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james0246 · 2012-05-20, 01:01

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The Traitor - 裏切り者 ~ Uragirimono

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solidvanz · 2012-05-20, 03:03

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nhZbBmcFK8

LightningZERO · 2012-05-20, 03:24

Everything goes on as predicted...lolz

bio9205 · 2012-05-20, 04:00

Wait, so is it Wrozzo or Gomel? I'm confused.

j0x · 2012-05-20, 04:00

kinda weak episode since Kio is so confuse and did not decide to help Shenlua to survive, Shenlua is a human and not a vagan like i thought at first but she is definitely a spy for the vagan, she takes money from vagans to make her sick sister afford medication

next episode looks like Kio will be on rage mode due to Shenlua's death

solidvanz · 2012-05-20, 04:06

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Originally Posted by bio9205

Wait, so is it Wrozzo or Gomel? I'm confused.

Wrozzo.

casval cehack · 2012-05-20, 04:07

Yeah, Codename Maria's reason is her sister's medical condition as predicted. A bag of coins is the price of the lives of Rostroulan garrison once those plasma particle bombs goesoff. Wong should be promoted for the leak's discovery.

A lot of first for Kio this episode; disobeying orders just like his father and cried after seeing the war in the different perspective. Nice touch that Romary seems to be ok for Kio to be posted in the Diva while Wootbit's mom is not.

Great to see a ground-type hovering Adele and the Gomel lookalike Wrozzo. I think the Defurse got upgraded too. If the Age-3 has been converted to a single seater, can we assume the G-Ceptor's are now UAV?

ReddyRedWolf · 2012-05-20, 04:41

Well Shanalua felt she was caught between a rock and a hard place. Her weakness led her to betray the Federation. Being a spy doesn't mean the Vegans would accept her. Her sister is still sick. Finally she knows she is going to get the death penalty for spying.

Despite the prior portrayal of Flit purging the Federation of collaborators he tells Kio to let her go defend the base. Very practical as always. No use crying over spilled milk.

Kio like his father lets his personal feeling get in the way when it comes to friends.

Interesting Kio may show surprise but he hasn't really felt fear before. He's good... Too good it may bite him in the future. It was not until Shanalua that he was taught survival instinct. Even then it is intellectual.

casval cehack · 2012-05-20, 05:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Well Shanalua felt she was caught between a rock and a hard place. Her weakness led her to betray the Federation. Being a spy doesn't mean the Vegans would accept her. Her sister is still sick. Finally she knows she is going to get the death penalty for spying.

Despite the prior portrayal of Flit purging the Federation of collaborators he tells Kio to let her go defend the base. Very practical as always. No use crying over spilled milk.

Kio like his father lets his personal feeling get in the way when it comes to friends.

Interesting Kio may show surprise but he hasn't really felt fear before. He's good... Too good it may bite him in the future. It was not until Shanalua that he was taught survival instinct. Even then it is intellectual.

Her sickly sister will probably soon know that she's dead. It's only a Vegan win. Her sister has a greater chance of meeting her end sooner in one of those Zeheart's city bombardment orders, especially if the Rostroulan central command's soon destruction will affect the EFF coordinated earth defense dearly.

Ironic that her spy master of sorts is the one that she dueled with.

Revolutionist · 2012-05-20, 06:11

This episode was kinda bad. I loved how Zeheart's entire strategy relied on that guy surviving to activate the bomb. What if he got vaporized by the beam saber instead? Oh well.

Zantetsuken · 2012-05-20, 07:00

Worst episode since generation 1 kicked into full gear. Comparable to the lame beginning

Scarletknive · 2012-05-20, 07:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidvanz

Wrozzo.

For some reason, I have a feeling of

Spoiler for 32:

LightningZERO · 2012-05-20, 09:16

I thought this was a pretty strong episode. It's nice to see Kio facing the reality of war and realising that not everything is black and white, and that it is not a game. The reveal that Shanalua is the spy would be more effective if we don't have THAT much of information and outright hints.

ReddyRedWolf · 2012-05-20, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightningZERO

I thought this was a pretty strong episode. It's nice to see Kio facing the reality of war and realising that not everything is black and white, and that it is not a game. The reveal that Shanalua is the spy would be more effective if we don't have THAT much of information and outright hints.

More like realizing the reality of adults. Kio is the forgiving type. Choices made has its consequences.

Shanalua herself is not thinking straight. Afraid she'll get the death penalty before her sister gets well.

She could have easily been used to feed false information to the enemy.

Revolutionist · 2012-05-20, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

More like realizing the reality of adults. Kio is the forgiving type. Choices made has its consequences.

Shanalua herself is not thinking straight. Afraid she'll get the death penalty before her sister gets well.

She could have easily been used to feed false information to the enemy.

LOL. yea they could also have forgiven her and allowed her stay on the ship as a pilot; after all, treason is not a very big deal, specially since there is no precedent of the Federation cracking down on traitors...

SoldierOfDarkness · 2012-05-20, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

More like realizing the reality of adults. Kio is the forgiving type. Choices made has its consequences.

Shanalua herself is not thinking straight. Afraid she'll get the death penalty before her sister gets well.

She could have easily been used to feed false information to the enemy.

Well it was an emotional decision on her part so obviously she wouldn't be thinking straight but yes she's correct in that she'll get the death penalty as "traitors" is one of the worst crimes there are.

On that matter I found it silly they bribed her like that. The Vagans are conducting a cleansing operation so sure she took their money but that doesn't mean her sister would be safe from the war. I would've found it to make more sense if they were holding her sister hostage.

And did anyone found it silly they bribed her with "gold coins?"

I was expecting a brief case or something.

Quote:

Despite the prior portrayal of Flit purging the Federation of collaborators he tells Kio to let her go defend the base. Very practical as always. No use crying over spilled milk.

Kio like his father lets his personal feeling get in the way when it comes to friends.

With age comes wisdom

Flit actually took the time to sit down with the captain to give her a pep talk and to reassure her that she'll make a great captain.

But in regards to Kio he's not a soldier so obviously emotions will run him around a bit. Technically speaking defending HQ should take priority over the spy since the damage was already done. This will strengthen his resolve I think.

faiz blaster · 2012-05-20, 13:26

Okay.... This was disappointing...

Scorpiopt · 2012-05-20, 15:21

Predictable to say the least :/ , another UC homage to the invasion of jaburo
Weak episode probably the worst so far in the age series

Awrya · 2012-05-20, 15:23

Seriously? You take a bribe from the enemy, which was a bag full of coins? Which century are we in

Flit pep talk encourages the captain, seems like she'll be able to make decisions next episode.
A strategy which depends on luck whether the Wrozzo ended up exploding or not during battle? If it does not, all according to plan. If it does, Zeheart&co die in the middle of the explosion

monster · 2012-05-20, 15:46

All the pointed out flaws aside, I still enjoyed this episode. Shanalua's is probably my favorite death scene in AGE so far. Also, interesting note about Arissa not wanting her son to serve on the Diva. And maybe it's just me, but I feel like I was watching one of those CGI documentary on dinosaurs when the mobile suits were moving through the jungle, especially when that one Vagan mobile suit tried to ambush Kio and when Shanalua was being chased over Kio's head.

It must be the perspective they're using, really makes the mobile suits look as giants when looked from the ground and with nature all around them. Somehow, I didn't feel this way when I watched 08th MS Team.

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2012-05-20, 03:03	Link #2
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2012-05-20, 03:24	Link #3
LightningZERO You are Dominated! Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Earth Age: 35	Everything goes on as predicted...lolz __________________ その再生を破壊する Destroy This Rebirth

2012-05-20, 04:07	Link #7
casval cehack Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011	Yeah, Codename Maria's reason is her sister's medical condition as predicted. A bag of coins is the price of the lives of Rostroulan garrison once those plasma particle bombs goesoff. Wong should be promoted for the leak's discovery. A lot of first for Kio this episode; disobeying orders just like his father and cried after seeing the war in the different perspective. Nice touch that Romary seems to be ok for Kio to be posted in the Diva while Wootbit's mom is not. Great to see a ground-type hovering Adele and the Gomel lookalike Wrozzo. I think the Defurse got upgraded too. If the Age-3 has been converted to a single seater, can we assume the G-Ceptor's are now UAV? __________________

2012-05-20, 06:11	Link #10
Revolutionist Puppet Master Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Behind You	This episode was kinda bad. I loved how Zeheart's entire strategy relied on that guy surviving to activate the bomb. What if he got vaporized by the beam saber instead? Oh well. __________________ I cannot give you back your homes, or restore your dead to life, but perhaps I can give you justice, in the name of our King. ~ Ned Stark

2012-05-20, 04:00	Link #4
bio9205 Reborn Join Date: Sep 2009 Age: 29	Wait, so is it Wrozzo or Gomel? I'm confused.

2012-05-20, 04:00	Link #5
j0x Giga Drill Breaker Join Date: Jan 2009	kinda weak episode since Kio is so confuse and did not decide to help Shenlua to survive, Shenlua is a human and not a vagan like i thought at first but she is definitely a spy for the vagan, she takes money from vagans to make her sick sister afford medication next episode looks like Kio will be on rage mode due to Shenlua's death

2012-05-20, 04:41	Link #8
ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	Well Shanalua felt she was caught between a rock and a hard place. Her weakness led her to betray the Federation. Being a spy doesn't mean the Vegans would accept her. Her sister is still sick. Finally she knows she is going to get the death penalty for spying. Despite the prior portrayal of Flit purging the Federation of collaborators he tells Kio to let her go defend the base. Very practical as always. No use crying over spilled milk. Kio like his father lets his personal feeling get in the way when it comes to friends. Interesting Kio may show surprise but he hasn't really felt fear before. He's good... Too good it may bite him in the future. It was not until Shanalua that he was taught survival instinct. Even then it is intellectual.

2012-05-20, 07:00	Link #11
Zantetsuken Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 33	Worst episode since generation 1 kicked into full gear. Comparable to the lame beginning __________________

2012-05-20, 09:16	Link #13
LightningZERO You are Dominated! Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Earth Age: 35	I thought this was a pretty strong episode. It's nice to see Kio facing the reality of war and realising that not everything is black and white, and that it is not a game. The reveal that Shanalua is the spy would be more effective if we don't have THAT much of information and outright hints. __________________ その再生を破壊する Destroy This Rebirth

2012-05-20, 13:26	Link #17
faiz blaster Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Okay.... This was disappointing...

2012-05-20, 15:21	Link #18
Scorpiopt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010	Predictable to say the least :/ , another UC homage to the invasion of jaburo Weak episode probably the worst so far in the age series Last edited by Scorpiopt; 2012-05-20 at 16:24.

2012-05-20, 15:23	Link #19
Awrya U mad? Join Date: Apr 2012	Seriously? You take a bribe from the enemy, which was a bag full of coins? Which century are we in Flit pep talk encourages the captain, seems like she'll be able to make decisions next episode. A strategy which depends on luck whether the Wrozzo ended up exploding or not during battle? If it does not, all according to plan. If it does, Zeheart&co die in the middle of the explosion __________________

2012-05-20, 15:46	Link #20
monster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	All the pointed out flaws aside, I still enjoyed this episode. Shanalua's is probably my favorite death scene in AGE so far. Also, interesting note about Arissa not wanting her son to serve on the Diva. And maybe it's just me, but I feel like I was watching one of those CGI documentary on dinosaurs when the mobile suits were moving through the jungle, especially when that one Vagan mobile suit tried to ambush Kio and when Shanalua was being chased over Kio's head. It must be the perspective they're using, really makes the mobile suits look as giants when looked from the ground and with nature all around them. Somehow, I didn't feel this way when I watched 08th MS Team.