2011-09-22, 15:26 | Link #181 | |
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It could probably drawed more simpathy to the Hucks if their backstories or at least a good glimpse at their lives and motives was made earlier. That was the saving grace for the Wolkenritter to most of the fanbase. We only spent like three weeks before starting to notice why they aren't that bad. The Hucks apparently are on the verge of receive their characterization ....after near two freakin years! By this point various readers already taken them for irredeemable monsters and others just abandoned the story altogheter. I guess the people more emphatic with that kind of characters will be the ones who will accept their excuses even after all they done for two years.
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2011-09-22, 15:34 | Link #182 | |
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I don`t know what it says unfortunately...
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2011-09-22, 15:39 | Link #183 | |
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Yes, right now the odds are stacked against the heroines. That's the entire bloody point of creating antagonists in the first place. Quote:
Though I don't see any reason for Curren to have some sort of special origin to be competent. She could just be competent, and use that competence to live her life as an infected. Quote:
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2011-09-22, 15:55 | Link #186 |
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Hahah true but what I meant was not experiences in battling but on how to deal with people, politics, those types of stuff. Not saying that Section Six is bad but that they never had to continuous evade law enforcements for a long period of time while protecting all of their members. So in a way, Curren knows exactly how to keep the cat mouse game going while preventing an all out war with TSAB fully going after them.
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2011-09-22, 15:55 | Link #187 | |
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I don`t think the Wolkenritters have much experience in leadership and command... They are soldiers more than commanders.
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2011-09-22, 15:57 | Link #188 | |
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2011-09-22, 16:01 | Link #189 | |
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If they're supossed to be the new main characters of the franchise(alongside the Thoma trio) at least i want to know more about them. This is more or less like the Saiyan or Cell saga, any non-saiyan, save for few exceptions, will be utterly useless in battles after this point. And by Saiyan i mean Eclipse, and by exceptions i mean Isis, Subaru, Nanoha and Fate.
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2011-09-22, 16:04 | Link #190 | ||
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It's another of those plotholes you just mentioned. I also never hear people claim that A's was perfect, just that it was the best of the three seasons. It really is, and still is. |
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2011-09-22, 16:08 | Link #191 |
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Don't count chapter numbers as a choice to where it's a good idea to start breaking into backgrounds, that's something better determined by where the plot is. And indeed, after the fight such an opportunity came, and immediately we got the tip of the iceberg called the Icis Enigma, and the following chapters started digging into the Hucks.
Also, tiny detail but lets not forget that the majority of the background of the Wolkies was delegated to sound stage material. StrikerS sound stage material. We only got our first visual glimpse in Vivid. I don't expect many flashbacks in Force if they follow that particular pattern. Personality and motivations, yes. Flashbacks? Not so much. |
2011-09-22, 16:12 | Link #192 | |
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How much page space has the manga devoted to scenes of Lily and Isis being naked, compared to revealing details about the Huckebein? |
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2011-09-22, 16:13 | Link #193 | |
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"19 chapters are more than enough for some stories to flesh out their characters". Not every stories is like and must follow that. Tsuzuki probabl have his own plans for the pacing of the Huck's development. Even in Vivid, the development is slow but it's there. We slowly and surely get to know more about each character besides the main cast.
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2011-09-22, 16:15 | Link #195 | ||
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Both of these crucial details are complete ciphers as far the Huckebein are concerned. Also, why are there so many Huckebein? There are so many that few of them have actually done anything in the past two years / 19 chapters. Wouldn't a smaller cast have worked just as well? Quote:
Heck, Lily being naked was considered so important that they had to introduce a brand new main character just to fix that situation. And provide another girl to strip naked. Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2011-09-22 at 23:34. |
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2011-09-22, 16:18 | Link #196 | |
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To be honest, the amount of fanservice in Force has been very modest. The sretchiness on the plot comes mostly from overly drawn basic moves from the characters, bad pacing in most battles and the fact that they spent two years showing just one aspect of the Hucks again and again: that they're ruthless jerks. We already know that, move on!
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2011-09-22, 16:20 | Link #198 | |
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"I haven't been following the series too well." Perhaps it's time for you to follow the series then judge how much service is provided. Like Akiyoshi had said, it's pretty modest.
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And still ViVid feels better executed than Force characterization wise.
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