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Leo_Otaku · 2006-05-22, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

While I'm at it, same goes for the excessive higurashi (cicada) crys during Keiichi and Oishi's talk inside the car. The cries swell everytime something "big" was revealed, and after the second or third time, the effect really cheapens the atmosphere.

I think you know that they are like everywhere and can be heard at like all times in the summer in Japan regardless of how they use it.

Sushi-Y · 2006-05-22, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Leo_Otaku

I think you know that they are like everywhere and can be heard at like all times in the summer in Japan regardless of how they use it.

I grew up in a place with cicadas/higurashi in the Summer, so I know very well just how noisy the little buggers are. I'm talking about the fact that everytime Oishi (or anyone else, for that matter) reveals something "shocking" or "important", it's followed by a loud burst of higurashi cry. It's fine if the effect was used sparingly or spaced out over time, with when it's used over and over again in a short period of time, it just doesn't feel chilling anymore.

Besides, higurashi (english name: Evening Cicada), unlike regular cicadas, only cry during early~late evenings, and they sound different too. So having the effect in the middle of the day doesn't make much sense either.

(For example, the 10:00 mark in Episode 2 is a good example of what regular cicadas sound like, while the 17:45 mark shows what higurashi sound like)

orion · 2006-05-22, 20:55

But you've played the game too. Maybe, repeat exposure has lessened the effect of those cicadas. I kind of like it. The "hello people, important clue" sound effect for those who need it is nice.

For those into MADs, within this torrent file are these MADs.

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Originally Posted by Higurashi Fan Pack #1

MAD Video 1.mpg = (MAD)[ひぐらしのなく頃に] ひとみすいれん＊＊＊cide.mpg
MAD Video 2.mpg = (MAD)[ひぐらしのなく頃に] なかない君と嘆きの世界高解像度 Ver.mpg
MAD Video 3.mpg = (MAD)[ひぐらしのなく頃に]ひぐらしのミカタ完全版.mpg

*If this was inappropriate to post, I apologize.*

Circular Logic · 2006-05-23, 08:24

Something else occured to me:

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Shay · 2006-05-23, 08:59

Best episode yet IMO. This episode sorta confirmed my suspicions that it was in fact Mion on the phone in episode 6. Though I'm still not fully convinced....

And either Rena went to the same detective academy as Sherlock Holmes or she is a deceiving/yet obvious, homicidal-chibi-psychopath.

She practically spelled it out to Keichi, by saying she will never disappear.

I have to admit I still don't know what the hell is going on, but I'm finding this to be the most fascinating anime of the year. 10/10 for this ep.

physics223 · 2006-05-23, 09:32

It is. The most fascinating anime of the year, that is. Now if only Ayu speeded up their releases, I'm going to watch it all in a day.

ludacris10 · 2006-05-23, 09:59

Hey i thought they all died during episode 3-4?

Gains · 2006-05-23, 10:23

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Originally Posted by ludacris10

Hey i thought they all died during episode 3-4?

Watanagashi is like a new game.

For me, this ep gets a 10, because after watching it, I got a nightmare in which I am chased by a twin who wants to tear my intensines apart

Is it just me or am I thinking the worst for Keiichi when

Spoiler:

For Onikakushi,

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Circular Logic · 2006-05-23, 11:45

Spoiler:

Matrim · 2006-05-23, 11:52

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Maybe Mion's actions in Onikakushi is because she didn't want Keiichi to be involved in Hinamizawa's situation (she likes him) so she decided to lie to Keiichi, and her outburst of anger towards Oishi can be because of that moment of anger and her position as a yakuza heir. Keiichi misunderstands that Mion wants to kill Oishi by unleashing Oyashiro-sama, when in fact Mion is just angry and her outburst relates to her power.

Yes, I think this is an example of how the new story arc shows the events from the previous one in a different one. In Onikakushi the only explanations for Mion's angry remark "I should have killed Oishi" seem to be that she is either a crazy murderer or that her words were product of Keiichi's paranoia. Now, as we know that she the heir of Yakuza family her talk about killing policemen suddenly seems to make sense.

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**monir** · 2006-05-23, 11:59

If anyone cares, yesterday (May 22) was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's birthday. Rena must have known ahead and payed a tribute to him by playing the role of the detective.

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I don't think Oishi stated that Shion went missing after the night of the festival, only that she went missing as stated to Keiichi in the car. I too originally thought he meant that, but after watching the car interrogation scene again, I realize that he said she's missing, with no time noted. The reason I checked was because Oishi saw both Keiichi and Shion (or Mion) at the Library, so that's probably the last time anybody saw her, so it wouldn't make sense for Oishi not to think of that day. I suspect that Shion was reported missing the day after the library meeting (or the day before car interrogation).

I'll definitely rewatch this episode at the first chance I get. This inspector, he must be playing a huge role in this mystery. I mean, it's extraordinary that anyone would involve a kid in a homicide investigation, especially when one of the murderer from the dam incident is possibly still at large! Not to mention, people are regularly dying/missing each year for the past 4 years after the ritual.

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Memento has a good timeline description on his blog, so you may want to refer to that as an aid.

Thanks. I've been reluctant to seek any aid so far in this series because it has been so much fun guessing. Haven't even read most of the threads other than the episode discussion threads and the poem-thread.

On a random note, as I was reading one of the poems, I thought of a scene from the earlier episode out of no where, when Keiichi's mom was talking to him. Funnily enough, she didn't have a "face." The poem is in the following and the bold part is what triggered the recollection of that scene...

"I cannot quench your thirst
Because even if you yearn for the truth, you refuse to believe in it.

I cannot quench your thirst
Because no such truth exists that you are in anticipation for.

But I still want to quench your thirst.
Because I am the one that put you into the desert."

npal · 2006-05-23, 12:55

Damn, and I was calling Asa of Shuffle green-haired monster. That Mion scene was disturbing to say the least

I mean, I couldn't read the subs cause I was freaking out and then I had to watch it again, and it was still freaking scary

Yeah yeah, I'm not into thriller business much. I need my Mikuru dosage...

Other than that, I don't have a clue what's going on, the storyline seems a bit messed up or is this a totally different story? But anyway, I get enough clues to keep me from feeling totally frustrated.

Rena

rooboy · 2006-05-23, 13:28

It's supposed to be the same story, but the circumstances are subtly twisted each time to change the outcome.

Sort of like the movie "Sliding Doors".

npal · 2006-05-23, 13:30

Yeah, Circular was kind enough to explain it. Well, this throws the series in a new light. I don't need to worry about not getting something

Ep 7 was giving enough clues but I had trouble creating the actual timeline. Well, since there's no actual timeline and it's different anytime, I can rest now

Thanks.

Freakman · 2006-05-23, 15:37

Gains : about that text from the preview you were quoting, I realize I actually translated it somehow wrong, I should have double checked from the game
slight spoiler for the beginning of ep 8 on that particular point :

Spoiler:

Rasuberi · 2006-05-23, 16:32

Oh the despair. I haven't been able to read or post here a lot due to some internet troubles I was having. I've never been so worried about seeing an anime right when it comes out... I am very thankful I was able to watch 6 and 7 on my mother's labtop when they came out.

Ah... episode 7, wow. I am confused beyond belief. Damn you Shion.

Spoiler:

I've come up with so many possibilities of just who is who through Watanagashi... I can not seem to come up with ideas for what's actually going on in Higurashi anymore. Are we really seeing Shion when we see "Shion"? And the same with "Mion"?

The first two episodes (up till the end of Watanagashi festival) have more possiblities for the two to be switching around in my mind (in my main hypothesis). I think in episode 7 we only see one of the girls. So... the question is who is who?

I believe the most important part to know who is who is when they were in the storehouse. If that was Shion, I am completely confused as to what is going on. On the other hand, I find Mion pretending to be Shion in this seen to be more probable. As someone mentioned earlier it would be a good chance for Shion to get rid of her sister by playing along with this game (by switching places with her). I'm not too good at explaining this but... Shion must feel she has something to gain by letting Mion do what I think she did. It's obvious the girls are jealous of eachother and I believe it has to do with Keiichi, and possibly Satoshi. Oh dear, I can't wait for Meakashi-hen~!

If that was Mion with Keiichi, Takano and Tomitake then I believe Mion went missing as "Shion" just after she ran down the stairs. As much as I love Shion, she appears to be capable of evil deeds moreso than her sister is. The ladder scene also makes much more sense as Shion since Mion was close to Satoko, Mion is too kind to accuse her of being the cause of everyone's misfortune. And that psycho laughing screams Shion to me rather than Mion... I don't have much evidence as most of my speculation is from character analysis.

I feel like the implication of Mion being the "Shion" at the library and on the phone later, as well as for all of episode 7 because "Shion" is missing... is to through us off. It just has to be Shion that's psycho... it's what makes sense in my head. (for whatever reason that is.)

I'm no good at concluding things so... I can't wait to see those five inch nails~!

Episode 8 will be happiness~! HAPPINESS~ *waits unpatiently*

Circular Logic · 2006-05-23, 16:34

From looking at the poems...

Spoiler:

aliensporebomb · 2006-05-23, 17:52

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Originally Posted by Circular Logic

From looking at the poems...

Spoiler:

Possibly but:

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Clever anime. Most diabolical of the year.

If they made this a live action movie in the U.S. it would be a HUGE
success. As it is, it is too extreme for most but the light parts are
super light and the dark parts are super dark and nothing in between.

Newprimus · 2006-05-23, 19:43

Knowledge is power. Power to come to 'OH SHIT' revelations like this one:

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/Start spoilers for Fatal Frame II

In FFII, one finds out about a gruesome ritual that requires the elder of the twin to strangle the younger. You play Mio (imouto) and the game skilfully maneuvers one into being fearful of Mayu (ane), supposedly the designated one to kill you. That is until you find out the village’s traditional position on delegating seniority in twins birth. It appears that prior to a 1875 Meji’s edict (an actual edict that dictates the firstborn of twins to be the elder) the firstborn is seen as the younger of the twins.

/end Spoilers for Fatal Frame II

Obviously the blogger of http://www.yayapapayaz.com/hontouni/?p=369 had a much more intimate knowledge of Japanese history than myself or most people.

This, combined with the fact that the Sonozakis are an apparently ancient family with ancient traditions, puts a real spin to Rika's dialogue about the cats.

Of course, it could just be that Hinamizawa doesn't share the same customs as that village mentioned above, but it's still something to keep an eye on.

papaquong · 2006-05-23, 22:19

this one actually made my fears rise up... especially the ending... i couldnt figure if she was happy or crying... man... whats shion true identity... The twins are both evil as hell.

by the way.. you know for epis 4-7, is it another theory or just another story?

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2006-05-23, 08:24	Link #84
Circular Logic 土は幻に Fansubber Join Date: Dec 2005	Something else occured to me: Spoiler: No shady white van, no 'director', no mysterious men. This all seems to be the work of Mion alone...And yet, Tomitake died in the same way, 'no drug abuse'? Is it the same, or isn't it? ... That, and the Berkenstal poems seem to suggest there's no Oyashiro-sama work going on here, it's crazy Mion Last edited by Circular Logic; 2006-05-23 at 09:12.

2006-05-23, 09:32	Link #86
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	It is. The most fascinating anime of the year, that is. Now if only Ayu speeded up their releases, I'm going to watch it all in a day. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-05-23, 11:45	Link #89
Circular Logic 土は幻に Fansubber Join Date: Dec 2005	Spoiler: She's not a Yakuza heir, she is the head of the Yakuza, currently.

2006-05-23, 12:55	Link #92
npal I desire Tomorrow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: As far away from reality as possible Age: 41	Damn, and I was calling Asa of Shuffle green-haired monster. That Mion scene was disturbing to say the least I mean, I couldn't read the subs cause I was freaking out and then I had to watch it again, and it was still freaking scary Yeah yeah, I'm not into thriller business much. I need my Mikuru dosage... Other than that, I don't have a clue what's going on, the storyline seems a bit messed up or is this a totally different story? But anyway, I get enough clues to keep me from feeling totally frustrated. Rena __________________

2006-05-23, 08:59	Link #85
Shay Monarch Programmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Liverpool Age: 42	Best episode yet IMO. This episode sorta confirmed my suspicions that it was in fact Mion on the phone in episode 6. Though I'm still not fully convinced.... And either Rena went to the same detective academy as Sherlock Holmes or she is a deceiving/yet obvious, homicidal-chibi-psychopath. She practically spelled it out to Keichi, by saying she will never disappear. I have to admit I still don't know what the hell is going on, but I'm finding this to be the most fascinating anime of the year. 10/10 for this ep.

2006-05-23, 09:59	Link #87
ludacris10 Malay Anime Otaku! Join Date: Dec 2005	Hey i thought they all died during episode 3-4?

2006-05-23, 13:28	Link #93
rooboy Umeboshi! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tejas Age: 48	It's supposed to be the same story, but the circumstances are subtly twisted each time to change the outcome. Sort of like the movie "Sliding Doors". __________________

2006-05-23, 13:30	Link #94
npal I desire Tomorrow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: As far away from reality as possible Age: 41	Yeah, Circular was kind enough to explain it. Well, this throws the series in a new light. I don't need to worry about not getting something Ep 7 was giving enough clues but I had trouble creating the actual timeline. Well, since there's no actual timeline and it's different anytime, I can rest now Thanks. __________________

2006-05-23, 15:37	Link #95
Freakman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	Gains : about that text from the preview you were quoting, I realize I actually translated it somehow wrong, I should have double checked from the game slight spoiler for the beginning of ep 8 on that particular point : Spoiler: Oishi tells that to Keiichi after he explains what happened in the past few days. So "talking" might have been a better word than "confessing" (although it's partly a confession since Keiichi never told Oishi anything).

2006-05-23, 16:32	Link #96
Rasuberi Give me things to draw!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Florida Age: 34	Oh the despair. I haven't been able to read or post here a lot due to some internet troubles I was having. I've never been so worried about seeing an anime right when it comes out... I am very thankful I was able to watch 6 and 7 on my mother's labtop when they came out. Ah... episode 7, wow. I am confused beyond belief. Damn you Shion. Spoiler: I've come up with so many possibilities of just who is who through Watanagashi... I can not seem to come up with ideas for what's actually going on in Higurashi anymore. Are we really seeing Shion when we see "Shion"? And the same with "Mion"? The first two episodes (up till the end of Watanagashi festival) have more possiblities for the two to be switching around in my mind (in my main hypothesis). I think in episode 7 we only see one of the girls. So... the question is who is who? I believe the most important part to know who is who is when they were in the storehouse. If that was Shion, I am completely confused as to what is going on. On the other hand, I find Mion pretending to be Shion in this seen to be more probable. As someone mentioned earlier it would be a good chance for Shion to get rid of her sister by playing along with this game (by switching places with her). I'm not too good at explaining this but... Shion must feel she has something to gain by letting Mion do what I think she did. It's obvious the girls are jealous of eachother and I believe it has to do with Keiichi, and possibly Satoshi. Oh dear, I can't wait for Meakashi-hen~! If that was Mion with Keiichi, Takano and Tomitake then I believe Mion went missing as "Shion" just after she ran down the stairs. As much as I love Shion, she appears to be capable of evil deeds moreso than her sister is. The ladder scene also makes much more sense as Shion since Mion was close to Satoko, Mion is too kind to accuse her of being the cause of everyone's misfortune. And that psycho laughing screams Shion to me rather than Mion... I don't have much evidence as most of my speculation is from character analysis. I feel like the implication of Mion being the "Shion" at the library and on the phone later, as well as for all of episode 7 because "Shion" is missing... is to through us off. It just has to be Shion that's psycho... it's what makes sense in my head. (for whatever reason that is.) I'm no good at concluding things so... I can't wait to see those five inch nails~! Episode 8 will be happiness~! HAPPINESS~ waits unpatiently __________________ 乃絵は私のお嫁さんです。

2006-05-23, 16:34	Link #97
Circular Logic 土は幻に Fansubber Join Date: Dec 2005	From looking at the poems... Spoiler: I cannot quench your thirst Because even if you yearn for the truth, you refuse to believe in it. No idea... I cannot quench your thirst Because no such truth exists that you are in anticipation for. It's simply Mion? No funny stuff? But I still want to quench your thirst. Because I am the one the that put you into the desert. Doesn't this sound a lot like Shion?

2006-05-23, 22:19	Link #100
papaquong Anime Fan Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Age: 34	this one actually made my fears rise up... especially the ending... i couldnt figure if she was happy or crying... man... whats shion true identity... The twins are both evil as hell. by the way.. you know for epis 4-7, is it another theory or just another story?