2011-03-24, 19:22 | Link #12701 | |
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I didn't bother to read these, but if one article on Wiki means so much then: Article 1 Article 2 Article 3 Wind farms are still wind Does the fact that Wiki does not come outright and state that neither is a baseload make it so? Again, it is not an exhaustive list. The nuclear plant can be a peaker plant, if it is run as an, albeit crappy, peaker plant, but there is no reason why it should be run as a peaker plant, so it is not run as a peaker plant. Subsidized or not, it is how the plant is operated. No plant can always run at a constant rate. There are scheduled shutdowns, or technical difficulties where the plant can't be operated. That would be like a rainy day for a solar plant. I am pretty sure I mentioned this earlier. The entirety of the baseload fluctuates. When it comes to power plants, constant does not mean unchanging. Definition - usually constant. "Usually" "Essentially" Somehow this did devolve into arguing about the term. But know that I didn't arbitrary pick a meaning for the word "baseload". There is something else to call the wind/solar you wish to categorize, and it is "stochastic relative to demand", but that is rarely used, and they end up being referred to as baseload. After this point I agree to agreeing that we disagree. If any of this was due to a mistake in phrasing on my part, I apologize. Edit 1: Before there's an argument over stochastic relative to demand, yes, people consider it an utterly pointless term. Edit 2: To below, I called it such because on many energy blogs/forums when referring to wind/solar in Europe, it is accepted as "de facto baseload". It doesn't look the same if you're going to go off Wiki, but then again the conversations there don't belong on Wiki. The reasons given are why people find it acceptable to name it that way. Bumping the thread further over this is frivolous and kind of urks me. :\ Last edited by NameGoesHere; 2011-03-24 at 22:03. |
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2011-03-24, 21:12 | Link #12702 | |
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Yes, it's only about the term. I don't think we disagree on anything else fundamentally.
But sorry, I will stress it again: you are making up your very own definition of baseload. To cite once again: Quote:
No, it does not make it so. But neither wind nor solar match the definition at all. Only your made up definition. |
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2011-03-24, 21:43 | Link #12703 | |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/bu...omy/25tax.html
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2011-03-24, 22:30 | Link #12704 |
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coming soon for a House vote...
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...12hr1135ih.pdf Spoiler for [dramatic version]:
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2011-03-25, 02:45 | Link #12705 |
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Thousands in Syria chant "freedom" despite reform offer
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72N2MC20110325
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2011-03-25, 04:14 | Link #12706 | |
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Iraq had a majority Shia population ruled with an Iron fist by a Minority Sunni dictator. Syria has a Majority Sunni population ruled with an Iron fist by a (supposed) Shia dictator. Considering what happened after Saddam was removed from power, I'm not so sure i want to see what happens if Assad falls.
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2011-03-25, 04:37 | Link #12709 |
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Sunni majority population in Syria would suggest they would like it.
Saddam on the other hand threatened them enough for them to not like him even if Iraq's population is not a majority Sunni.
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2011-03-25, 04:49 | Link #12710 | |
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if Syria falls, its likely to be reverese, and most of the victims would be Sunni. and the Saudi's wish Saddam was still around today. he may have been a prick (to put it mildly) but he kept Iraq Balanced, and was useful in keeping Iran in check. now that Iraq and Egypt are no longer in the game, its basically down to Saudi arabia and the Gulf states vs the Shia axis. I don't think they like those odds.
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2011-03-25, 21:07 | Link #12711 |
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it's like Airbender and DBZ live action movie all over again http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/03/23...ovie-protests/ |
2011-03-25, 21:14 | Link #12712 |
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Online poker: US states gamble on making it legal
This is like the Prohibition era, they ban it at first only to legalize it cause they were strap for cash.
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2011-03-25, 21:52 | Link #12713 | |
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2011-03-26, 04:35 | Link #12715 |
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Canadian government falls, election set for May
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72O0U820110325 Everyone did know than it was comming ...
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2011-03-28, 07:25 | Link #12717 |
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Party defends Merkel against critics after election
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72Q1ZS20110328 Clinton rules out U.S. Syria involvement http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72Q1X920110327 Brazil's Olympic push isn't winning any medals http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72Q18820110327
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2011-03-28, 09:22 | Link #12720 | |
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(if she were to come to Italy, on the other hand......) |
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