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2008-08-14, 10:08 | Link #1062 |
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Another possible reason. Both Hayate and Nanoha come from Earth. Hence the easier acceptance of mass weaponry.
Fate did live on Earth for quite abit but her mindset and education would be heavily influenced by Mid and TSAB doctrines. Same goes for the rest of the team sticking with her. All noted to be Mid by birth or influenced otherwise.
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2008-08-14, 19:11 | Link #1064 | |
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... ... You know, ever since this doujin came up, and then the revelation that Himura did Sword Dancer, I realized our expectations are getting rather Nasu-fied. Does this mean I'm vindicated for splicing Nasu themes into Nano...? <.< / >.> Darn no 1337h4xx hi-Raising Heart upgrade.
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2008-08-14, 20:59 | Link #1066 |
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I don't like this.
I don't like this at all. Kha's concerns about the milotaku aside, I'm concerned about the impact this doujin may have on the general tone of content in the OC thread. If BetrayerS becomes popular enough I fear greatly that the OC thread may become subjected to a flood of Dark TSAB stories, or that said fics may become some kind of standard that the rest of us will be forced to live up to, whether or not we want anything to do with "Dark Future" stories. I am reminded with alarming clarity of the Dark Crystal Tokyo theory, which circulates the Sailor Moon fandom like a vile plague that refuses to shrivel up and die. Bad Ends have absolutely no place in Mahou Shoujo, and I can't see BetrayerS going anywhere good before the end comes around. Consider a somewhat disturbing parallel I spotted: If Nanoha is the White Devil, then Fate is Char Aznable. And if Fate is Char, then BetrayerS is effectively Char's Counterattack. Most likely Tomino's novel version where neither of the two rivals lives to see the end of the book. Well whatever. No matter how popular this doujin may become, it has nothing to do with Comacanon and I will not be taking any cues whatsoever from this nightmarish scenario. Or if I do, it will be a rebellion situation with all the Aces on one side, not fighting amongst themselves.
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2008-08-15, 03:51 | Link #1068 |
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Yeah Comar relax.
While I agree with Keroko that it may help us Cadians with experimenting more, I don't belive we will go totaly khrack or something. And I already have a setting wich takes place in a dark midchilda with the TSAB no longer existent and evil guys rule the world. *shrug*
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2008-08-15, 04:22 | Link #1069 |
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What I meant was that this might encourage us to think more outside the box, instead of going 'that's not supposed to be that way' not to turn the Nanohaverse into emoverse. Though I might be writing some BetrayerSverse fics myself.
Kinda like the old days, where we'd just write down any crazy scenario that came to mind. Anyway, its the 15th now, do we have the first reports of comiket? I'm really anxious to listen to the SSX. Though maybe its a bit silly to expect things before its over. Last edited by Keroko; 2008-08-15 at 04:37. |
2008-08-15, 09:30 | Link #1072 | |
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Seriously, if there are people in the crowd who think they can do better than BetrayerS, write it already, stop going "my continuity and canon this and that". And grimdark in a nanoha fiction is not a first. People who are not convinced need to take a look over eagle's fanfictions in fanfiction.net. Last edited by Sheba; 2008-08-15 at 09:43. |
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2008-08-15, 13:02 | Link #1075 |
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When the things involved are more a part of the reason for staying on, the effects are felt deeper. Whereas the shipping wars were more of a difference of opinion, at the end it wouldn't really change much no matter how things went; ie people would go on doing what they did regardless of what happened.
Not so with the infighting.
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2008-08-18, 09:56 | Link #1076 | |
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Speaking of Comiket... Magical Battle Arena has already been released. I've played it for a day or two already, unlocking all the characters. (Though Lina and Naga from Slayers and the other character, Kukuri must be downloaded from a patch on the main site.) Spoiler for Promo vid:
Since I enjoyed it quite a bit, I was inspired to do a quick review of the playable characters in the game as of the current version. >:3 Spoiler for Usable characters and short descriptions:
I'm telling you, it's a bucketload of fun! Using Nanoha or Fate does not disappoint for the most part. And the slew of other characters are all interesting and fun to use as well! (As for me, Lina is a pure joy to use! Dragon Slave trumps even Starlight Breaker! XD) Game website: http://fly-system.net/product/mba/index.htm Anyway. I'd love to post the link to the Torrent of the game. But I don't think Animesuki Forums would allow me to. =/ If it's possible, I think I'd put the link on a Profile Message on my Profile page. Is that legal? I don't want to break any forum rules. >< Thanks for your time. It's back to schoolwork for me. (as well as praying that they would include Hayate in a future patch) P.S. Special thanks to aroduc. I referenced two links from his blog. I'm sorry if I wasn't able to ask permission! ><
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2008-08-19, 07:35 | Link #1079 |
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Picked up the BetrayerS doujin today at Melon Books after work, thanks to the blown-out-of-proportion expectation in this thread.
I haven't read the previous works of the same artist, but personally I am quite satisfied with it, with a good balance of plot and action. It would certainly be a real epic story if the 4th series follows the story line. I am not going to spoil the story, but I think it is interesting to note that the the concept of the story seems to be stemmed from the real-life deabte on the Article 9 of the Japanese constitution on whether Japan should maintain a "military" or not. The only complaint I have to make is that while it is only the epilogue of the whole epic, the artist decided to end the story at that point and claimed that s/he will not publish any new chapters due to commitments to real life and a doujin called "Sword Dancers." Oh well... As for the Magical Battle Arena game, it is really great fun. The production team seems to favour Nanoa and paid extra effort to restore the epicness of the Nanoha attacks, making them as impressive as in the anime, while characters like Sakura can only get Street-fighter-ish fiery punches and kicks. 2940 yen is a bit expensive as a doujin game though (well I wouldn't mind paying 4000 yen for an upgraded version with the whole Hayate family included) |
2008-08-19, 07:57 | Link #1080 |
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Still too vague; I can't see how our anticipation could be related to the Art. 9 debate.
But thanks for the nugget; its a start. Are we allowed to post scanlations of a doujin here?
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