|
View Poll Results: Fate/Zero - Episode 22 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 31 | 38.27% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 24 | 29.63% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 13.58% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 12 | 14.81% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.23% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 2.47% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll |
|
Thread Tools |
2012-06-03, 08:28 | Link #41 | |||
Spoilaphobic
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA
Age: 37
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
|
|||
2012-06-03, 10:06 | Link #42 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
|
Waver and his "grandpa".
They finally figured out he's not their real grandchild. He was kinda surprised they accepted him despite that. It's nice how Rider thinks of Waver as his friend too. All the servants and masters are slowly gathering to get the grail.
__________________
|
2012-06-03, 10:14 | Link #43 | |
Mad Scientist #0000
|
Quote:
Besides, using up all 3 Command Spells doesn't mean one stops being a Master. They just cannot control their Servant anymore. |
|
2012-06-03, 14:08 | Link #46 | ||
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
|
Quote:
Quote:
But, of course, it also means he wants to be the one to kill him, so I think the best we can hope for, as far as a conclusion without despair goes, is that Waver is spared, which should at least provide Rider some solace in defeat. We'll see, I guess. |
||
2012-06-03, 19:10 | Link #47 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
|
Oh god, poor Iri And I thought I didn't like it back when he stabbed her even though she had Avalon. But this was just horrible and brutal. That neck snapping sound. Kirei, fuck you.
You know, after the last episode, I thought to myself "Ok, so we had Shirley die. Next episode, it was Natalia. Then Maiya after that, and Aoi in the one after that. So next episode, I guess it's Iri's turn, huh?" It was meant to be humorous, but, well here we are. One female character after another, every episode. I don't understand why he killed her though, or even if she's sort of metaphysically alive (given that scene at the end where she's up and about in some ethereal plane). I mean, didn't he need her alive to be the Grail vessel? I loved that ending scene by the way. It was wonderfully eerie and desolate and deathly cold. Now cometh the Grail, eh? |
2012-06-03, 19:31 | Link #50 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
|
Quote:
And Kirei also killed her because, as he told Gilgamesh afterwards, there was no reason to keep her alive any longer. He had gotten the information he wanted out of her, and even if he didn't killed her, her husband himself would have done the deed when the time came. If you look at it like that, Kirei killing her can even be viewed as a form of mercy. As in, being killed by your bitter enemy would be preferable to being sacrificed by your own husband. |
|
2012-06-03, 19:36 | Link #51 |
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2012
|
haHA! The most famous team of horse and rider in history reunited on the battlefield! I may have actually squeaked a bit when Bucephalus showed up. I also love that Bucephalus is not a Noble Phantasm but a Heroic Spirit himself. I've been loving Waver's coming of age tale, and three equals riding onto the field (with an army of comrades, no less, to back them up) is a perfect climax. Rider's been an excellent mentor, and so long as Waver survives I'm looking forward to what's probably his last stand... because you can't kill ideals. In a mushy sense, Rider doesn't need the grail, his attitude is one of embracing life - and he's already passed it on to Waver. He's succeeded at being a Heroic Spirit - now all that's left is a heroic last stand. (That said, Rider is a big rectification of the historical Alexander in a lot of ways. Even so, I love the hell out of the character, but I miss the heterochromia.)
Endless Twilight, I wasn't aware that there was extra footage included in the disc releases of FZ, how much more content is there? Are all the episodes expanded, or is it just bits and pieces here and there? (I got your name wrong for a second, but fixed it in an edit. I was talking with a friend as I was typing and he used a word similar to "endless" and it snuck in.) |
2012-06-03, 19:41 | Link #52 | |
Spoilaphobic
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA
Age: 37
|
Quote:
You know... I have so much rage towards Kirei right now...
__________________
|
|
2012-06-03, 19:55 | Link #53 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
|
Quote:
And the extra content is uneven. Some episodes received no new footage at all, whereas others, like episodes 11 and 12, received about 5 new minutes each. The new scenes are particularly worthwhile if you're a Gilgamesh fan, since many of the scenes that were left out from the broadcast version were his. Some priorities those mongrels at ufotable had, but oh well. Yes, I'm sure that's how Iri sees it as well. But you see, the fact that Kiritsugu has a wife he could be happy with but still chooses to discard her love for the sake of pursuing a childish ideal is precisely why Kirei is now hellbent on crushing Kiritsugu (before he just wanted to question him). |
|
2012-06-03, 20:34 | Link #54 |
Loves the Experience
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Earth...hopefully
|
Loved this episode, mostly because it focused on Waver and the animation was actually good for a change. I know a lot of people say this by now, but Waver (and Kariya) seems to be the only character who is actually invested in this war. Kirei, I'm sorry, but he is too subdued in his emotions that his "killing" of Irisviel almost felt like that disabled guy from Battleship (okay, it's not THAT bad).
__________________
|
2012-06-03, 21:05 | Link #56 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
|
Quote:
Waver only got into the war to get some respect and acknowledgment, but thanks to Rider and "grandpa" he's finally beginning to realize how, even though those things may seem like everything in the world to him now, they're still not worth risking one's life for in the end. |
|
2012-06-03, 21:28 | Link #57 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
|
Quote:
Still, I think even being killed by her husband would've been better than being strangled in a dark sewer dungeon by an evil bastard, alone. Poor Iri |
|
2012-06-03, 22:04 | Link #59 | |
Loves the Experience
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Earth...hopefully
|
Quote:
Yeah, Waver had weak motivations, but he strongly believed in them, which helped him become animated in the first half. And he's still my favorite to this day.
__________________
|
|
2012-06-03, 23:10 | Link #60 | |
Not Enough Sleep
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: R'lyeh
Age: 48
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
|
|