China : Current Events

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by mangamuscle

Why is China's military so shockingly corrupt? Will Xi jinping be able to control the army?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5hENyRScto

If what this video says is true, then china's army might be a mirror image of the russian army, a big bully that can push around small and weak adversaries, but hasn't won a war since WWII and can be stopped in its track by an smaller but more capable army *coff* Taiwain *coff*

Not only that, xi jingping seems not entirely in control of the military, which might do a coup'de etat if he makes a false move (like embarrassing china the same way putin has embarrased russia in the world arena).

Was there ever any doubt about whether China cannot actually take Taiwan besides levelling everything with missiles?

Anyway even if the army is corrupt, the navy is practically newly built in the past 20 or so years and that's the only force that actually matters in any forseeable conflict. If the army comes into play, things have gone way south. And while the Chinese cannot actually take Taiwan now it can still do well enough to secure its own waters. BTW, underestimating a nuclear power and taking steps to incite conflict with it out of a sense of superiority is a needlessly dangerous game that benefits nobody. Also it's 2022......China isn't hot shit but it's not crappy either. Russia's failings in the Ukraine stem primarily from political issues rather than military (having no clear strategy, stupidly waging a war on the assumption the opposition will not resist, giving commanders absolutely no time to prepare, as well as the larger political failing of playing right into NATO's hands by invading the Ukraine....for what, just build up your nuclear capability and MAD will ensure your security for you)

Ironically, Taiwan is a self solving issue. There's no way it will ever be de-facto independent from the mainland given the amount of socio-economic links between the two polities and the populace actually like the current status quo. Just don't antagonize them and Taiwan will remain part of Greater China. Hell, when the CCP's time has passed and whatever new government is in place in mainland China, Taiwan will most likely still remain intertwined with it to a greater extent than with anywhere else.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Anyway even if the army is corrupt, the navy is practically newly built in the past 20 or so years and that's the only force that actually matters in any foreseeable conflict.

... reads as zero war experience.

Russia's failings in the Ukraine stem primarily from political issues rather than military (having no clear strategy, stupidly waging a war on the assumption the opposition will not resist, giving commanders absolutely no time to prepare, ...

You are ignoring the elephant in the room called corruption.

Ironically, Taiwan is a self solving issue. There's no way it will ever be de-facto independent from the mainland given the amount of socio-economic links between the two polities and the populace actually like the current status quo.

Same thing could be said about Russia & Ukraine before the war with one difference, China has been bullying Taiwan for far longer than Russia bullied Ukraine. Taiwanese atm are probably taking notes from Ukraine.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by mangamuscle

... reads as zero war experience.

So is everyone else in Asia....thankfully. That's not actually a bad thing.

Against the US, China will be defending its own backyard waters. That's easier than attacking into blue water. Now they're still unlikely to be able to take Taiwan but America won't have a field day either

As for the army, at the very least it's reforms addressed much of the issues Russia faces

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarCollege/...cusing_on_the/

You are ignoring the elephant in the room called corruption.

That's a political issue, not strictly military. Corruption is not the job of generals to solve

Same thing could be said about Russia & Ukraine before the war with one difference, China has been bullying Taiwan for far longer than Russia bullied Ukraine. Taiwanese atm are probably taking notes from Ukraine.

Except well....2014 happened which turned friendly Ukrainians against Russia. Since that was you know....a direct attack. China hasn't done such yet. If they aren't dumb enough to do so, the Taiwan issue will eventually solve itself some day.


Anyway the context is also different. With Ukraine, the issue is physical security but Taiwan is primarily about splitting Greater China (that's why KMT claiming the mainland is acceptable, as is de facto independence under the "ROC" title, ie the "True" China but splitting off is not). The former means room for negotiation is far more narrow. Ever since the Third Taiwan Crisis, PRC leaders have in general tended to kick the can down the road until peaceful reunification happens. The real question is if someone on either side will try to provoke something in Taiwan. Otherwise the current situation is actually more or less stable with most people generally prefering the status quo.

[Ithekro]

Isn't the DDP more for scrubbing the whole Greater China concept and being Taiwan as Taiwan. No longer China.

[scififan]

The hottest topic of China right now is Grand Translation Movement.

https://twitter.com/tgtm_official?lang=en

From what I understand from the posts, the movement is due to the Ukraine war. The ruling communist party would not call it as invasion. They even have their media suggested that U.S. is to blame for "Russian intervention" in Ukraine. Not all Chinese agree with the communist government's agenda, but their posts for supporting Ukraine are removed. Only sentiment of supporting Russia remains in the government controlled media and social media. All keywords and issues not supported by the government agenda are banned as soon as possible, and the posters living in China usually get into troubles. In short, the government is in control of public opinion.

The situation somehow looks like Tanya the Evil. In the story, Tanya says she hates communists because communists oppress people in the name nationalism.

Some Chinese disagree with the communist government started translate the posts to English. The communist government is not happy. They criticizes that the translation would lead to racial bias and discrimination against Chinese. The claim has partial truth. The Chinese exchange students stuck in Ukraine said the translation made Ukraine people upset. They have to pretend they are Japanese, so Ukraine locals would not beat them up. The translators argued that they merely translate the social media and media content faithfully.

[mangamuscle]

The Chinese Had One Note on Spider-Man

Sony Pictures drew the line at editing out the Statue of Liberty (yes, really), as Hollywood studios reconsider acquiescing to Chinese censorship of American movies.

https://puck.news/the-chinese-had-on...on-spider-man/

The CCP is getting more unhinged as time goes on.

[mangamuscle]

In China, the clothes of female characters in "Kimetsu no Yaiba Yukaku Hen" have been changed from kimonos to sweaters

http://yurukuyaru.com/archives/88154632.html

Seems the CCP is afraid boobies will corrupt their youth.

[Ithekro]

That, or someone over there has a sweater fetish.

[Infinite Zenith]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

That, or someone over there has a sweater fetish.

This is more likely. The former, just random speculation.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Infinite Zenith

This is more likely. The former, just random speculation.

Considering they also forced the censure of certain characters' outfits in other games like Genshin Impact, it's probably not a "sweater fetish".

[ramlaen]

Many anime have breast size and cleavage reduced for the Chinese audience.

[Infinite Zenith]

Name some. Curious to see for myself how dramatic the changes are.

[Key Board]

it is definitely happening in some mobile games . Azur Lane is probably the most prominent example, and you can just google images those or ask the Azur Lane reddit.

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[mangamuscle]

China Takes Mata Hari and Boudica Down a Notch for "Fate/Grand Order"

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...ategrand-order

Here is a "vintage" example of said boobies censorship.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Infinite Zenith

Name some. Curious to see for myself how dramatic the changes are.

Amber, Mona, Jean, Rosaria.

[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by Infinite Zenith

Name some. Curious to see for myself how dramatic the changes are.

Maid Dragon S was another recent example.

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by GDB

Amber, Mona, Jean, Rosaria.

At least they still have names left, unlike certain others...

[AnimeFan188]

There's a run on Chinese banks and it's being ignored by the world

"In recent years it has become clear the Chinese people are losing faith in their financial institutions. There’s been anger over harsh COVID lockdowns in Shanghai recently, while the collapse of China Evergrande saw rare public demonstrations as residents faced the prospect of losing their life savings used as deposits for housing."

See:

https://www.asiamarkets.com/chinese-banks-run/

[Yu Ominae]

If anyone is tuning in to what's happening in Beijing, it's likely that Xi can get another term. Possibly forever until he croaks.

[monir]

China's chip industry looks to be in trouble:

https://twitter.com/jordanschnyc/sta...wE1QarwHhh6EUQ