2012-11-10, 14:58 | Link #781 | |
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Seriously? Spreading the Pink Phobia to the gundam timelines... I think the people of PLANTs will be very scared of Lacus Pink hair very fast that the Eternal will be painted into a different color. The most scary part of that thought... is that I like it.
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2012-11-10, 17:10 | Link #782 | ||
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He's rather rigid in that way. And it's sort of understandable. As a ground force mage, he has less powerful resources to draw on as most powerful mages tend to go to the navy. Plus, as a non-mage he already has a harder time climbing the ladder while he has to watch powerful mages getting ranks handed out like candy. And then he finds out one of those mages is a former criminal? And gets a special unit funded and authorized by the three admirals? Yeah, I can kind of see why that'd tick him off... Quote:
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2012-11-11, 15:36 | Link #783 |
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What are *your* ground forces? The local forces on Midchilda, who are never deployed off-world, or the infantry of the TSAB, which is deployed to other worlds?
If it's the first, then obviously the Navy needs the most and best stuff, since they have to go everywhere, be everywhere, and face anything. First response, initial defense, and front lines. If it's the second, why the hell arent the ground forces just a branch of the navy? Considering that Midchilda was a space-faring civilization BEFORE the TSAB was founded and organized. |
2012-11-11, 16:41 | Link #784 | |
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Hmm.... I always had this image that the Ground forces consists of several components. You have the stationary units: enforcement, Defence and the logistics that accompanies those. They also assist with other groups such as rescue squads in the case of disasters( as with the airport fire). Aside from each Administrated planet's own forces there's a branch that acts relatively comparable to a nations infantry, deployed on other worlds when the TSAB has no other option to maintain order, or when requested by the government of a planet in order to maintain order. Most likely each world's military force was absorbed into a single machinery during the formation of the TSAB. After all, with a history of warfare it seems logical that those worlds already had a military standing even before the TSAB was founded. The TSAB Navy seems to act as a whole different organ, tasked with both maintaining order in space and the Dimensional sea. From what I guess they tend to rely on their ability to reach the site of an incident quickly, before using their high rank mages to cut most problems in the bud. The Navy's branch of investigators acts pretty much as the national services in contrast to the ground forces local enforcement, taking jurisdiction when it looks like a investigation leads off-world. Do not expect the Navy to participate in long-term missions, compared to the Ground forces they lack the required logistic troops to enforce their might for a long period. Their gameplan is to swoop in, get a good look, do their job and finish up, preferably in less then a few weeks. Long term peace missions are not their thing, thats ground forces stuff. Of course, the problem for the ground forces is that, while both do a good job, the Navy's result are much more in the media. After all; safeguarding a world or having a peace-keeping mission on another world is wonderful but doesn't make very interesting news. A sudden raid on a forbidden research lab on the other hand, thats news! And because the Navy is made up of such high level mages it doesn't take long before their names become well-known, spreading the image of the Navy as the "modern, world-changing job" while the Ground forces's hard but less known work goes without attention because they don't have high-rank mages for most of their work. I mean, just look at them: Noble Enforcers, Heropic Aces and the lot : traveling on spaceships as brave Navy members go boldly as they protect the law in space , hunt down interplanetary criminals and discover strange new worlds and civilizations. Meanwhile the ground forces are.... pretty much going nowhere. They do their jobs, and pretty well, but.... there's no action that draws your teenage mage who is looking for a calling. The Navy might not have desired their popularity but as a result they are getting both a lot of support and young volunteers from the people of the TSAB. Meanwhile the Ground forces can only look on as the cycle continues: Highly qualified mages join the Navy, which can continue to impress, which increases their popularity. Everyone wants to be a jet fighter-pilot, but who wants to be a cop? |
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2012-11-11, 20:14 | Link #788 | |||
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I'd say he has high hopes for her. Hayate and Auris Gaiz might end up getting along rather well. Hayate might be swayed towards his arguments, but with Nanoha and Fate as her childhood-friends she might keep an more open mind. |
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2012-11-11, 21:43 | Link #790 |
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The way I see it, every planet would be expected to have its own defensive force. Kinda like the PDF from 40K - hold the line while desperately praying to the God-Emperor, err, Sankt Kaiser that the Guard get there before they're all dead.
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2012-11-13, 19:56 | Link #791 |
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Still, the Air Forces should logically be a branch of either the local, planetary defense force, or the federal, interstellar defense force.
And if, for some reason, the planetary forces are divided into Air Force and Ground Force, then we ought to have Gaius' counterpart: a character who heads the Air Forces on Midchilda. Logically, that would be his immediate rival, more so than the Navy. |
2012-11-13, 20:17 | Link #792 | |
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From the looks of it the traditional "Air force" branch was absorbed by both the Ground forces and Navy, but with the Navy's ability to draw high level mages into its folds the ground forces have been in decline on that front. From what I see the TSAB Navy doesn't have a commander who can act like a counterpart to Gaius, most likely because there isn't a dedicated Navy unit for Mid-childa itself. From the large amount of Admirals the Navy has it's logical to assume that there is something of a board that runs the fleet from TSAB headquarters, and has a less rigid command structure then the Ground Force. Did Lindy ever report to a superior officer during Nanoha and A's? |
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2012-11-14, 01:38 | Link #794 | |
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Yes, the navy might need them more statistically, but emotions rarely operate on statistics. Regius sees people die because he lacks the resources to properly deal with powerful criminals. The navy is the branch which gets most of those resources. Hence, frustration. But his dislike with Hayate isn't just "the navy steals powerful mages," it's also "why do hell do powerful mages get such preferential treatment?" "how the hell did they found such a unit in my ground force under my nose" and "why the hell did they put a criminal in charge of such a powerful unit?" |
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2012-11-14, 18:10 | Link #795 | |
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2012-11-23, 10:15 | Link #798 |
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So, who knows about the Accel World anime? (Which one can view for free on the Hulu website.)
Nanoha is born in the year when parents customarily install "Neuro Linker" ports in their children at birth. This allows them to equip tiny, mobile computers around their necks, which provide augmented sensory images (a Head's Up Display -HUD- and Guided User Interface -GUI-) as well as easy access to the internet and the ability to divert their consciousnesses into virtual reality worlds. Nanoha herself prefers a magical girl avatar, with a frilly white dress and a magical wand. She also loves bullet-hell games -- an immersive, Touhou/Ikaruga-esque series of VR worlds, as well as various sharp-shooter challenges. Then, one day in a communal VR environment, she runs across a boy with a ferret avatar. He's trying to run and hide from other users, claiming that they want to steal something precious from him. With quick thinking and familiarity with the surroundings and games, Nanoha keeps him safe. The boy, Yuuno, is impressed with her ability, and makes her an offer. He'll give her his one and only chance to download-share a special game called "Brain Burst"; a game unlike anything she's ever known. In exchange for that, his mentorship in the game's rules, and a special Rare Item, Yuuno would like her to help him out for a while. Nanoha agrees, and so enters the Accelerated World. Welcome, Pink Devil. I'm only on the 14th episode of the 24-episode series, and much of the character-specialization rules are undefined. But having a Red avatar signifies long-range firepower. I don't know what White signifies, but Nanoha might have an avatar who falls between the Red and White spectrums, resulting in a Pink avatar. It's a mechanical pink avatar, of course, like all other Burst Linkers. Moreover, it's a cute little mecha-girl with a REALLY BIG GUN. A Rare Item gun that a starting character would normally never have. See, Yuuno isn't your normal Burst Linker. He's not actually much of a fighter or competitor at all, and he never would have reached Level 4 if not for the encouragement and help of his own mentor/master. But he's fascinated with the mystery behind the secretive Brain Burst program. In addition to studying the code as much as he can, and trying to pierce the black box programming without triggering a defensive Uninstall, Yuuno relentlessly searches the Unlimited World environment for clues. His searching hasn't yielded much in the way of answers, but he's discovered a number of hidden Rare Items of particular power. Unfortunately, he's also garnered a reputation for doing so, as his discoveries have drawn greedy attention. Which is doubly unfortunate, because he seems to have stumbled across the Accelerated World's equivalent of a Doom's Day item, and other players WANT IT. Yuuno can't even count on his own Legion, anymore, which is why he needs to turn to outside help. Nanoha herself would share her one copy of the program with Arisa, who in turns shares it with Suzuka. Since the three of them were already friends in real life, and since the experience gap between them would be extremely short, none of them would have the typical Sempai/Kohai, Master/Protege relationship with each other that Brain Bursters would normally have. The relationship between Nanoha and Yuuno would turn out much like in the anime, since each of them wants different things out of this special world, and Nanoha quickly surpasses anything that Yuuno can teach her about the conventional, fight-game aspects of the Accelerated World, and Yuuno acknowledges this. So the four of them would behave like equals, except when differing to Yuuno's greater knowledge and experience with the society of the Accelerated World. Last edited by Sunder the Gold; 2012-11-23 at 21:50. |
2012-11-23, 20:12 | Link #799 |
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Certainly could be an interesting crossover; and with the color system, Yuuno would fit "Green" rather well. "Pink" makes sense for Nanoha - for obvious reasons and with Red = long-range.
I forget if it's Arisa or Suzuka who has a gunblade in Innocent, but that would, to me, fall under "Purple". Not much else to say on it, though, sadly.
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