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SeijiSensei · 2020-11-10, 10:19

Supreme Court ruling on "faithless electors" from this July:

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The U.S. Supreme Court has unanimously upheld laws across the country that remove or punish rogue Electoral College delegates who refuse to cast their votes for the presidential candidate they were pledged to support.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/06/88516...constitutional

Anh_Minh · 2020-11-10, 10:36

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Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

Supreme Court ruling on "faithless electors" from this July:

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/06/88516...constitutional

If I'm reading this right, all it says is that laws to remove faithless electors are constitutional. And that it's possible that states can decide to do that even without a law.

It doesn't say that faithless votes are automatically invalid, especially if the governor and/or state legislature agree with it.

Blaat · 2020-11-10, 12:14

What are the chances of Trump being dragged out of the White House by security officials in January?

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Originally Posted by mangamuscle

Mazinger Z impact ending

Too soon man, too soon.

Sheba · 2020-11-10, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Blaat

What are the chances of Trump being dragged out of the White House by security officials in January?
Too soon man, too soon.

He is few steps away from staging a coup with his goons tho

https://twitter.com/_cingraham/statu...49513539940353

Kakurin · 2020-11-10, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Sheba

He is few steps away from staging a coup with his goons tho

https://twitter.com/_cingraham/statu...49513539940353

Meanwhile Mike Pompeo said there will be a 'smooth transition to a second Trump administration'.

Considering how many Republican voters in recent surveys express doubts over the election in the aftermath of Trump's loss (70% didn't believe the elections were free and fair, 72% believe there has been ballot manipulation and 64% believe the results are not reliable), McConnell and company are playing with fire by indulging Trump's antics. Sure, short-term it may benefit them with theirs and Trump's base, but in the long-run this will only drive the country further apart and closer to civil war-like state should domestic issues pop up again.

Guardian Enzo · 2020-11-10, 16:39

This is not about indulging Trump's fantasies. This is an attempted coup, that will succeed if it isn't stopped. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Eisdrache · 2020-11-10, 16:51

How would it succeed? They would have to present a case to the court and so far they have literally no evidence of widespread fraud. The total might shift a little after the recount but nowhere near enough to influence the result.

Key Board · 2020-11-10, 16:55

I'm treating this as a sign that military intervention might be a possible reality.
As someone said, there's probably a reason why he fired the Defense secretary and has started to bunker up around the White house.

Though I'm not sure who the branches will be loyal too.

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mangamuscle · 2020-11-10, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

This is not about indulging Trump's fantasies. This is an attempted coup, that will succeed if it isn't stopped. Wake up and smell the coffee.

but, but, but, but, there has never been a coup d'état in the short history of the USA ... *insert dramatic squirrel*

https://www.history.com/news/wilming...acre-1898-coup

cyberdemon · 2020-11-10, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Blaat

What are the chances of Trump being dragged out of the White House by security officials in January?
Too soon man, too soon.

Cohen thinks Trump will leave the White House for Christmas and then just never come back never admitting defeat.

Key Board · 2020-11-10, 19:46

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Cohen thinks Trump will leave the White House for Christmas and then just never come back never admitting defeat.

and try to form a "government in exile"?

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White House National Security Council Aide Is Named to Top Pentagon Post
Trump fired Mark Esper on Monday, setting off shifts among other officials at Pentagon

https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-h...imessage_share

something is definitely brewing

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ramlaen · 2020-11-10, 20:20

After House Democrats claim he recanted and the media ran with it...

YouTube

https://youtu.be/ibU5KVFCg4Y

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Originally Posted by Key Board

and try to form a "government in exile"?

edit: also

https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-h...imessage_share

something is definitely brewing

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Esper was fired because he wants to continue the forever war, do yourself a favor and don't get caught up in American left wing fantasies.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...08377798746114

mangamuscle · 2020-11-10, 20:32

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Originally Posted by ramlaen

Esper was fired because he wants to continue the forever war, do yourself a favor and don't get caught up in left wing fantasies.

https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1326241652990742528

You lack understanding on the meaning of "may be", hint, it does not mean "undoubtedly", 'murricans need to learn their mother language from people like me that have it as a second language

ramlaen · 2020-11-10, 20:38

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Originally Posted by mangamuscle

You lack understanding on the meaning of "may be", hint, it does not mean "undoubtedly", 'murricans need to learn their mother language from people like me that have it as a second language

You are certainly under no obligation to believe Jake Tapper, by all means continue to believe that Trump is plotting some sort of coup despite being the sitting POTUS.

Sheba · 2020-11-10, 21:22

USPS "whistleblower" recanted his allegations of voter frauds after being questioned:

https://twitter.com/OversightDems/st...89047933816836

cyberdemon · 2020-11-10, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Key Board

and try to form a "government in exile"?

edit: also

https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-h...imessage_share

something is definitely brewing

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That and he can keep up with his democrats stealing the presidency rant.

“I just went on vacation to have a wonder Christmas with my family. The democrats broke into the White House and now won’t let me back in.”

Ithekro · 2020-11-10, 21:32

Thing is. If he's not declared the winner, his term is up on January 20th. Even if no one is declared the winner and he does not concede. He is still out of office on that day if he had not officially won a second term.

cyberdemon · 2020-11-10, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Thing is. If he's not declared the winner, his term is up on January 20th. Even if no one is declared the winner and he does not concede. He is still out of office on that day if he had not officially won a second term.

No but at least to him it lets him save face with his voting base. His own pride and ego are what is at stake for him.

Neki Ecko · 2020-11-10, 22:43

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Originally Posted by ramlaen

After House Democrats claim he recanted and the media ran with it...

YouTube

https://youtu.be/ibU5KVFCg4Y

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

Esper was fired because he wants to continue the forever war, do yourself a favor and don't get caught up in American left wing fantasies.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...08377798746114

I knew you would show up when everybody wants to look for voter fraud (in other words, voter suppression again)

As of right now, there is no claim of fraud from any of the officials in all of the states right now. In fact, GOP wants to do a Hard Count in GA (Good luck on that one) because they still try to figure out why they lose there.

coded321 · 2020-11-10, 22:58

^not to mention, Republicans are demanding georgia's REPUBLICAN secretary of state to resign for supposed failures during the election i.e not stopping democrat voters from winning georgia for biden.

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Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm treating this as a sign that military intervention might be a possible reality. As someone said, there's probably a reason why he fired the Defense secretary and has started to bunker up around the White house. Though I'm not sure who the branches will be loyal too. // __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Sheba RUN, YOU FOOLS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost Age: 44	USPS "whistleblower" recanted his allegations of voter frauds after being questioned: https://twitter.com/OversightDems/st...89047933816836 __________________

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Thing is. If he's not declared the winner, his term is up on January 20th. Even if no one is declared the winner and he does not concede. He is still out of office on that day if he had not officially won a second term. __________________

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Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	How would it succeed? They would have to present a case to the court and so far they have literally no evidence of widespread fraud. The total might shift a little after the recount but nowhere near enough to influence the result.

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coded321 He Who Games Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: the virtual world	^not to mention, Republicans are demanding georgia's REPUBLICAN secretary of state to resign for supposed failures during the election i.e not stopping democrat voters from winning georgia for biden.