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View Poll Results: Myself; Yourself - Episode 11 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 63 | 42.86% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 43 | 29.25% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 11.56% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 6.12% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 2.04% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 1.36% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 1.36% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 8 | 5.44% | |
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2007-12-13, 02:06 | Link #121 | |
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2007-12-13, 02:19 | Link #123 | ||||
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Even Yuzuki played a role other than her own story by cheering up Sana which allowed him to confront Nanaka. Aoi... I don't know but something will happen with her next episode. Hinako is the only one that doesn't have a connection with the characters before the beginning of the anime. So they could have just focused on the story instead of stuffing in two Hinako episodes that broke the rhythm of the show. Quote:
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Heck, now that they've run away, the writers don't even have to worry about writing a script for further confrontations between Asami and the twins. And by pushing in this Asami story, they get to take out Kaji as well. "Two birds, one stone". They could have gone "Oh crap, we forgot to do Kaji's story and we have no time left. Hey, let's stuff this in using the character with the most unknowns so it'll make sense. But what about Nanaka? Ah, who cares.". Possibly? EDIT: Quote:
*smiles right back*
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2007-12-13, 02:23 | Link #124 |
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It does mean a lot to the anime, since you have to consider the original market. Most gamers are put off if important story details are revealed early in a "promotional" trailer, anime, etc.
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2007-12-13, 02:45 | Link #125 | |
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Besides, you say it like this anime was solely created for the purpose of advertising for the game, something I highly doubt, because that just sounds absurd. Besides, from this anime, a lot of important things have been revealed. These are important details. After all, we've learned about the fire, Hinako, Yuzuki, the twins' family situation, and the oh-so-wonderful Asami thing. So I guess from what you said, every gamer watching the anime has already been put off, now that they have learned all of this. The only thing left is the "ending". The anime is already supposed to have a anime-only scenario, so whatever they do is fine. They aren't limited because they aren't animating any game end.
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2007-12-13, 02:51 | Link #126 |
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Seeing this episode reminds me that the key to a good plot twist isn't necessarily its unlikelihood, but rather its execution. And it's the execution that makes this episode fall utterly on its face. It wasn't even horrific enough to be laughable or arouse anger; it was just plain dull - all it did was to induce a few yawns.
Unfortunately I was right in my prediction that the writers would destroy Asami's character, probably just to make Nanaka look better. But would it have killed them to maintain Asami as a likeable and admirable character? This was the equivalent to making Shirakawa Kotori have hots for Nemu and causing her cough up sakura petals out of jealousy. Sure, it would have added "shock value" to D.C., but would it have made it a better show? One must wonder what the writers were thinking. The second half was just as bad, with the twins eloping, and the melodrama that ensues with Sana chasing them on a bike. Next time we see them, they may return with a child - it's reached that level of absurdity. Not sure how things will go in the next couple episodes. Last time I predicted a Hinako episode in 12, and an Aoi ending in 13 - but judging from the episode preview, it looks like a Nanaka centered episode. Judging from how things have gone I almost expect Nanaka and/or Aoi to bite the dust, setting up an epic climax in episode 13 where the survivor meets her demise while Shuusuke and Shuri commit double suicide, and Hinako comes in to sweep up the mess and claim the dubious prize. Power rankings: 1. Hinako - Moves to the top during a bye week while all the other contenders collapse around her. It's almost like watching college football this season, with the top rated teams dropping like flies. Far from a finished product at this point but at least has potential, which is more than you can say for (almost) anyone else. 2. Aoi - Almost recovered from her earlier collapse, but due for a killer blow in episode 12. See, Sana has to end up with Nanaka, so that means they have to make you look bad. 3. Nanaka - Hard to believe that she can go backward and STILL gain in the rankings. 4. Shuri - Nope, she's into twincest. Or double suicide. Or both, if the writers are going to go in that direction. 5. Asami - From first to last in one week. I guess she really doesn't swing that way... |
2007-12-13, 03:42 | Link #128 | |
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I'm just saying Nanami sounds better to me, is there any need for confusion over that? And, I'm glad that other people are seeing what I'm seeing about the story of this show... I was hoping for something good, but the development and execution is so piss poor that I'm actually looking forward to the last episode to see if they can screw up even more. |
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2007-12-13, 03:47 | Link #130 |
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Hella people are b1tching about this episode. Honestly, I really don't know why people don't find the plot twist amusing. I found the ending of Episode 11 powerful and good. Conclusion: Nothing wrong with this ep.
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2007-12-13, 05:15 | Link #134 |
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Any bad writer can create a surprise ending by simply withholding basic information about a character and claiming that they put up such a good pretense that you simply didn't see the truth. Then all of a sudden they reveal themselves and you're expected to think, "Ooooh! What a twist!" Except that it isn't a twist ending -- it's just cheating.
It's like saying that I want to call you HayamiTamaya because it sounds better to me. That's a real enough name, but it just isn't your name.
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2007-12-13, 06:17 | Link #135 | |
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2007-12-13, 07:50 | Link #136 |
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OMG !!! I know It To late To Tell You The one Who wrote The Latter Is ASAMI ...
I Hate HerFrom the Bottom Of My Heart... Because She Made The Whole Problem.... She made Suffer So much... All forget About Now.. And next Week About Nanaka.... Can't wait to see it..
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2007-12-13, 08:10 | Link #137 |
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Incredible episode. I wish more episodes early on were more serious (like ef for example, which rarely wasted time getting to the point). The confession was really well done and it made sense in a twisted way.
But I agree. Second Season is a MUST. Or at least I hope the writing staff sees it that way. I wish they didn't hurry the show like this when it had so much more potential. |
2007-12-13, 09:18 | Link #138 |
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I really cannot understand what you guys are upset about. Sure, this episode a bomb drops, but isn't that what most people are longing for? Moreover, from the hindsight, the whole thing actually has a lot of hints and foreshadowing in the previous episodes, although, I have to admit, unless you are a yuri fan and actively anticipate this coming more than likely you will let them pass without noticing. I am always amazed to find out in this forum there are so many people just want a series moving towards their imaginative direction, and when it did not, they levy their anger and frustration, without first asking themselves whether they have misread the whole plot or simply ignore something.
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2007-12-13, 09:23 | Link #139 |
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Yeah, of course.. everyone hates Asami. She wrote that bad, bad letter out of fun.. that bish..
Certain people here make it seem like they're personally insulted because a plot twist / cheating / whatever-you-want-to-call it isn't to their tastes. Dear, dear. As for me, I loved the episode (rated it 10). Finally something you could speculate on but didn't seem probable because of the clichés the series stuck to. Asami gained points this episode - or rather, a personality. Just being friendly, a catalyst for jealousy and, well, friendly isn't what you call personality. We didn't really know anything about Asami, just that she's an iinchou, befriended Sana and knew Syuri. Personally, I heard the yuri-subtext'o'meter rising quite a few times (including the Ferris Wheel Scene). But I'm naturally a pessimistically influenced realist, and thus I thought Asami had to have interest in Sana..orz Life can still be fair sometimes. Sana gains - unexpectedly - points, too. He acted as a good friend two times, with Asami, whom he didn't resent for what she did (contrary to some people here..), and in the end when he catched up with the train. Epic scene music, by the way. Edit: I forgot mentioning that I had read the character profiles on the official website before the series even started airing - so I knew there was more to Asami. I was about to be disappointed that they wouldn't show that anymore in the Anime, but.. patience was rewarded. |
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As far as I watch the episodes back, there isn't any very subtle nor obvious hint of that kind of aftermath. And even if we were bound to imagine that Asami is lesbian, that doesn't exactly converge to the "evil scheme", as the ferry wheel wasn't really a angsty clue. Quote:
And as far as i know, I didn't question anyone's enjoyement, as I only commented how i felt the episode absurd on its way.
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