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C.A. · 2008-12-09, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Not weightless, but it reduces the weight of the Gundam. Gundam Virtue weighed less than a Union Flag.

I see, but I guess the higher output of GN Particles, the less weight the Gundam is. 00 Raiser with that kind of output would surely make its weight insignificant.

vektar · 2008-12-09, 20:04

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Originally Posted by C.A.

I see, but I guess the higher output of GN Particles, the less weight the Gundam is. 00 Raiser with that kind of output would surely make its weight insignificant.

lol that dont help the kit when you try to stand it up though...lol oh well thats what a stand is for.

Nerroth · 2008-12-09, 20:55

Oh, as an aside - it's neat how you can set up the beam saber hilt so that it looks like it's about to be drawn!

Spoiler for HG 00:

LightningZERO · 2008-12-09, 22:50

00 Raiser looks awesome, especially the big sword.

Thought it won't be included in the HG kits...

Nerroth · 2008-12-09, 22:51

I don't mind buying it separately for my HG 00, though.

(Any word on how long it should take the HG Mr. Bushido Ahead to filter over to Canadian or US retailers?)

LoweGear · 2008-12-09, 23:42

The GN Sword 2 beam saber blades are variable length:

Standard length:

Trans-Am

Bigger blades is

LightningZERO · 2008-12-09, 23:59

Wow. Going to chop Memento Mori in half?

patnam · 2008-12-10, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear

The GN Sword 2 beam saber blades are variable length:

Standard length:

Trans-Am

Bigger blades is

Master Jedi Gundam!!!

JackRydden224 · 2008-12-10, 01:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoweGear

The GN Sword 2 beam saber blades are variable length:

Standard length:

Trans-Am

Bigger blades is

These are the RD 00-Raiser right?

Do we know if the 1/100 00 Raiser set is getting them or not?

Nerroth · 2008-12-10, 01:37

I don't care overly much for the overblown Trans-Am size, personally.

(If they were supposed to be that big, at least make the 00 hold it like a lance, not swung around like a sword.)

JackRydden224 · 2008-12-10, 01:45

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Originally Posted by Nerroth

I don't care overly much for the overblown Trans-Am size, personally.

(If they were supposed to be that big, at least make the 00 hold it like a lance, not swung around like a sword.)

Graham Acker would get nose bleed if he sees 00 swings them in lance form.

Which reminds me, we haven't seen 00 combine them in the series yet have we?

LoweGear · 2008-12-10, 01:52

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Originally Posted by JackRydden224

These are the RD 00-Raiser right?

Do we know if the 1/100 00 Raiser set is getting them or not?

Yup, the above is for the RD O-Raiser, while the second one is for the Deluxe (DX) set.

And the 1/100 00 Raiser has no indication of having those beam blades.

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Originally Posted by Nerroth

(If they were supposed to be that big, at least make the 00 hold it like a lance, not swung around like a sword.)

Given that beam blades are near weightless themselves, that'd be a rather moot point.

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Originally Posted by JackRydden224

Which reminds me, we haven't seen 00 combine them in the series yet have we?

Nope, we haven't

Nerroth · 2008-12-10, 01:58

It's not just a matter of the weight, it's about the kind of fighting stance one would try to use with such an ungainly weapon.

Even if it didn't weigh much more, if anything, compared to a non-activated GN Sword, it would still make sense to at least try and use it double-handed, and to adopt a different stance or technique when trying to fight with it.

(And using two at a time is asking for trouble...)

LoweGear · 2008-12-10, 02:18

But weight is a factor: The reason most long weapons are held with two hands is because using current materials, such weapons become heavier as they become longer. For a sword, ideally one would want to have the maximum length with minimum weight. If any swordsman had the ability to wield a large bladed weapon with a single hand they'd do so.

The near-weightless nature of beam weapons means that you can get maximum length for the minimum of weight, which allows for large weapons that can be wielded as though they were single-handed weapons. It's ungainly only if it was heavy as much as it is large, but as shown the blades themselves aren't really that wide, just long, and being made out of energy they won't really weigh much (at least in-universe; model kits are another matter).

The style of how a weapon is handled is determined by the weapon's properties and function, and not simply on its aesthetics.

duotiga · 2008-12-10, 07:04

the huge blade reminds me of epyon

RAVNEN · 2008-12-10, 08:28

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Originally Posted by duotiga

the huge blade reminds me of epyon

Yup,the beam part resemble Epyon,only the color are different.

Hopefully the 1/144 also got beam part.Can't wait for Cherudim 1/100 this late January.

Knight_SV · 2008-12-10, 09:58

my 1/100 00 finally arrived today and i'm going straight modifying it to having waist, and its not difficult at all and rather easy. perhaps bandai realise that many people didn't like their decision to made 00 lack of waist joint so they make it easy to modify

duotiga · 2008-12-10, 10:37

sneak peek of tmr release

LightningZERO · 2008-12-10, 10:42

The base is beautiful! But why the separately sold version is white?

Can't wait for the information on 00 Raiser too!

duotiga · 2008-12-10, 10:43

i know what pose to make for my 1/100 00 raiser

2008-12-09, 20:55	Link #9163
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 43	Oh, as an aside - it's neat how you can set up the beam saber hilt so that it looks like it's about to be drawn! Spoiler for HG 00: __________________

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LightningZERO You are Dominated! Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Earth Age: 35	00 Raiser looks awesome, especially the big sword. Thought it won't be included in the HG kits... __________________ その再生を破壊する Destroy This Rebirth

2008-12-09, 22:51	Link #9165
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 43	I don't mind buying it separately for my HG 00, though. (Any word on how long it should take the HG Mr. Bushido Ahead to filter over to Canadian or US retailers?) __________________

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LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	The GN Sword 2 beam saber blades are variable length: Standard length: Trans-Am Bigger blades is __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2008-12-09, 23:59	Link #9167
LightningZERO You are Dominated! Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Earth Age: 35	Wow. Going to chop Memento Mori in half? __________________ その再生を破壊する Destroy This Rebirth

2008-12-10, 01:37	Link #9170
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 43	I don't care overly much for the overblown Trans-Am size, personally. (If they were supposed to be that big, at least make the 00 hold it like a lance, not swung around like a sword.) __________________

2008-12-10, 01:58	Link #9173
Nerroth NePoi! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 43	It's not just a matter of the weight, it's about the kind of fighting stance one would try to use with such an ungainly weapon. Even if it didn't weigh much more, if anything, compared to a non-activated GN Sword, it would still make sense to at least try and use it double-handed, and to adopt a different stance or technique when trying to fight with it. (And using two at a time is asking for trouble...) __________________

2008-12-10, 02:18	Link #9174
LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	But weight is a factor: The reason most long weapons are held with two hands is because using current materials, such weapons become heavier as they become longer. For a sword, ideally one would want to have the maximum length with minimum weight. If any swordsman had the ability to wield a large bladed weapon with a single hand they'd do so. The near-weightless nature of beam weapons means that you can get maximum length for the minimum of weight, which allows for large weapons that can be wielded as though they were single-handed weapons. It's ungainly only if it was heavy as much as it is large, but as shown the blades themselves aren't really that wide, just long, and being made out of energy they won't really weigh much (at least in-universe; model kits are another matter). The style of how a weapon is handled is determined by the weapon's properties and function, and not simply on its aesthetics. __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2008-12-10, 07:04	Link #9175
duotiga Zander Yuusha Kyorugold Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Age: 40	the huge blade reminds me of epyon

2008-12-10, 09:58	Link #9177
Knight_SV Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	my 1/100 00 finally arrived today and i'm going straight modifying it to having waist, and its not difficult at all and rather easy. perhaps bandai realise that many people didn't like their decision to made 00 lack of waist joint so they make it easy to modify

2008-12-10, 10:37	Link #9178
duotiga Zander Yuusha Kyorugold Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Age: 40	sneak peek of tmr release

2008-12-10, 10:42	Link #9179
LightningZERO You are Dominated! Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Earth Age: 35	The base is beautiful! But why the separately sold version is white? Can't wait for the information on 00 Raiser too! __________________ その再生を破壊する Destroy This Rebirth

2008-12-10, 10:43	Link #9180
duotiga Zander Yuusha Kyorugold Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Age: 40	i know what pose to make for my 1/100 00 raiser