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Akka · 2009-08-16, 09:38

Dunno, but I found that anime style tends to not goes well in live action. Maybe because the graphic style is much of the appeal, maybe because of the slight over-exagerration that is always present, mainly because of the way the action is done.

Also, no offense, but I usually found Japanese actors to be, well... not that good. Just the opposite of their voice actors, funilly, which are usually better than others.
Perhaps just my prejudice, though, but even in Kurosawa movies, I found the acting quality quite lacking - most of the time because of overacting and lack of natural.

Perhaps with good actors and a decent budgets, it could be done, but I just don't feel that anime can be translated into live action really well. Something just not fit in (now, perhaps if I saw an actual good example, I could change my mind about it).

Though I would gladly try this Melancholy of Hahiru Suzumiya if it did cast Aya Hirano...

Ice Block · 2009-08-16, 09:42

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Many western comic book characters have been excellently converted into live-action, so I don't see why anime/manga would necessarily be fail.

Reputation. When you can only pick at most 4 (arbitrary number, but surely there must be more than one!

) decent anime-to-live-action adaptations in the last two decades... this speaks for itself mostly.

Triple_R · 2009-08-16, 10:11

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Originally Posted by Ice Block

Reputation. When you can only pick at most 4 (arbitrary number, but surely there must be more than one!

) decent anime-to-live-action adaptations in the last two decades... this speaks for itself mostly.

Have there been many animes that have been given the live-action treatment?

I'm aware of...

Dragon Ball (western live-action)
Speed Racer (western live-action)
Death Note
Higurashi (I think)
Sailor Moon

...That's all I can think of off the top of my head (I don't count porns). I'll admit that it's not the best of records.

Still, it's a short record... unless there's been a lot more anime/manga translated into live action over in Japan that I'm not aware of.

I do agree that video game-to-live action is almost always fail. It amazes me how anybody can get excited over a video game-to-live action movie at this point.

Ice Block · 2009-08-16, 10:59

Sample list: http://www.listal.com/list/anime-live-action-movies

Aside from the Western films, I've only seen GTO (and Death Note, but only parts). I don't know how accurate the ratings over there are, but at least from my side of the internet, only Death Note, GTO (some claim this to be better than the original anime!) and H&C -- and to a lesser extent DMC -- have been received pretty well (again, not counting Western films). Again, most live-action adaptations are expected to fail, so people go "no, please, no" to not destroy their image of the characters.

On game adaptations... Western game-to-live-action conversions of big names like the announced Warcraft and Halo movies attract large audiences due to their respective universe's rich lore (not to mention sheer popularity). Other games, however...

Triple_R · 2009-08-16, 11:10

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Originally Posted by Ice Block

Sample list: http://www.listal.com/list/anime-live-action-movies

Wow... there's a lot more than I thought. Mind you, for a lot of these, I didn't know the anime/manga it was borrowing from, let alone the adaptation.

I can't believe I forgot Blood: The Last Vampire, though. I wasn't a big Blood+ fan, but I read a Roger Ebert review of the movie, and he seemed to like it well enough, for whatever that's worth.

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Aside from the Western films, I've only seen GTO (and Death Note, but only parts). I don't know how accurate the ratings over there are, but at least from my side of the internet, only Death Note, GTO (some claim this to be better than the original anime!) and H&C -- and to a lesser extent DMC -- have been received pretty well (again, not counting Western films). Again, most live-action adaptations are expected to fail, so people go "no, please, no" to not destroy their image of the characters.

I understand. That's my take on video game-to-live action movies, in general.

Dragon Ball and Street Racer were not received well, over-all, so I can see that having a negative impact on western anime fans.

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On game adaptations... Western game-to-live-action conversions of big names like the announced Warcraft and Halo movies attract large audiences due to their respective universe's rich lore (not to mention sheer popularity). Other games, however...

True.

Apache Thunder · 2009-08-16, 15:02

2011 will see at least two major Animes get the hollywood live-action treatment: (aka American remake). Ghost in the Shell and Death Note. Yes Hollywood is going to do their own remake of Death Note despite there already being THREE Japanese live action versions.

Not to mention they will have a hard time getting Ghost in the Shell right. God I hope at least one of them isn't a complete train wreck...

Kogetsu Shirogane · 2009-08-16, 15:03

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Originally Posted by Akka

Though I would gladly try this Melancholy of Hahiru Suzumiya if it did cast Aya Hirano...

... Do you realize what you just said?

Roger Rambo · 2009-08-16, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Apache Thunder

2011 will see at least two majore Animes get the hollywood live-action treatment: (aka American remake). Ghost in the Shell and Death Note. Yes Hollywood is going to do their own remake of Death Note despite there already being THREE japanese live action versions.

Not to mention they will have a hard time getting Ghost in the Shell right. God I hope at least one of them isn't a complete train wreck...

You notice all this stuff got started right after Michael Bay's Transformers movie was a success?

It's like everyone immediately jumped up after that started raking in at the box office and pounced on the closest cartoon IP they could find.

Kogetsu Shirogane · 2009-08-16, 15:08

That would be Hollywood's "me too" aspect in effect. If someone does something that's a success, everyone jumps on the bandwagon. Happened with Spider-Man and comic book movies, too.

If any video game movie ends up a huge success, expect every franchise in history to get one.

Apache Thunder · 2009-08-16, 15:12

I did like the Transformers movies. But though I didn't like the sequel quite as much now that I re-watched the first one. (and yes they will be making a third!). I'm not that picky in terms of plot content, but the Transformers lacked a noticeable amount of it and for me, thats saying something...

Kogetsu Shirogane · 2009-08-16, 15:17

But... the second had Devastator! ... and Spongebob as a racist caricature!

And... this isn't the place to be making this sort of discussion, you know...

SgtHydra · 2009-08-16, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Apache Thunder

2011 will see at least two majore Animes get the hollywood live-action treatment: (aka American remake). Ghost in the Shell and Death Note. Yes Hollywood is going to do their own remake of Death Note despite there already being THREE japanese live action versions.

Not to mention they will have a hard time getting Ghost in the Shell right. God I hope at least one of them isn't a complete train wreck...

An... American... Death Note movie...

Oh Great Maker, I am very glad I'm not a DN fan.

I pity them greatly, especially considering what Dragonball just went through.

And in some forced attempt to remain on topic, I'd say that the Haruhi franchise should get a live action movie in Japan, but definately NOT a western version.

Hollywood needs to get off the remake/adaptation fever and get onto more original content.

mokuseimaru · 2009-08-16, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Have there been many animes that have been given the live-action treatment?

I'm aware of...

Dragon Ball (western live-action)
Speed Racer (western live-action)
Death Note
Higurashi (I think)
Sailor Moon

...That's all I can think of off the top of my head (I don't count porns). I'll admit that it's not the best of records.

Still, it's a short record... unless there's been a lot more anime/manga translated into live action over in Japan that I'm not aware of.

I do agree that video game-to-live action is almost always fail. It amazes me how anybody can get excited over a video game-to-live action movie at this point.

I don't know if this counts, but Bleach has a "rock opera" you can find a subbed recording of on YouTube. It's actually not as bad as you would expect.

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Originally Posted by Apache Thunder

2011 will see at least two majore Animes get the hollywood live-action treatment: (aka American remake). Ghost in the Shell and Death Note. Yes Hollywood is going to do their own remake of Death Note despite there already being THREE japanese live action versions.

Not to mention they will have a hard time getting Ghost in the Shell right. God I hope at least one of them isn't a complete train wreck...

I don't know about that...Ghost in the Shell is fairly realist in its approach to story, the only unfamiliar visual elements being the "cyber-brain POV" stuff and the tachikomas. And are they basing this on the movie, the anime, or the original manga? That will certainly factor into whether or not it's doomed from the start.

Apache Thunder · 2009-08-16, 16:30

Looks like it will be based from the Manga....

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Originally Posted by Wiki

As of 2008, DreamWorks acquired the rights to produce a live-action film adaptation of the original manga with Steven Spielberg. So far, Avi Arad and Steven Paul are confirmed producers; Jamie Moss will be adapting the manga into a screenplay. The live-action film is set to be released in 2011.

Also another source says it will be in 3D as well. (not CGI 3D, the dorky glasses 3D.

)

And yes I agree this is getting a bit off topic now. :P

Akka · 2009-08-16, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Apache Thunder

2011 will see at least two majore Animes get the hollywood live-action treatment: (aka American remake). Ghost in the Shell and Death Note. Yes Hollywood is going to do their own remake of Death Note despite there already being THREE japanese live action versions.

Not to mention they will have a hard time getting Ghost in the Shell right. God I hope at least one of them isn't a complete train wreck...

Considering the record of Hollywood when it comes to remake, I DREAD these.
GITS being probably reduced to explosions and three lines of technical explanation is already a horrible thought, but Death Note likely slaughtered into some kind of action movie fills me with horror.

Of course, I may be wrong, and they may at least try to stay true to the idea, but...
Wanna bet ? :x

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Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

... Do you realize what you just said?

Hu, yes. I think. So ?

OkamiNoKaze · 2009-08-16, 18:06

I don't think it Deathnote will be an action movie. The current rumor is that Zach Effron is playing Light, He does bear a resembelence, they have comparison photos all over the place on Google.

Triple_R · 2009-08-16, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

... Do you realize what you just said?

I guess that he just really digs Aya Hirano...

Akka · 2009-08-16, 18:38

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Originally Posted by OkamiNoKaze

I don't think it Deathnote will be an action movie.

Well, I surely hope so, but Hollywood is known to make an action movie from about anything, so...

Triple_R · 2009-08-16, 18:42

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Originally Posted by OkamiNoKaze

I don't think it Deathnote will be an action movie. The current rumor is that Zach Effron is playing Light, He does bear a resembelence, they have comparison photos all over the place on Google.

You ever watch CSI?

I suspect that Hollywood will try to make Death Note into a CSI-like film. I fully expect for Light's father and his cop team to get significantly more screen time in this movie than they did in the actual anime.

I'm fairly certain that Hollywood can turn Death Note into a commercial success - its premise is like a cross between a supernatural thriller and CSI, both of which tend to do well in America.

Now, whether or not this Death Note movie will be good for fans of the actual anime... we'll have to wait and see.

Ithekro · 2009-08-16, 18:49

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Ice Block less qq; more pewpew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philippines	Sample list: http://www.listal.com/list/anime-live-action-movies Aside from the Western films, I've only seen GTO (and Death Note, but only parts). I don't know how accurate the ratings over there are, but at least from my side of the internet, only Death Note, GTO (some claim this to be better than the original anime!) and H&C -- and to a lesser extent DMC -- have been received pretty well (again, not counting Western films). Again, most live-action adaptations are expected to fail, so people go "no, please, no" to not destroy their image of the characters. On game adaptations... Western game-to-live-action conversions of big names like the announced Warcraft and Halo movies attract large audiences due to their respective universe's rich lore (not to mention sheer popularity). Other games, however... __________________

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Apache Thunder Interdimensional Spy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Levelland, Texas USA	2011 will see at least two major Animes get the hollywood live-action treatment: (aka American remake). Ghost in the Shell and Death Note. Yes Hollywood is going to do their own remake of Death Note despite there already being THREE Japanese live action versions. Not to mention they will have a hard time getting Ghost in the Shell right. God I hope at least one of them isn't a complete train wreck... __________________ I have cameras in your head! Last edited by Apache Thunder; 2009-08-16 at 17:01.

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Apache Thunder Interdimensional Spy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Levelland, Texas USA	I did like the Transformers movies. But though I didn't like the sequel quite as much now that I re-watched the first one. (and yes they will be making a third!). I'm not that picky in terms of plot content, but the Transformers lacked a noticeable amount of it and for me, thats saying something... __________________ I have cameras in your head!

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Akka Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Dunno, but I found that anime style tends to not goes well in live action. Maybe because the graphic style is much of the appeal, maybe because of the slight over-exagerration that is always present, mainly because of the way the action is done. Also, no offense, but I usually found Japanese actors to be, well... not that good. Just the opposite of their voice actors, funilly, which are usually better than others. Perhaps just my prejudice, though, but even in Kurosawa movies, I found the acting quality quite lacking - most of the time because of overacting and lack of natural. Perhaps with good actors and a decent budgets, it could be done, but I just don't feel that anime can be translated into live action really well. Something just not fit in (now, perhaps if I saw an actual good example, I could change my mind about it). Though I would gladly try this Melancholy of Hahiru Suzumiya if it did cast Aya Hirano...

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Kogetsu Shirogane Kneel Before Your King! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: My kingdom Age: 39	But... the second had Devastator! ... and Spongebob as a racist caricature! And... this isn't the place to be making this sort of discussion, you know... __________________ WARNING: Kogetsu Shirogane cannot be held accountable for any actions taken by someone else. Potential side effects of communicating with this user include headaches, mild confusion, insanity, delirium, and jumping into fires. Do not expose this user to sunlight or water or feed this user after midnight. ... so you think you're a king now...

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