2009-05-14, 09:38 | Link #61 | |||
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Secondly, Obito's dead is not in Kakashi's hands. Considering Kakashi's sense of responsibility, he feels responsibility for anything that appears around him (I think the same happened when he could not do anything about the fight between Sasuke and Naruto, two of his students). What you can compare to the way Obito died (if he did so) was if Yahiko would have died fighting Hanzou, and protecting one during the fight. Nothing like that happened. It was a sudden unexpected death. On the other hand, when Kakashi and Obito were trying to rescue Rin, I am sure Kakashi had the possibilities calculated in his head, and the possibility of a failure was already there, which can be considered as a trigger of sense and logic. Quote:
The best you can do to compare Itachi and Nagato would be their missions and and a mind accepting their missions. Itachi for the Uchiha clan, and Nagato for the world. Quote:
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2009-05-14, 12:44 | Link #63 |
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Its all matter of perspective. In anyone's perspective, people will think Nagato's lost is not all that compared to other ninjas' story. However, in Nagato's perspective, they all matter.
Those people he lost are almost his everything. His parents are the only people in that time that he looks up to. Their place is destroyed by war and people just keeps to their own family. Nagato losing the only family he had that time is very painful; he just not only lost his parent, he also lost his only sanctuary in that war torn place. Then he also lost Yahiko, who he considered as very important person in his life. Not only did Yahiko made him realized what he wanted to be, he also gives Nagato strength and hope. Yahiko's like a friend/mentor/idol/god/brother/father/whatever figure that Nagato looked up to. And losing that guy all at once, its just too much to bear.... Then there's the fact he had the power and destiny placed upon him. After he realized his powers, I bet he felt something that he could have done this and that to save his parents. He killed the shinobis; why didn't he realize his power before, enough to save his parents? Then there's Yahiko incident. He already realized his answers to Jiraiya, made his decision, trained to be the shinobi that will live to protect his friends. Then what happened? He couldn't even decide how to save Konan. He couldn't do a thing to stop Yahiko killing himself. What kind of a man of destiny is he if he can't even protect those people he cares about? What is the value of his power? Last edited by kakakka; 2009-05-14 at 13:21. |
2009-05-14, 13:48 | Link #64 |
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Thats is true, at the end Negato just couldn’t handle that he lived in a world in war, which everything "bad" that happened to him was collateral, his plan or revenge at the world is just a sorry excuse for getting even at what happened to him.
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2009-05-14, 20:15 | Link #67 |
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^The full raw is out. The statue does look extraordinarily similar to the Genryuu Kyuu Fuujin, and it does directly connect to Nagato via black rods. As Nagato is connected, his body slowly becomes dilapidated and emaciated to the point were he looks like he does presently. The attack that the statue uses, though, is vastly similar to the so-called "King of Hell" technique that Naraka Pain uses but it is very different from the Genryuu Kyuu Fuujin technique used to absorb the Bijuu's chakra.
Additionally, Hanzou doesn't use a simple Katon technique to destroy Nagato's legs, rather he used some sort of Doton technique combined with large amounts of Explosive Seals. It was fast and brutal. Sadly enough, the quality of the raw is so bad, much of the dialogue is hard to make out. But, we should expect a cleaner raw and possibly a full translation by midnight (EST) tonight. edit: Nagato does use Shinra Tensei to repel a massive kunai attack. So, the technique is truly a Rinnegan technique Last edited by james0246; 2009-05-14 at 20:26. |
2009-05-14, 22:36 | Link #69 |
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Is it just me or is the present Pein seem incredibly weaker than his former self. Or that's kind of the impression I got from his flashback this chapter. Pein is awesome now, but the Pein in the flashback was just wicked, more to my liking!
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2009-05-15, 03:06 | Link #70 |
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Great chapter. I'm really REALLY pleased that Naruto chose to take the high road. He's matured a lot. I also think he's carrying on Jiraiya's dream in a manner befitting his will of fire.
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2009-05-15, 03:23 | Link #73 |
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OH, OH, Nagato's summon...
I thought Nagato's summon looked familiar, then I remembered it looked a lot like the Aeon Anima from Final Fantasy X...Further digging into my memory, I also reminded myself that Anima's special attack was called "Pain"... BLOW IT OUT OF THE BACK OF YOUR F-ING MIND A certain someone is either making a very sneaky video game reference, or is lacking some originality in character design...
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2009-05-15, 05:22 | Link #76 |
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Anyhow...Really interesting chapter, finally got to see why Pain had a detrimental physical condition. Those stakes really did suck out his life force in exchange for that massive power. I am guessing that power he used on the ninjas, to save Yahiko, were somehow discovered along the way through battle experiences, until he found out that he could use vessels in order to divide these powers equally.
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2009-05-15, 05:36 | Link #77 |
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Good chapter Hanzou is badass, Kid Nagato was badass and crazy looking. That statue was alot similar to the one that is used to seal Bijuu, just younger, and the attack it uses looks just like the Dragon sealing jutsu, the only difference was that it was just one Dragon, instead of Nine Dragons.
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When some-one is responsible for ordering a genocide, sparking fuels that erupts into wars all for the sake of dominion and being a traitorous political s.o.b. that person seems alot less likable. |
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2009-05-15, 06:47 | Link #80 |
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Best chapter in weeks (so far)! The spoilers were pretty accurate.
I understand Nagato's sentiments but it I don't believe that his actions can be justified by all the pain he experienced. But then again people react to pain and tragedy differently. In his case, revenge is his way of coping. I couldn't judge him for that. |
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