2011-01-12, 09:05 | Link #1 | |
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[Manga] Naruto Chapter 523 Discussion
Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter as well as discussion of said chapter once it has been released.
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2011-01-12, 13:03 | Link #3 |
Ino-Shika-Cho
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More info since we have a script:
Names of the Swordsmen and their swords. Their names have a fruit theme. Ringo Ameyuri (Little Guy) - The Thunder Sword Kiba. The sharpest sword. Kuriarare Kushimaru (Tall Mask Guy) - The Long Sword Nuibari. It pierces through anything and sews it shut. Hoozuki Mangetsu (Suigetsu's bro) - No sword. But master of all swords. Munashi Jinpachi (Eyepatch Guy) - The Explosive Sword Shibuki. Charged with explosives. Suikazan Fubuki (Fat Guy) - Former owner of Samehada Akebino Jinin (Deidara Hair Guy) - The Dull Sword Kabutowari. Can break through any guard. Shikaku and Inoichi don't appear. Instead it is a backup squad from the Nara clan. Kakashi uses them and a Yamanaka to get through the mist and strike the hidden Zabuza. Kakashi's plan is to have the Nara shadow bind Zabuza and the Swordsmen since they can't kill or talk-no-jutsu them. But as you can see by the ending, it doesn't work out that well thanks to Haku. Haku takes the raikiri blow for Zabuza and grabs Kakashi's arms. Then Zabuza goes for the kill. There is still a chance the Nara were able to get the shadow bind on Zabuza, Choujuro is the only Swordmen left in the current generation. Zabuza's sword can repair itself through the iron in blood. More killing = repaired sword. Mangetsu is the second coming of Zabuza and a prodigy. Not Suigetsu as previously thought.
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2011-01-12, 13:55 | Link #4 | |
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The spoiler just reinforces the thought that Suigetsu will be matched against Choujiro. It's pretty much a given if he really is the last living Mist swordsmen. Suigetsu will want Hiramekarei.
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2011-01-12, 14:11 | Link #5 | |
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It also appears he doesn't consider Chojuro to be a worthy Mist Swordsmen since he is a weak kid and not very brutal. Suigetsu's idea of the Swordsmen is from the old bloody Mist and different than what the Mizukage wants. So his group would be outlaws from Kiri. So Suigetsu will have to kill Chojuro to get his sword and remove him from the Swordsmen. In that case, Sui would lose and die since Chojuro is a good guy. One thing we now know. There won't be a Old 7 Swordsmen vs. New 7 Swordsmen fight. There is only one left. Kakashi's group are on their own.
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2011-01-12, 14:49 | Link #6 | |
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I'm not sure how far this subplot of Suigetsu gathering all the swords and reforming the 7 is actually going to be carried but there's little chance of him actually succeeding at it. So yeah, if there's fight between him and Choujuro, Suigetsu would probably lose and likely die soon after that. But overall, Suigetsu's a much more interesting character. So if he ended up winning I'd enjoy that more.
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2011-01-12, 16:15 | Link #7 |
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To be honest, it will probably be forgotten after this fight. It's not exactly a huge priority for Kishi. We are seeing Suigetsu after over a year away from the manga because he is is able to provide background on the Swordsmen and their swords. So he can play a role now. But after they are defeated, Kishi will move on to other zombies and forget about Sui. Like he already did for a long time. I think Suigetsu will be allowed to live, but his goal will be left open ended since he can never achieve it. As minor as Choujuro is, he will not die. Nor will the Mist go back to its old ways.
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2011-01-12, 16:32 | Link #8 |
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I don't see how anyone can think Suigetsu will fight Choujuro of all people when its confirmed his own brother is on the battlefield and that he summoned a sword.
Suigetsu is not going to go rogue with his mini organization, he is going to fight alongside the alliance in this battle. This is going to be a long battle is Kishi adds a sword every chapter. (Zabuza's last chapter, Mangetsu's this chapter) At least, it means Naruto's training is going to end soon since Bee currently hold a sword and will have to get involved. Guess Kishi couldn't kill Haku again without showing him the improved Naruto. |
2011-01-12, 18:06 | Link #9 | |
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2011-01-12, 20:31 | Link #10 | |
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-That aside, this is sounding like a big blast of nostalgia. Here's hoping it turns out good. EDIT -Chapter's out. It was alright I guess considering it is nothing more than an exhibition of what the Swordsmen and their swords can do. One is an explosive sword, another crushes all defences, another cuts like lightning. Conveniently, Zabuza's sword repairs itself by absorbing blood from enemies so after moving down a few fodder, it nearly repairs itself. Also, Haku takes a Raikiri again, only this time there is almost no drama in it. Too bad.
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2011-01-13, 01:58 | Link #12 | |
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Suigetsu might get his dreams come true fast, isn't it a tad bit convenient that half of the swords are already in one place for him to take?
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2011-01-13, 05:17 | Link #13 |
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Once Naruto will finish his training he'll probably won't even need any tools.
He can probably make a kunai, shuriken and even a sword with just his own (mastered) chakra. Hopefully he learns also to deflect ninjutsu and even physical things like needles like he did against Haku or.. Sasuke's Katon at the VotE. Still... Naruto bringing down the seven mist swordsmen... i wonder if that is similiar like bringing down the 7 Pain. Or if Pain is superior to the Mists 7.
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2011-01-13, 05:46 | Link #16 |
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Lol decent chapter. The only bad things I have to say are how the art went a bit sloppy on one page and how he felt the need to kill the dark mood by using chibi's to explain Kakashi's strategy.
And that stitching sword was little bit unnerving...
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2011-01-13, 06:42 | Link #17 |
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I was thinking how it might have made Sakura more useful if she were given Maki the Sand kunoichi's job in wrapping Zabuza. But maybe there is some kind of Suna skill to wrapping someone in cloth. I do like he is showing there are some decent name ninja in the Alliance ranks. Even if 99% of them are there to get chopped up like in this chapter. Expect more Konoha clans and occasional fodder to shine.
I guess he needs to pay his assistants more. I'll admit Naruto's art has been hit or miss for a while now. I'm actually not a big fan of the Swordsmen designs. They lack something. The only decent one is the scary tall guy.
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2011-01-13, 06:58 | Link #18 |
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omg how retarded does kishi think we are. "An unforgivable evil intent , zabuza ignores haku and moves to cut down kakashi". WTF. Didnt he just show a page with 7 people getting blown to kingdom come, and regenerate. Who gives a shit if he ignores haku and cuts him, he can fucking regerenate it all back. If i was in zabuza's position and haku was my MOTHER id still have no problem. Geez, am i the only one ticked off at this....retardedness?
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2011-01-13, 07:19 | Link #19 |
Me, An Intellectual
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^ Huh, I didn't even notice. That does seem especially stupid since we all know Zabuza isn't even in control anymore. Bad translation maybe? Or maybe the first sentence was actually refferring to Kabuto.
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2011-01-13, 07:26 | Link #20 | |
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I don't know... maybe it's an ANBU thing but... i like Kashimaru... besides... he awfully reminds me of Hashimaru (real movie: Shinobi).. with his abilities... and with an appearance like Orochimaru. Spoiler:
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