2010-09-07, 17:51 | Link #381 |
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Stark never came about as one who enjoyed fighting anyway. and shunsui's attack was pretty devastating - regular "slash you in half x9001".
Toshiro vs luppi was the classic case of "i was just studying you powuh, while pretending to be getting my arse beat. you k with dat?" - that trope has been done to death. of course, now the captains are made to book kinda useless in front of Ichigo - help, even urahara showed them up.
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2010-09-07, 18:10 | Link #382 | |
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With all of this said, I'm reminded of something plausible I once heard on this board to introduce some level of logic back to these completely illogical turn of events. Back in chapter 259, Chad stated that his hollow-based powers were reacting to Hueco Mundo -- and as a result, he was able to realize his full power. So perhaps just by being present in Hueco Mundo can make both hollows, Vizards, and anyone else with hollow-based power stronger. Of course, then you would have to assume that the gap between Espada's #4-1's strength and speed was relatively small. You'd then have to assume the power boost from being in Hueco Mundo is so great, that it allowed Ulquiorra to overshadow Espada's 3-1 the moment they left for the world of the living. If it's true, it would definitely explain how Grimm and Ulquiorra managed to keep up and outspeed an opponent who should be faster than any of the captains (minus the old man maybe). It'd also help explain part of the reasons why Ichigo's hollow powers were able to get increasingly stronger throughout the arc. |
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2010-09-07, 18:33 | Link #386 |
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why do you keep saying this when i just got though explaining via PM that's NOT how Kyoraku's powers work... His powers do not engulf anyone, they just make it so this his attack has a lot of extra power to it if he hits the right spot (which if stark was as powerufl as he SHOULD have been would have been impossible to hit)
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2010-09-07, 18:35 | Link #387 | |
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2010-09-07, 18:40 | Link #388 | |
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2010-09-07, 19:03 | Link #389 | |
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What is the point of saying a color to slash someone's body and just make them feel like they have felt more damage than I really have. Really it doesn't make any sense. As for Starrk's speed to evade umm I don't get it at all because what if it was Yammy he dosn't move very afst either and he is 0 and he would lose to that ability. Then what you said about Hueco Mundo just might be a large factor too
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2010-09-07, 19:45 | Link #390 | |
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ofcourse our complaint is manly that it should not have ever been an "even fight" to begin with, and that shunsui should have been hopelessly outclassed |
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2010-09-07, 20:10 | Link #393 | |
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nope thats incorrect. ww's scream shattered the ice. re-read ch-364 pg: 9-11 |
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2010-09-07, 20:16 | Link #395 | |
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2010-09-07, 20:42 | Link #396 | ||
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considering the condition of hiyori... no Shunsui winning the fight was not necessary for survival |
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No mater Tia still pushed Toshiro too using those shards. I had too think about it for a while and it make sense if were using the manga as a reference after all Starrk still beat Love and Rose it didn't matter if they couldn't use there mask because at a them they were both captains and Starrk easily disposed of them. Proving Starrk can beat a high level captain. Looking back at the Kyoraku fight it still sense to me. After all Starrk was at close range. Very close at that. Hmm what if he fought Ichigo a person who is only power. Who would win. I also think the speed of Starrk could also be overestimated. I mean Starrk's realease was awesome and cool looking, but I think Starrk simply made the mistake of trying to Kyoraku's bankai out. Edited: Tite Kubo simply wounded Hiyori very badly by cutting off her legs, but of course she still could have been healed. The fact is Tite wanted to rush the rest of the Espda because he didn't want to waste any time on them and instead of haxing the Espada he'd rather hax Aizen day and night
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2010-09-07, 20:53 | Link #398 |
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try not to use ichigo as a reference; his abilities are way too unstable. even way back when yammy & ulqqoirra faced him first time, ichigo's raiatsu was high enough to take em both out & moments later low enough for him to get crushed
the cracks on ice are working their way outside in. if it were her strength it would be other way around. not to mention hitsugaya held back his strongest attack till it was weak enough so that it doesnt hurt others around. had he unleashed it asap it is possible that even his scream would not have broken the ice (although i doubt that...ww's abilities are hard to judge) |
2010-09-07, 21:04 | Link #399 | |
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Now what about Hueco Mundo there power could be turned around then. Also guys remembering what Toshiro said about the VL I still think we might get more info on them because we never saw what 10 could do all we saw were three and all though it didn't seem like much it was a problem for Gotei. Tite put them the fights toghter in order of behavior, but what if it was like this. Kyoraku vs Barragan = Barrgan wins by aging Kyoraku's zanpaktou Soi Fon vs Tia Tia loses to Soi fon's bankai Toshiro vs Stark Starrk wins easily Now if they fought in Hueco Mundo they all captains would be dead
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