2011-08-21, 12:35 | Link #3561 |
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Depends on what treatment you're talking about. If you mean medical and immediately getting trained afterwards, no. But I have no reason to believe another unit that could secure him wouldn't give him at least the medical attention they have, and inform his relatives of the event. They might have put him under medical supervision (indeed I would expect them to), but I see no reason to believe another unit would immediately start performing experiments without consent.
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2011-08-21, 12:40 | Link #3562 |
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They wouldn't, but maybe they'd isolate him as a percaution against him going berserk.
They might also be more inclined to obey if they were told to hand him over to another group that may or may not be on the up and up. Subaru would most certainly fight it if she were told to give him to people who are "totally not suspicious, I swear!" He did get lucky that he was picked up by his loved ones.
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2011-08-21, 13:23 | Link #3563 | |
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Unless said group so happens to be the government of the place they captured him, I can't see any viable reason why the TSAB would simply hand over Thoma. |
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2011-08-21, 14:18 | Link #3565 |
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Guys, guys, you're conveniently forgetting that those labs are much more probably property of "Vandin Corporation". Supported by the fact that, at the moment, they're the only ones canonically in possesion of one of such labs and the results of their investigation already started to pay off in the form of the Book and Divider replicas. Unless some connection gets implied between them and the TSAB i still can give the naive Bureau a chance xD.
About Tohma VS. Reinforce let's take some things into consideration: 1.- Tohma is against killing but his book isn't 2.- Reinforce can destroy worlds but Tohma can end all life and energy within an area at least as big as Two Warships. 3.- Tohma got "defeated" because the heroes have Anti-Anti-Magic stuff which Reinforce lacks(also really good luck), even the strongest of the conventional mages represent no more threat to a Tohma-level Eclipse Driver than the strongest Ant. So yeah i guess it will reduce to who is able to destroy the conditions of survival of the other(i wonder if a full fledged Eclipse Driver can survive IN SPACE! xD).
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2011-08-21, 14:18 | Link #3566 |
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Oh, this argument again. The big bad TSAB is gonna abuse the Eclipse Infectees, waaaaaaaah. There's no proof of that that the writer has actually followed up on, but I'll say it's going to happen anyway!
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2011-08-21, 14:19 | Link #3567 | |
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2011-08-21, 14:47 | Link #3568 | |
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And yet everyone keeps saying "It's not possible because the Bureau is pure and just and good and there's no way they'd ever do anything wrong!" despite the fact that we have 3 separate occasions where Bureau personnel were behind everything. Don't generalize the Bureau based on how messianic Nanoha and her pals are.
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2011-08-21, 14:52 | Link #3569 |
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Nobody is saying that xDU. I'm not against the idea of some radicall cells whitng the TSAB but i'm against the idea that the TSAB is an eeevil organization as a whole xDU. You talk about them as if they were commanded by Lex Luthor xDU.
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2011-08-21, 15:04 | Link #3571 |
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I specifically said that the Bureau as a whole isn't evil. All it would take would be to have some one like Lex giving out orders, and those orders have to be obeyed.
Their motives probably aren't evil either, just very extremist. The lives of a few Eclipse infectees are nothing if it means protecting the universe. They seem very preoccupied with capturing the Huckebein instead of, ya know, looking for the people spreading the virus around, or the ones who actually tried to kill Thoma and Lily. And I have. Might not be very concrete, but no less so than the counter arguments that say the Bureau isn't involved on any level.
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2011-08-21, 15:33 | Link #3573 |
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Instead we know for a fact that the Bureau was cooperating with them in the search for Thoma.
If they somehow managed to dispose of all incriminating evidence before the Bureau came to investigate that much is applause worthy. But then that giant whole in the cieling requires some explaining.
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2011-08-21, 15:41 | Link #3575 |
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Well how many times have you made this argument, and people have asked you for some proof of it in THIS story? You'd think you'd have realized it's not one worth making anymore since people will just counter with something you can't back. If you say it's a possibility, then so is pigs flying, potentially.
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Great treatment? Probably not. Doesn't mean the only option would be "MWAHAHHA! Obey us or perish!" one, y'know What, you've never heard the terminology "Asymmetrical Warfare?"
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