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Flower · 2013-11-15, 12:14

Yes indeedy - it is possible, but by no means clearly spelled out. ^^

ChronoReverse · 2013-11-15, 12:33

It would explain her extreme level of power though (and why Akari isn't the one doing it).

MartianMage · 2013-11-15, 12:41

Well yeah it seems that Nikaido is the reborn Dokuro...

Awrya · 2013-11-15, 12:43

I was like "HOLY SH*T!!!", Keima started Nikaido (teacher) route when he was a kid, although his mind was a 17 year old.

The author planned it all out since chapter one, no wonder Nikaido always wore a chocker.

MartianMage · 2013-11-15, 12:52

Anyway since we're almost done with this arc(I think) one thing that I don't really understand is why is there a need for Keima to do all of this? Sure it was to ensure that the past connected to the future but why is there a need for outside interference? Wouldn't the past naturally connect to the future? If we compare this to Terminator 3 there was a need to send another T-800 to ensure the past connects to the future because there was another T-1000 out there set to try and change the past. So far there's no outside interference from Vintage or that even higher organisation from Hell so I don't really get the point of this arc.

ChronoReverse · 2013-11-15, 12:54

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Originally Posted by MartianMage

Anyway since we're almost done with this arc(I think) one thing that I don't really understand is why is there a need for Keima to do all of this? Sure it was to ensure that the past connected to the future but why is there a need for outside interference? Wouldn't the past naturally connect to the future? If we compare this to Terminator 3 there was a need to send another T-800 to ensure the past connects to the future because there was another T-1000 out there set to try and change the past. So far there's no outside interference from Vintage or that even higher organisation from Hell so I don't really get the point of this arc.

This is an appropriate response:

Divini · 2013-11-15, 13:11

I'm just imagining Nikaido calllng present-day-Keima "Onii-chan"

Richocet · 2013-11-15, 14:01

Ohh that I did not see coming...can't wait for hos the future turns out now

Shadow5YA · 2013-11-15, 14:05

Did this panel ever show up in a previous chapter? The chapter seems to imply it did, but it's such a minor detail that I don't remember it at all.

ReddyRedWolf · 2013-11-15, 14:55

If Doukuro is Nikaido then her not letting Keima use her as a stepping stone for her friend Jun makes sense...

It would feel like she is NTR-ing herself with her best friend.

trenton_dawn · 2013-11-15, 15:35

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Originally Posted by MartianMage

Anyway since we're almost done with this arc(I think) one thing that I don't really understand is why is there a need for Keima to do all of this? Sure it was to ensure that the past connected to the future but why is there a need for outside interference? Wouldn't the past naturally connect to the future? If we compare this to Terminator 3 there was a need to send another T-800 to ensure the past connects to the future because there was another T-1000 out there set to try and change the past. So far there's no outside interference from Vintage or that even higher organisation from Hell so I don't really get the point of this arc.

Chapter 224 has the answer. Through some convolutions in the parallel universe theory, Dokurou would cause someone from a successful universe to come back to the decision point and create that very universe--to write the beginning after the ending. As Keima puts it, "What happened to the laws of cause and effect?!"

Anyway, if Dokurou = Nikaido, I'm still confused about what Akari/Rimyuel said to her, although I suppose even Akari might not have known her identity. I also agree with the others that Nikaido seems too harsh to be Dokurou. Even if she's undercover and pretending, I don't see the current young Dokurou as being capable of that. Maybe after 10 years of practice, I guess.

ChampDream · 2013-11-15, 17:13

so Keima already know who doukuro is, I guess we have to wait for the author to 100% confirmed that is the teacher

fukarming · 2013-11-15, 17:23

If Dukuro is Nikaido, that means all Nikaido's harshness is just a show to hide her true feelings to Keima....The ultimate "dere-Tsun"? Dere comes first and becoming Tsun later on?

Nighty40 · 2013-11-15, 17:39

I knew that their was something up with Nikaido for awhile. this manga is starting to pick up again (at least that's how I feel)

Kanon · 2013-11-15, 18:04

I knew it. Unless Wakaki throws a curve ball at us (a possibility I can't dismiss), it's only a matter of time before Dokurou is fully confirmed to be Nikaido. It will be glorious to see Nikaido go dere for Keima.

ReddyRedWolf · 2013-11-15, 18:18

I keep imagining Nikaido is like Chifuyuu of IS if she is Dokurou. Only in this case the MC she considers as her Oniisan instead of a Ototo even if she is obviously a Oneesan type.

NinjaRealist · 2013-11-15, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Nighty40

I knew that their was something up with Nikaido for awhile. this manga is starting to pick up again (at least that's how I feel)

Everything is starting to come full circle.

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Originally Posted by Kanon

It will be glorious to see Nikaido go dere for Keima.

Agreed!

Frailty · 2013-11-15, 19:14

I'm 1000% sure it's Nikaidou

notice how she always wear a collar, it's probably hiding that tape she wore just now

so like... did Keima conquer her just now?

tenchir · 2013-11-15, 19:33

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Originally Posted by trenton_dawn

Chapter 224 has the answer. Through some convolutions in the parallel universe theory, Dokurou would cause someone from a successful universe to come back to the decision point and create that very universe--to write the beginning after the ending. As Keima puts it, "What happened to the laws of cause and effect?!"

Anyway, if Dokurou = Nikaido, I'm still confused about what Akari/Rimyuel said to her, although I suppose even Akari might not have known her identity. I also agree with the others that Nikaido seems too harsh to be Dokurou. Even if she's undercover and pretending, I don't see the current young Dokurou as being capable of that. Maybe after 10 years of practice, I guess.

I thought it was already stated by her that they don't want Vintage to know that Keima is the leader? By treating him that way, they will never suspect.

jvcscasio · 2013-11-15, 20:12

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Originally Posted by tenchir

I thought it was already stated by her that they don't want Vintage to know that Keima is the leader? By treating him that way, they will never suspect.

OOOOOOORRRRRRR

She is constantly angry at him for going around wooing girls and saying how bad her class is...

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Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	Yes indeedy - it is possible, but by no means clearly spelled out. ^^ __________________

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MartianMage Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Well yeah it seems that Nikaido is the reborn Dokuro... __________________ Homura: Die monster! You don't belong in this world! Kyubey: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute. Homura: Tribute? You steal girls' souls, and make them your slaves! Kyubey: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions. Homura: Your words are as empty as your soul! Lolis ill-needs a savior such as you! Kyubey: What is a loli? A miserable little pile of moe! But enough talk...have at you!

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Awrya U mad? Join Date: Apr 2012	I was like "HOLY SH*T!!!", Keima started Nikaido (teacher) route when he was a kid, although his mind was a 17 year old. The author planned it all out since chapter one, no wonder Nikaido always wore a chocker. __________________

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MartianMage Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Anyway since we're almost done with this arc(I think) one thing that I don't really understand is why is there a need for Keima to do all of this? Sure it was to ensure that the past connected to the future but why is there a need for outside interference? Wouldn't the past naturally connect to the future? If we compare this to Terminator 3 there was a need to send another T-800 to ensure the past connects to the future because there was another T-1000 out there set to try and change the past. So far there's no outside interference from Vintage or that even higher organisation from Hell so I don't really get the point of this arc. __________________ Homura: Die monster! You don't belong in this world! Kyubey: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute. Homura: Tribute? You steal girls' souls, and make them your slaves! Kyubey: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions. Homura: Your words are as empty as your soul! Lolis ill-needs a savior such as you! Kyubey: What is a loli? A miserable little pile of moe! But enough talk...have at you!

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Richocet Lover of Purity Join Date: Feb 2012	Ohh that I did not see coming...can't wait for hos the future turns out now __________________

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ChronoReverse Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	It would explain her extreme level of power though (and why Akari isn't the one doing it).

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Divini Senpai! Join Date: Mar 2007	I'm just imagining Nikaido calllng present-day-Keima "Onii-chan"

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Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Did this panel ever show up in a previous chapter? The chapter seems to imply it did, but it's such a minor detail that I don't remember it at all.

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ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	If Doukuro is Nikaido then her not letting Keima use her as a stepping stone for her friend Jun makes sense... It would feel like she is NTR-ing herself with her best friend.

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ChampDream Alive Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: in my really nice house	so Keima already know who doukuro is, I guess we have to wait for the author to 100% confirmed that is the teacher __________________

2013-11-15, 17:23	Link #9073
fukarming Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	If Dukuro is Nikaido, that means all Nikaido's harshness is just a show to hide her true feelings to Keima....The ultimate "dere-Tsun"? Dere comes first and becoming Tsun later on? __________________ They came first for sharks fin,I didn't speak up because I don't eat sharks fin. Then they came for foie gras,I didn't speak up because I don't eat foie gras. Then they came for Toro (bluefin tuna) sushi,I didn't speak up because I don't eat sushi. Then they came for me and force me to be a vegan by that time no one was left to speak up.

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Nighty40 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013	I knew that their was something up with Nikaido for awhile. this manga is starting to pick up again (at least that's how I feel)

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2013-11-15, 18:18	Link #9076
ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	I keep imagining Nikaido is like Chifuyuu of IS if she is Dokurou. Only in this case the MC she considers as her Oniisan instead of a Ototo even if she is obviously a Oneesan type.

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Frailty Constellation Graphic Designer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pearl of the Orient Seas Age: 31	I'm 1000% sure it's Nikaidou notice how she always wear a collar, it's probably hiding that tape she wore just now so like... did Keima conquer her just now? __________________