2009-03-11, 18:52 | Link #3821 | |
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I think Gino, who is from a noble family, has some dificulties to understand how the world works (was it not stated in a magazine BTW when he was firstly introduced? As a guy from a noble family who doesn't really know how the normal people live?) |
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2009-03-11, 18:54 | Link #3822 |
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Turn 8, I believe, he suggests that they just cleanse the Japanese that Zero gathered. The majority of which are civilians. I believe he gets reprimanded by someone there for the insanity of his suggestion, I don't recall past it.
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2009-03-11, 18:57 | Link #3823 | ||
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But I don't remember the exact episode, either. People keep quoting it, though, so I guess the can point you to it. Quote:
Not that it excuses his actions, but it does explain his (borderline-)blind loyalty towards Britannia that he showed for most of the time, and it also implies that he doesn't have a "bad core".
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2009-03-11, 19:01 | Link #3824 | |
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At best he is a standard model Britannian with a gloomy (fine, not rotten) core that looks down on others. |
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2009-03-11, 19:01 | Link #3825 |
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Actually, he reasons that if they revolt they'll have the excuse to cleanse them. He's smart enough to know they just can't do it without the Elevens acting first. Also, he not only doesn't get called on it, the guy he's talking to answers with the standard "Yes, my Lord."
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2009-03-11, 19:02 | Link #3826 | ||
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2009-03-11, 19:06 | Link #3828 | |||
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2009-03-11, 19:12 | Link #3829 | ||
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Luciano seeking pleasure VS Gino's nationalism. You must understand why many find the former more disturbing.
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2009-03-11, 19:15 | Link #3830 | |
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Its true, but, hey, like mom said, make friends anyway you can.
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I find it to be a situation of: Luciano's extremely prideful nationalism and the sadistic pleasure he draws from it. vs. Gino's fascist nationalism. They seem equally bad to me, almost interchangeable. If Luciano is only a loon on the battlefield, while Gino waits for excuses to "remove" a bunch of people, I can't say either is better than the other. Its more like different cases of equal severity. And just to satisfy Godwin's law, Gino has the mindset of a Nazi, Luciano has the mindset of Conan the Barbarian. |
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2009-03-11, 19:22 | Link #3831 | |
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In the meantime what are your thoughts about the attempted rape?
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2009-03-11, 19:24 | Link #3832 |
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Stems back into the idea of fame and glory. She is the ace of the black knights. For the same reason he attacked Suzaku, because he was the fame of the Elevens.
I do not approve of it, but it certainly fits into his character's motif. What do you think about my fulfillment of Godwin's law. |
2009-03-11, 19:26 | Link #3833 | |
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2009-03-11, 19:27 | Link #3834 | |
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Suzaku: "wait! they haven't done anything". Gino: "Indeed, this might be zero's strategy. But, now that this happened if Zero doesn't show up himself..." (I don't find the "yes my lordo". That's Guilford's line O_o ) As I see it, Gino does think the same as Guilford. He considers those million of japanese to be "rebels" who're doing a "revolt". So I ask it again, Does Gino ever say that he want to kill japaneses who live in Britannia as Elevens?____? |
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2009-03-11, 19:28 | Link #3835 | |
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2009-03-11, 19:31 | Link #3836 | |
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Gino: Zero is about to betray the Elevens. Soldier on comm: Won't there be a revolt? Gino: That is when we'll have the wonderful pretext to purge them. So yes, he's perfectly willing to kill otherwise innocent civilians.
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2009-03-11, 19:33 | Link #3837 | |
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But he's still talking about the Elevens who are siding with Lelouch (the one million people), no? He still sees them as rebels against britannia. He doesn't talk about the Elevens who accepted Britannia. Am I wrong?___? |
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2009-03-11, 19:56 | Link #3838 |
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They weren't siding with Lelouch, though, they were going along with the SAZ because Zero said to. You're arguing a point which has no relevance. No one in the show ever suggests just killing civilians for the sake of it. Flimsy though it may be, they usually do wait for an excuse for genocide. That said, Gino is already anticipating the chance to do this. He's not seeing them as rebels, he's seeing them as civilians he'll have an excuse to kill.
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2009-03-11, 22:23 | Link #3839 | |
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I want to know if you don't think it's at least some positive spin for Gino that he's not willing to resort to raping a POW. Who am I to question fate?
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2009-03-11, 22:27 | Link #3840 | |
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As for Gino, he gets as much props as the other KoR for not trying to rape her, but he does later tell her her people are inferior and tells her coldly that she has no hope for the future with a smile on his face. Deep down, the man is vicious. Is it fate when I do it on purpose? |
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