2006-04-06, 16:12 | Link #1 |
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Can a Zanpakutou be inhereted?
I dont know if you guys have noticed but im sure you have, some characters have a "second hand" Zanpakutou for the lack of a better word.
Soi Fon and Tousen are ones that I think have inhereted theirs from other shinigami. Now, what im asking is, is it possible?
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2006-04-06, 18:11 | Link #2 |
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well a zanpaktou is supposed to be the individual's soul's sword. that means that every shinigami has a different zanpaktou because their souls are all different. Of course we know that there are those crappy zanpaktous that are given to nonshinigamis or the noobs but i honestly dont see how a soul can be passed on. If a shinigami dies doesnt that mean that their soul is also gone? Therefor their zanpaktou will be obsolete and can no longer be used, especially by another shinigami with a different soul. What i really want to know is how the shinigami obtain their zanpaktou. Where do they get it? Does it appear when they can communicate with their souls? do they pull it out of their ass? i mean just how and where do they obtain their zanpaktous.
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2006-04-06, 20:54 | Link #3 | |
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Thats what Im asking, but just without all the bulgarity. If what youre saying is true, where's Yoruichi's Zanpakutou (wich doesnt prove me right either) I clearly remember Tousen's Zanpakutou in the coffin of that woman in his flashback during his fight with Kenpachi. This is one thing that I have been wondering about for a while, theres no need tio be rude.
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2006-04-06, 21:54 | Link #6 |
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We can make some expeculations, but it will be explained in the manga eventually.
Perhaps any Zampakutohs can be used by any shinigamy in some circumstances. In the 2nd OVA u can se how Baishin dies and his Zampakutoh doesnt disappear, if some Soul takes it and trains to be a Shinigami, he could use it, i beleve. |
2006-04-06, 23:28 | Link #7 |
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You are neglecting the lingering feelings of those who died.
if they had a strong enough bond to a specific person, or a dying desire, Since the Zanpakuto is an extension of their soul...it would under certain circumstances adhere ti its bearers final wish and submit itself to another. that's my theory atleast. |
2006-04-07, 05:28 | Link #9 |
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I believe there was a thread like this before. The idea was presented that the 'Asauchi' which are given to all shinigami can be seen as a core. Around this core accretes the spiritual essence and soul of the wielder. Over time the physical appearance of the weapon would change, likely when the shinigami obtains shikai. Thus would the weapon be personalized, and gain a spiritual avatar.
As you can see, there's no explanation exactly as to how this would happen, but it is one theory. I wish I could remember who came up with it to credit them. |
2006-04-07, 06:05 | Link #10 | |
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2006-04-07, 07:56 | Link #11 | |
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2006-04-07, 08:37 | Link #13 | |
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maybe I should step back for a minute. every shinigami has a zanpakuto. fact, right? so if ichigo becomes a shinigami, he must have a zanpakuto. where exactly it comes from? perhaps your creation theory is more correct. but i'd like to add to it by saying that to start with, perhaps the sword is little more than a sliver of your soul, or the potential thereof. As you grow as a shinigami, perhaps my aforementioned 'accretion' theory comes back into relevance. More of your potential is revealed, allowing for shikai and eventually bankai, if those are within your power. that still allows for Ichigo's specific transformation, and the giving of asauchi to academy students. i think |
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2006-04-07, 09:56 | Link #14 | |
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2006-04-07, 11:19 | Link #15 |
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My take on this is that Zanpakutous are just part of the Shimigami unconscious mind, A part of the Shimmigais that have poured in it all his feeling, wishes, fears, etc I think they are unique to each person Soul. I don’t know, but the kind of interaction Zangetsu had With Ichigo when Ichigo first called his name, and also When He regained his Shimigami powers, gave me the impression that every Zanpakutou should be unique to each person, even more as how (if im not mistaken) In the moment Ichigo was running from Urahara and he had nothing on his Hands, he created Zangetsu out of nothing, as if he materialized it, something that was all along with him.
Can the Zanpakutous be then Passed to other persons, or Inherited? I could se it as probable, Rukia gave her powers to Ichigo, im sure that even if the Zanpakutous is part of someone souls, it could be something that can be passed to another person, as Rukia passed her Shimigami’s power to Ichigo. But I think if you a re a shimigami, you are supposed to use your own power to Materialize your own Zanpakutous. |
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Without the Hichigo part Urahara was a Shinigami Captain so he probably knew the proper way Which means it was probably the way he shown to Ichigo. |
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2006-04-08, 01:16 | Link #17 | |
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2006-04-08, 08:53 | Link #19 |
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it has to be created from spiritual power. I think of it as Ishida's bow, he creates that from his spiritual power control. Ichigo's zanpaktou has been broken a number of times, but it has still come back to him... how? Personally i believe it is an unconscious physical form of spiritual energy. I'm not sure if this even makes sense or anything, just my opinion on the matter.
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2006-04-08, 10:34 | Link #20 |
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just to let you guys know, in the OVA, if im not wrong, yoruichi used her sword to slash through some of the hollows. The OVA, in my opinion should be quite accurate. The uses of the bankai and that non manga / anime skills, i think probably kubo had a hand in it. correct me if im wrong.
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