well That's pretty irritating until then, even Lacus was more useful (and It hurts to say this, really.)

I have lost my hopes on Marina. I used to like her, now she does not make a difference if she lives/dies. She is just..there. Give me more Klaus and Shirin Sunrise.

[Tokkan]

Obvious that Soma does care for Allelujah, even if just a little. When Arios was hit by the Regnant's cannon, she was like "How dare you?" as she fired her barrage of missiles.

[Nightwing(T_T)]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeees More tragedy for this series (love you Mizushima)


Damn I was totally at the edge of my seat watching this episode. Love those arrogant trait of innovator. They always always always to look down on other people but in the end always always always get their ass fried for it. Like when Revive said that he was capture on purpose.

Love that eye contact on setsuna and Lyle (great rescue dude). Anyone notice tthe reason why setsuna capable of founding Anew immediately? yup his QBW. Too bad for Anew though since she failed on hijacking 00 as a result. Revive succeed in taking 0 raiser but Red haro is coming to rescue damn this 00 series haro so cute and useful (well we have victory haro too) hahaha never lol this much after seeing that. Though revive didn't let it going smoothly, Don't know why but I feely totally fine when Lyle let go Anew like that. I guess that just fit his character that's different from his niisan.


An here come Ribbon aour favourite mastermind. Manipulate everything and anything. Dude I love it when You're doing it with style like that. just wait until Setsuna killed you


and the Battle that mixed with the drama oh god I feel to excited that screaming like crazy (Lyle VS Anew battle fang vs bits now that's a master piece). and of course after all that cool talk by Lyle and How I wish Anew just come one just get on your guy already, Bam Ribbon come to play. (Love you again Mizushima )> and setsuna killed her in order to save Lyle.


Well I could sympatize on Lyle even though He's punching my favourite meister. He just need areliever that's all. And just WHEN I though Our gundam boy have already proclaim his love for his gundam he switch back to marina . Dude make up your mind already

Love this episode especially the Last scene of Anew and Lyle with Trust you song is just masterpiece

15/10 for the rating

[SaintessHeart]

Looks like Lyle will kick Revive's ass in the next 5 episodes. He is going to die a really ugly way.

Regnant seems to be the Psycho Gundam of this series. With its claws it looks like a super big MA.

And with so many crew members around.....none of them shot Revive. How stupid can they get?

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

And with so many crew members around.....none of them shot Revive. How stupid can they get?

If they shot him, Anew would've instantly known and could've shot Mileina.

[Narona]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Looks like Lyle will kick Revive's ass in the next 5 episodes. He is going to die a really ugly way.

Regnant seems to be the Psycho Gundam of this series. With its claws it looks like a super big MA.

And with so many crew members around.....none of them shot Revive. How stupid can they get?

Apparently setsuna destroyed the other innovators MS, minus Louise's. But I don't understand why they aren't able to destroy the escape pods. I mean, they have no high speed and Setsuna should be able to destroy them by catching up their speed or by using his mega canon.

I don't understand that.

[Nightwing(T_T)]

Originally Posted by Narona

Apparently setsuna destroyed the other innovators MS, minus Louise's. But I don't understand why they aren't able to destroy the escape pods. I mean, they have no high speed and Setsuna should be able to destroy them by catching up their speed or by using his mega canon.

I don't understand that.

because He's rushing to save lyle at that moment

[Marikina]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

And with so many crew members around.....none of them shot Revive. How stupid can they get?

Anew had orders to kill Millena if he wasn't allowed to leave unmolested.