(L) Katanagatari

[Echoes]

That was depressing. I was hoping for a whole month that Togame would somehow pull through, though I suppose I always had a lingering feeling that it was not to be. The montage of clips of her really made me teary-eyed, she was one of my favorite characters in years, and I'm terribly sad to see her go.

That isn't to say I think it was a bad ending at all, it's just a hard hurdle to get over emotionally. She'll live on in Shichika's, and my (our), memories, at least.

Chiming in on the Hitei x Shichika ordeal, I think it could go either way, but I really *hope* that Shichika doesn't end up with her. That would just be too cruel of a fate, in my opinion.
I like to think that since Togame told Shichika to forget about her and live for himself, and seeing as how Shichika broke her other orders in this episode because she's no longer alive, that he would end up not following this one either, and hence keep living for her.

Might just be wishful thinking on my part, though.

[smithdavida]

Any thoughts on the underlying theme(s) to Katanagatari?

Spoiler for composition:

My overall perception:

The entire piece seemed to dwell on the nature of choice, with a particular emphasis on resolute decision making.

I can't help but feel a bit bummed out that most of the outcomes of having such "resolve" throughout the journey proved to be tragic.

[Dextro]

Spoiler for Last episode:

I find it interesting that hardly anyone commented on the symbolism of the snake in the reflection during the death scene, how it relates to Togame's mysterious eye and how it shows us which side of Togame is truly speaking.

My take is simple: the snake represents Togame's will for vengeance and how it was wrapping around her like a tight rope hence why in the last moments, after all that talk about being manipulative, the snake disappears and she, finally free from her quest, admits that she truly loved Shichika.

[Master_Yoma]

The ending did not disappoint at all it was well worth the wait now just got to get lucky and have some one license.

Why didnt he fight like that in the first 11eps

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Master_Yoma

The ending did not disappoint at all it was well worth the wait now just got to get lucky and have some one license.

Why didnt he fight like that in the first 11eps

He wasn't allowed to break the swords so he had to restrict himself. The only times that he lost was when there were even more restrictions. With Konayuki he couldn't hurt her and with Kiguchi he had to fight with a sword. Nanami was the only REAL opponent he ever had.

Also, I just want to add that it's possible that the bosses in the last episode weren't able to just the full potential of the swords because they weren't compatible. Swords choose their wielders and I believe the swords were forced on them this time so the swords became weak.

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

As for the lead girl, her title is Sexy (meaning Strategian, a fusion of tactician and strategist) Togame looking for 12 hentai swords, who keeps using the word “cheerio” with the wrong meaning. Isn’t that weird as heck? And it’s just the tip of the iceberg of what their personalities are like.

Can you stop twisting the pronounciation of Japanese words to make things sound like something they're not? Togame used a combination of kisaku (clever scheme) and sakushi (strategist) to form kisakushi and make up the word strategian. There is NO mention of "sexy" anywhere in that definition - heck, it's not even the same language. hentaitou means Deviant Blade, and it does NOT mean the perverted kind of hentai that you are emphasizing.

[Master Chibi]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

REVIEW TIME

Spoiler for wall of text:

PROLOGUE

Katanagatary (directly translated to English as Swordstory), is from the same guy who wrote Bakemonogatary. As famous as that anime was, I wasn’t very thrilled with its episodic nature. The smart gags and the wordplays were all nice but all the rest felt like random psychedelic rambling with lots of otaku culture cliches. But it still had enough artistic expression and weirdness to be memorable in a way.

Katanagatary is practically reusing the same formula, only here it offers a better feeling of progress, focuses more on the main characters and less on most others who come and go in the same episode they appear. I for once welcome this change in a positive light. You can’t watch the episodes in random order and the characters don’t mysteriously disappear after their use in the story is gone (even when killed are still mentioned in passing).

ENJOYMENT SECTION: 8

The strongest feature that exists here is its style of conscious trolling. You literally know the scriptwriter is messing with your expectations but you actually like it. That means, things are made as to make you expect something that never happens and surprises you with its unexpected turn of events. In most other series, being trolled is a very negative feature, the cause to hate an anime and downvote it for disappointing you. An easy example is the wars foreshadowed for dozens of chapters/episodes in famous fighting shounens such as Naruto and Bleach. We were promised a war of epic scale and were offered a lukewarm and poorly handled line of small spars that were hardly exiting.

Katanagatari managed to reverse the feeling with smart gags and wordplays. In literature, a famous method of foreshadowing is code-named “Chekhov’s Gun”. If you are given a detailed description of a gun, you are given the impression it will be useful in the plot later on, that someone will fire it or it will be a key element in revealing the mystery. Most authors are advised to hide their guns as best as possible with subtle hints and red herring in an attempt to make the revelation less expected. But not this author. No sir, he is firing his gun all the time and throws it at your face. You are of course expecting for this gun to be damn important later on. And no, that moment comes and goes as if the gun was just a cigarette lighter. Ooooh, you didn’t see that coming! How unexpected!

As I said, this works only because the show never tries to be too serious to anything other than the core reasons every character is fighting for. All your expectations from the plot, formed by decades of stereotypes and tropes are in this case working against you, being used by the author in a way to make YOU the reader/viewer the expected and the stereotype. The roles are in a way reversed and you become the kits factor. The joke is on you and in this case it is funny. It is a kind of humor that directs at you, making you part of the show. Just like when a magician makes a building disappear, you being present and gasping at the illusion is actually part of the act as well. You don’t know it but DAMN it works.

So yeah, I liked it how I was being trolled all the time with events I couldn’t predict. To the overcritical this will feel like the show is going through totally random events and stupid character reactions. Which is true and made deliberately as such. It was funny, unlike those stupid wars in other shows that were supposed to have seriousness and consistency. The only reason I didn’t give a full mark is because I’m not fond of the long talking feature. I prefer more action and less blah-blah, which is a personal taste that can vary from one person to another.

ANIMATION SECTION: 9

First of all two warnings about what will follow. By any means, do not try to view this show as historically accurate. It has ninjas dressed more colorfully than circus clowns, while it features guns and robots centuries before they are even invented and introduced to Japan. Also, by any means do not try to view this anime as an action series. It has action alright but it is much undermined in favor of dialogue. Plus, most battles are made to last only a few seconds as part of being trolled again. You would expect them to last for entire episodes yet they end quite fast and anti-climactically. Sounds frustrating but it’s meant to be funny.
Now onwards with the rest of the animation.

A nice contrast of plain character designs next to a broad range of colors and patterns filling said designs. It creates a dreamy feeling, open to personal interpretation. I mean, how old is each character or how does he look in real life? The artwork does not help; you need to imagine all that. And this is what makes it great; making you imagine the scene despite being shown to you. You are forming the details in your mind, basically embracing the characters. The environments are basically colorful cartoons so even when you don’t want to think, you are still taken in by the visuals, like reading a very well made picture book. See? Once again you are tricked to be part of the act. This is what I call genius.

But you don’t need to think so deep if you don’t want to. There still is a large amount of fan service present, as each scene with the main duo is basically passing like sexual foreplay. It is not original in any way but in this case the author once again manages to turn the joke on you. Because the stereotypical couple would be about a tsundere loosing her clothes all the time before the guy, who would immediately have a nosebleed, she will scream, call him a pervert and hit him a hundred times. Well, again this is not the case here. The lead guy has NO idea how to be ashamed of nude and the girl is NOT afraid to be naked. Heck, they spend a lot of time being naked or him smelling her hair and although it doesn’t feel sexy to them, we are completely taken in by the fact that for us it is. Ingenious!

I will still not give full points here. Although the cinematography part is brilliant, the characters remain terribly frozen for several minutes. It is supposed to be part of the whole picture book act but ten minutes of endless talking with the screen showing the same picture slowly scrolled sideways can get to your nerves. Not a tragic problem but I sure mind it a bit concerning animation... which means something moving.

SOUND SECTION: 9

Voice Acting is superb. Although at first it will feel like amateurish or stereotypical, in reality it’s again just more trolling. Each character will have a very distinctive voice, accompanied with personal catchphrases and different pinch in voice. It may feel like a repetitive joke at first but in reality it is a basic way of character immersion. At some point all their reasons for talking like that are exposed. So yeah, voices are not random cartoony squeaks. They are part of one’s personality.

The dialogues are again great to listen too. After all, most of the series consists of talking rather than acting, so we are talking about a lot of speech here. In fact you can watch half the show without even staring at the screen but just listening to what they say. What makes it interesting is once again the trolling part. You are constantly feeded with possible future actions that are proven fault or meaningless a few seconds later. Heck, the characters themselves are constantly fooling one another with misunderstandings and wordplays, so the feeling is mutual.

But jokes aside, the seemingly endless talking offers insight to each character’s personality. Ten minutes of a monologue and you know who someone is or what he/she wants. It will feel artificial or forced at times because of the long duration but it still helps you to get to know them. So yeah, great work here as well.

If I need to lower the score a bit, that will be the Music Themes. Nice pieces of pop with folklore and ambient overtones but not something to hum for life. Not a real minus but I only give full score to series with memorable songs. There are otherwise numerous and each episode even features a different ending.

STORY SECTION: 8

The core story is quite the simple one. One guy and one girl, stroll around Japan to find twelve magic swords. One each episode they face a villain of the month (well, it was a monthly series) and acquire a sword. This pattern does not change from beginning to end. But what DOES make it feel better is the way each sword is acquired. The method used each time is different, the circumstances are different, heck, the whole aim of the episode is different. So don’t expect the lead to constantly use his signature move as panacea every time. Each adversary needs a different approach. Another minor but nice detail is how the weather slowly changes per episode to signify the time of the year it takes place in.

So even in such a formulaic show there are plot twists. Some events occur in moments or in ways you were not expecting, thus being trolled once again in a good way. Even the ending is considered quite uncommon for such shows. Not only it is strong and solid but features events most would never expect the outcome despite the info being offered by previous events.

But as I said earlier most of the plot is talking rather than acting. The actual screen time of getting the sword lasts only around 5 minutes at each episode. The rest is getting to know the characters and fooling around, thus the core series is way too small next to the side stories of the characters they meet in each episode. Very good entreating-wise but rather poor story-wise. Most secondary characters are never shown for more than an episode so the feeling of expanding future possibilities as the episodes go by feels a bit off.

But other than that the pacing does not feel erratic at any point. Since each episode is pretty much self-contained in plot there is no room for fillers or staling. And no episode is really treated as unnecessary since there always is a sort of progress present; so it is not really bad. It’s just that powers and characters found on one episode would make an interesting event if they met powers and characters from following episodes. Sounds like poor excuse for needless crossovers but I still like the idea.

CHARACTER SECTION: 8

The prime thing any series needs to have is memorable characters. This show succeeds and wins by failing, thus performs a double victory. Sounds weird? Let me explain.

The main duo is definitely worth to remember. Although they initially feel like the usual tsundere and blockhead of so many anime out there, by the end of the show they are colorized and immersed so much that you have all the reason in the world to cherish them for life. That is something I can’t say for other shows with similar duos like Inu Yasha or Spice and Wolf. Their development and presence was a lot less bold, stretched amongst several episodes, most of which are fillers, while the ending was lukewarm at best. But here they did an excellent job at making them worthy. I mean, Shichika is a clueless to the world swordless swordsman; he fights better against swords when he is not holding one. Isn’t that weird enough? And here I though the three-sword style of Zorro from One Piece was too much. As for the lead girl, her title is Sexy (meaning Strategian, a fusion of tactician and strategist) Togame looking for 12 hentai swords, who keeps using the word “cheerio” with the wrong meaning. Isn’t that weird as heck? And it’s just the tip of the iceberg of what their personalities are like.

The secondary cast is also memorable for being… killed right away. Sounds weird but it’s the trolling effect again. Most adversaries will be presented as super powerful and will be handed a Chekhov’s gun. But when the action happens they will pretty much not use the gun and die fast and anti-climactically. What is funnier is how a simple handgun is far more powerful than elite ninjas. Which is true but still not something you would expect to see in a show about superhumans. Trooolled!

But anyway, most characters will still be colorized enough before they kick the bucket on the same episode they appear in. It will frustrate you but you will probably like the feeling. Think of it like the first time you kissed someone on the lips. That’s the one…

Besides that, all characters have a really strong presence on screen. They all have their set of catchphrases, unique uniforms, special attacks, demeanor, etc. For a cast where most are killed right away and the rest just talk to the end, they did a great job and I salute them for that.

And no, I still don’t give a full mark for a cast where most are rather stereotypical and die 20 minutes after they appear. This trolling trick still has its limitations.

VALUE: 7

I am not a fan of episodic plots or this trolling business. It worked on me all right but only this time. I am also not willing to sit down and relive all those long dialogues either. But heck, going though rough times in the anime industry I say this anime feels like an oasis in the desert. I mean, it is not devoid of moe, sex jokes, or meta-modern feeling but at the same time it is not aimless, carbon-copied, lukewarm adventure either. So ok, some say it pays tribute to Rurouni Kenshin, or Dragonball, or even Inu Yasha and Naruto. The similarities are still not clear enough to make it a retelling of those shows and to my knowledge it has a lot better directing and feeling than most of the above.

So yeah, it’s a good show… Even for MY strict tastes.

Average: 8/10

You make me ashamed to be Greek.

[Janifuu]

Originally Posted by hai_san

the hero actually wanted to die but all i get from this forum is a shipping war about Togame & Shichika or Shichika will be together with Hitei hime...

Originally Posted by shichi-chan

@hai san, Well, Not everyone is all into the shipping war lol. I mean I am more interested in the gauntlet and Emonzaemon.

Well, I wouldn't even be calling the discussion a "shipping war" really, since the idea of Shichika and Hiteihime eventually becoming an item is purely just a speculated idea that has no indication of happening, whereas with Shichika and Togame there's never really been any speculation - they've been an official item since pretty much the start of the story. I guess some people just enjoy exploring the idea and hypothetical scenario of what would happen between Shichika and Hiteihime after the story's end, though frankly I'm not one of them.

Originally Posted by Echoes

Chiming in on the Hitei x Shichika ordeal, I think it could go either way, but I really *hope* that Shichika doesn't end up with her. That would just be too cruel of a fate, in my opinion.
I like to think that since Togame told Shichika to forget about her and live for himself, and seeing as how Shichika broke her other orders in this episode because she's no longer alive, that he would end up not following this one either, and hence keep living for her.

Agreed, and I think that's one of the things that Shichika had portrayed in the last episode. Going against Togame's "final order" is essentially his way of saying that he'll continue to love her and, of course, not forget about her. Even if Shichika did try to obey the order, I think we can all agree that him simply "forgetting" about Togame would be a pretty impossible feat.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

REVIEW TIME

Spoiler for wall of text:

PROLOGUE

Katanagatary (directly translated to English as Swordstory), is from the same guy who wrote Bakemonogatary. As famous as that anime was, I wasn’t very thrilled with its episodic nature. The smart gags and the wordplays were all nice but all the rest felt like random psychedelic rambling with lots of otaku culture cliches. But it still had enough artistic expression and weirdness to be memorable in a way.

Katanagatary is practically reusing the same formula, only here it offers a better feeling of progress, focuses more on the main characters and less on most others who come and go in the same episode they appear. I for once welcome this change in a positive light. You can’t watch the episodes in random order and the characters don’t mysteriously disappear after their use in the story is gone (even when killed are still mentioned in passing).

ENJOYMENT SECTION: 8

The strongest feature that exists here is its style of conscious trolling. You literally know the scriptwriter is messing with your expectations but you actually like it. That means, things are made as to make you expect something that never happens and surprises you with its unexpected turn of events. In most other series, being trolled is a very negative feature, the cause to hate an anime and downvote it for disappointing you. An easy example is the wars foreshadowed for dozens of chapters/episodes in famous fighting shounens such as Naruto and Bleach. We were promised a war of epic scale and were offered a lukewarm and poorly handled line of small spars that were hardly exiting.

Katanagatari managed to reverse the feeling with smart gags and wordplays. In literature, a famous method of foreshadowing is code-named “Chekhov’s Gun”. If you are given a detailed description of a gun, you are given the impression it will be useful in the plot later on, that someone will fire it or it will be a key element in revealing the mystery. Most authors are advised to hide their guns as best as possible with subtle hints and red herring in an attempt to make the revelation less expected. But not this author. No sir, he is firing his gun all the time and throws it at your face. You are of course expecting for this gun to be damn important later on. And no, that moment comes and goes as if the gun was just a cigarette lighter. Ooooh, you didn’t see that coming! How unexpected!

As I said, this works only because the show never tries to be too serious to anything other than the core reasons every character is fighting for. All your expectations from the plot, formed by decades of stereotypes and tropes are in this case working against you, being used by the author in a way to make YOU the reader/viewer the expected and the stereotype. The roles are in a way reversed and you become the kits factor. The joke is on you and in this case it is funny. It is a kind of humor that directs at you, making you part of the show. Just like when a magician makes a building disappear, you being present and gasping at the illusion is actually part of the act as well. You don’t know it but DAMN it works.

So yeah, I liked it how I was being trolled all the time with events I couldn’t predict. To the overcritical this will feel like the show is going through totally random events and stupid character reactions. Which is true and made deliberately as such. It was funny, unlike those stupid wars in other shows that were supposed to have seriousness and consistency. The only reason I didn’t give a full mark is because I’m not fond of the long talking feature. I prefer more action and less blah-blah, which is a personal taste that can vary from one person to another.

ANIMATION SECTION: 9

First of all two warnings about what will follow. By any means, do not try to view this show as historically accurate. It has ninjas dressed more colorfully than circus clowns, while it features guns and robots centuries before they are even invented and introduced to Japan. Also, by any means do not try to view this anime as an action series. It has action alright but it is much undermined in favor of dialogue. Plus, most battles are made to last only a few seconds as part of being trolled again. You would expect them to last for entire episodes yet they end quite fast and anti-climactically. Sounds frustrating but it’s meant to be funny.
Now onwards with the rest of the animation.

A nice contrast of plain character designs next to a broad range of colors and patterns filling said designs. It creates a dreamy feeling, open to personal interpretation. I mean, how old is each character or how does he look in real life? The artwork does not help; you need to imagine all that. And this is what makes it great; making you imagine the scene despite being shown to you. You are forming the details in your mind, basically embracing the characters. The environments are basically colorful cartoons so even when you don’t want to think, you are still taken in by the visuals, like reading a very well made picture book. See? Once again you are tricked to be part of the act. This is what I call genius.

But you don’t need to think so deep if you don’t want to. There still is a large amount of fan service present, as each scene with the main duo is basically passing like sexual foreplay. It is not original in any way but in this case the author once again manages to turn the joke on you. Because the stereotypical couple would be about a tsundere loosing her clothes all the time before the guy, who would immediately have a nosebleed, she will scream, call him a pervert and hit him a hundred times. Well, again this is not the case here. The lead guy has NO idea how to be ashamed of nude and the girl is NOT afraid to be naked. Heck, they spend a lot of time being naked or him smelling her hair and although it doesn’t feel sexy to them, we are completely taken in by the fact that for us it is. Ingenious!

I will still not give full points here. Although the cinematography part is brilliant, the characters remain terribly frozen for several minutes. It is supposed to be part of the whole picture book act but ten minutes of endless talking with the screen showing the same picture slowly scrolled sideways can get to your nerves. Not a tragic problem but I sure mind it a bit concerning animation... which means something moving.

SOUND SECTION: 9

Voice Acting is superb. Although at first it will feel like amateurish or stereotypical, in reality it’s again just more trolling. Each character will have a very distinctive voice, accompanied with personal catchphrases and different pinch in voice. It may feel like a repetitive joke at first but in reality it is a basic way of character immersion. At some point all their reasons for talking like that are exposed. So yeah, voices are not random cartoony squeaks. They are part of one’s personality.

The dialogues are again great to listen too. After all, most of the series consists of talking rather than acting, so we are talking about a lot of speech here. In fact you can watch half the show without even staring at the screen but just listening to what they say. What makes it interesting is once again the trolling part. You are constantly feeded with possible future actions that are proven fault or meaningless a few seconds later. Heck, the characters themselves are constantly fooling one another with misunderstandings and wordplays, so the feeling is mutual.

But jokes aside, the seemingly endless talking offers insight to each character’s personality. Ten minutes of a monologue and you know who someone is or what he/she wants. It will feel artificial or forced at times because of the long duration but it still helps you to get to know them. So yeah, great work here as well.

If I need to lower the score a bit, that will be the Music Themes. Nice pieces of pop with folklore and ambient overtones but not something to hum for life. Not a real minus but I only give full score to series with memorable songs. There are otherwise numerous and each episode even features a different ending.

STORY SECTION: 8

The core story is quite the simple one. One guy and one girl, stroll around Japan to find twelve magic swords. One each episode they face a villain of the month (well, it was a monthly series) and acquire a sword. This pattern does not change from beginning to end. But what DOES make it feel better is the way each sword is acquired. The method used each time is different, the circumstances are different, heck, the whole aim of the episode is different. So don’t expect the lead to constantly use his signature move as panacea every time. Each adversary needs a different approach. Another minor but nice detail is how the weather slowly changes per episode to signify the time of the year it takes place in.

So even in such a formulaic show there are plot twists. Some events occur in moments or in ways you were not expecting, thus being trolled once again in a good way. Even the ending is considered quite uncommon for such shows. Not only it is strong and solid but features events most would never expect the outcome despite the info being offered by previous events.

But as I said earlier most of the plot is talking rather than acting. The actual screen time of getting the sword lasts only around 5 minutes at each episode. The rest is getting to know the characters and fooling around, thus the core series is way too small next to the side stories of the characters they meet in each episode. Very good entreating-wise but rather poor story-wise. Most secondary characters are never shown for more than an episode so the feeling of expanding future possibilities as the episodes go by feels a bit off.

But other than that the pacing does not feel erratic at any point. Since each episode is pretty much self-contained in plot there is no room for fillers or staling. And no episode is really treated as unnecessary since there always is a sort of progress present; so it is not really bad. It’s just that powers and characters found on one episode would make an interesting event if they met powers and characters from following episodes. Sounds like poor excuse for needless crossovers but I still like the idea.

CHARACTER SECTION: 8

The prime thing any series needs to have is memorable characters. This show succeeds and wins by failing, thus performs a double victory. Sounds weird? Let me explain.

The main duo is definitely worth to remember. Although they initially feel like the usual tsundere and blockhead of so many anime out there, by the end of the show they are colorized and immersed so much that you have all the reason in the world to cherish them for life. That is something I can’t say for other shows with similar duos like Inu Yasha or Spice and Wolf. Their development and presence was a lot less bold, stretched amongst several episodes, most of which are fillers, while the ending was lukewarm at best. But here they did an excellent job at making them worthy. I mean, Shichika is a clueless to the world swordless swordsman; he fights better against swords when he is not holding one. Isn’t that weird enough? And here I though the three-sword style of Zorro from One Piece was too much. As for the lead girl, her title is Sexy (meaning Strategian, a fusion of tactician and strategist) Togame looking for 12 hentai swords, who keeps using the word “cheerio” with the wrong meaning. Isn’t that weird as heck? And it’s just the tip of the iceberg of what their personalities are like.

The secondary cast is also memorable for being… killed right away. Sounds weird but it’s the trolling effect again. Most adversaries will be presented as super powerful and will be handed a Chekhov’s gun. But when the action happens they will pretty much not use the gun and die fast and anti-climactically. What is funnier is how a simple handgun is far more powerful than elite ninjas. Which is true but still not something you would expect to see in a show about superhumans. Trooolled!

But anyway, most characters will still be colorized enough before they kick the bucket on the same episode they appear in. It will frustrate you but you will probably like the feeling. Think of it like the first time you kissed someone on the lips. That’s the one…

Besides that, all characters have a really strong presence on screen. They all have their set of catchphrases, unique uniforms, special attacks, demeanor, etc. For a cast where most are killed right away and the rest just talk to the end, they did a great job and I salute them for that.

And no, I still don’t give a full mark for a cast where most are rather stereotypical and die 20 minutes after they appear. This trolling trick still has its limitations.

VALUE: 7

I am not a fan of episodic plots or this trolling business. It worked on me all right but only this time. I am also not willing to sit down and relive all those long dialogues either. But heck, going though rough times in the anime industry I say this anime feels like an oasis in the desert. I mean, it is not devoid of moe, sex jokes, or meta-modern feeling but at the same time it is not aimless, carbon-copied, lukewarm adventure either. So ok, some say it pays tribute to Rurouni Kenshin, or Dragonball, or even Inu Yasha and Naruto. The similarities are still not clear enough to make it a retelling of those shows and to my knowledge it has a lot better directing and feeling than most of the above.

So yeah, it’s a good show… Even for MY strict tastes.

Average: 8/10

Originally Posted by Master Chibi

You make me ashamed to be Greek.

Same here

Anyway, is it me or did they drag some scenes in the final episode (e.g. Togame's death speech).

Overall, it was a job well done, I wish they will continue with more adaptions from the author.

EDIT: After reading that the ending was depressing, unfair, etc. Guys remember:

1. Togame was released from her burden before death.
2. Sichika got a life
3. hime's obligation was fullfilled and she is free.
4. Emonzaemon died a warrior's death according to his principles.
5. The weak shogun was killed.
6. The deviant blades were destryed.
7. Most of the swords' owners were in one way or another freed by their curses.

From my point of view, most of the cast was freed from some overwhelming problem or situation.

[Kismet-chan]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

REVIEW TIME

Spoiler for wall of text:

PROLOGUE

Katanagatary (directly translated to English as Swordstory), is from the same guy who wrote Bakemonogatary. As famous as that anime was, I wasn’t very thrilled with its episodic nature. The smart gags and the wordplays were all nice but all the rest felt like random psychedelic rambling with lots of otaku culture cliches. But it still had enough artistic expression and weirdness to be memorable in a way.

Katanagatary is practically reusing the same formula, only here it offers a better feeling of progress, focuses more on the main characters and less on most others who come and go in the same episode they appear. I for once welcome this change in a positive light. You can’t watch the episodes in random order and the characters don’t mysteriously disappear after their use in the story is gone (even when killed are still mentioned in passing).

ENJOYMENT SECTION: 8

The strongest feature that exists here is its style of conscious trolling. You literally know the scriptwriter is messing with your expectations but you actually like it. That means, things are made as to make you expect something that never happens and surprises you with its unexpected turn of events. In most other series, being trolled is a very negative feature, the cause to hate an anime and downvote it for disappointing you. An easy example is the wars foreshadowed for dozens of chapters/episodes in famous fighting shounens such as Naruto and Bleach. We were promised a war of epic scale and were offered a lukewarm and poorly handled line of small spars that were hardly exiting.

Katanagatari managed to reverse the feeling with smart gags and wordplays. In literature, a famous method of foreshadowing is code-named “Chekhov’s Gun”. If you are given a detailed description of a gun, you are given the impression it will be useful in the plot later on, that someone will fire it or it will be a key element in revealing the mystery. Most authors are advised to hide their guns as best as possible with subtle hints and red herring in an attempt to make the revelation less expected. But not this author. No sir, he is firing his gun all the time and throws it at your face. You are of course expecting for this gun to be damn important later on. And no, that moment comes and goes as if the gun was just a cigarette lighter. Ooooh, you didn’t see that coming! How unexpected!

As I said, this works only because the show never tries to be too serious to anything other than the core reasons every character is fighting for. All your expectations from the plot, formed by decades of stereotypes and tropes are in this case working against you, being used by the author in a way to make YOU the reader/viewer the expected and the stereotype. The roles are in a way reversed and you become the kits factor. The joke is on you and in this case it is funny. It is a kind of humor that directs at you, making you part of the show. Just like when a magician makes a building disappear, you being present and gasping at the illusion is actually part of the act as well. You don’t know it but DAMN it works.

So yeah, I liked it how I was being trolled all the time with events I couldn’t predict. To the overcritical this will feel like the show is going through totally random events and stupid character reactions. Which is true and made deliberately as such. It was funny, unlike those stupid wars in other shows that were supposed to have seriousness and consistency. The only reason I didn’t give a full mark is because I’m not fond of the long talking feature. I prefer more action and less blah-blah, which is a personal taste that can vary from one person to another.

ANIMATION SECTION: 9

First of all two warnings about what will follow. By any means, do not try to view this show as historically accurate. It has ninjas dressed more colorfully than circus clowns, while it features guns and robots centuries before they are even invented and introduced to Japan. Also, by any means do not try to view this anime as an action series. It has action alright but it is much undermined in favor of dialogue. Plus, most battles are made to last only a few seconds as part of being trolled again. You would expect them to last for entire episodes yet they end quite fast and anti-climactically. Sounds frustrating but it’s meant to be funny.
Now onwards with the rest of the animation.

A nice contrast of plain character designs next to a broad range of colors and patterns filling said designs. It creates a dreamy feeling, open to personal interpretation. I mean, how old is each character or how does he look in real life? The artwork does not help; you need to imagine all that. And this is what makes it great; making you imagine the scene despite being shown to you. You are forming the details in your mind, basically embracing the characters. The environments are basically colorful cartoons so even when you don’t want to think, you are still taken in by the visuals, like reading a very well made picture book. See? Once again you are tricked to be part of the act. This is what I call genius.

But you don’t need to think so deep if you don’t want to. There still is a large amount of fan service present, as each scene with the main duo is basically passing like sexual foreplay. It is not original in any way but in this case the author once again manages to turn the joke on you. Because the stereotypical couple would be about a tsundere loosing her clothes all the time before the guy, who would immediately have a nosebleed, she will scream, call him a pervert and hit him a hundred times. Well, again this is not the case here. The lead guy has NO idea how to be ashamed of nude and the girl is NOT afraid to be naked. Heck, they spend a lot of time being naked or him smelling her hair and although it doesn’t feel sexy to them, we are completely taken in by the fact that for us it is. Ingenious!

I will still not give full points here. Although the cinematography part is brilliant, the characters remain terribly frozen for several minutes. It is supposed to be part of the whole picture book act but ten minutes of endless talking with the screen showing the same picture slowly scrolled sideways can get to your nerves. Not a tragic problem but I sure mind it a bit concerning animation... which means something moving.

SOUND SECTION: 9

Voice Acting is superb. Although at first it will feel like amateurish or stereotypical, in reality it’s again just more trolling. Each character will have a very distinctive voice, accompanied with personal catchphrases and different pinch in voice. It may feel like a repetitive joke at first but in reality it is a basic way of character immersion. At some point all their reasons for talking like that are exposed. So yeah, voices are not random cartoony squeaks. They are part of one’s personality.

The dialogues are again great to listen too. After all, most of the series consists of talking rather than acting, so we are talking about a lot of speech here. In fact you can watch half the show without even staring at the screen but just listening to what they say. What makes it interesting is once again the trolling part. You are constantly feeded with possible future actions that are proven fault or meaningless a few seconds later. Heck, the characters themselves are constantly fooling one another with misunderstandings and wordplays, so the feeling is mutual.

But jokes aside, the seemingly endless talking offers insight to each character’s personality. Ten minutes of a monologue and you know who someone is or what he/she wants. It will feel artificial or forced at times because of the long duration but it still helps you to get to know them. So yeah, great work here as well.

If I need to lower the score a bit, that will be the Music Themes. Nice pieces of pop with folklore and ambient overtones but not something to hum for life. Not a real minus but I only give full score to series with memorable songs. There are otherwise numerous and each episode even features a different ending.

STORY SECTION: 8

The core story is quite the simple one. One guy and one girl, stroll around Japan to find twelve magic swords. One each episode they face a villain of the month (well, it was a monthly series) and acquire a sword. This pattern does not change from beginning to end. But what DOES make it feel better is the way each sword is acquired. The method used each time is different, the circumstances are different, heck, the whole aim of the episode is different. So don’t expect the lead to constantly use his signature move as panacea every time. Each adversary needs a different approach. Another minor but nice detail is how the weather slowly changes per episode to signify the time of the year it takes place in.

So even in such a formulaic show there are plot twists. Some events occur in moments or in ways you were not expecting, thus being trolled once again in a good way. Even the ending is considered quite uncommon for such shows. Not only it is strong and solid but features events most would never expect the outcome despite the info being offered by previous events.

But as I said earlier most of the plot is talking rather than acting. The actual screen time of getting the sword lasts only around 5 minutes at each episode. The rest is getting to know the characters and fooling around, thus the core series is way too small next to the side stories of the characters they meet in each episode. Very good entreating-wise but rather poor story-wise. Most secondary characters are never shown for more than an episode so the feeling of expanding future possibilities as the episodes go by feels a bit off.

But other than that the pacing does not feel erratic at any point. Since each episode is pretty much self-contained in plot there is no room for fillers or staling. And no episode is really treated as unnecessary since there always is a sort of progress present; so it is not really bad. It’s just that powers and characters found on one episode would make an interesting event if they met powers and characters from following episodes. Sounds like poor excuse for needless crossovers but I still like the idea.

CHARACTER SECTION: 8

The prime thing any series needs to have is memorable characters. This show succeeds and wins by failing, thus performs a double victory. Sounds weird? Let me explain.

The main duo is definitely worth to remember. Although they initially feel like the usual tsundere and blockhead of so many anime out there, by the end of the show they are colorized and immersed so much that you have all the reason in the world to cherish them for life. That is something I can’t say for other shows with similar duos like Inu Yasha or Spice and Wolf. Their development and presence was a lot less bold, stretched amongst several episodes, most of which are fillers, while the ending was lukewarm at best. But here they did an excellent job at making them worthy. I mean, Shichika is a clueless to the world swordless swordsman; he fights better against swords when he is not holding one. Isn’t that weird enough? And here I though the three-sword style of Zorro from One Piece was too much. As for the lead girl, her title is Sexy (meaning Strategian, a fusion of tactician and strategist) Togame looking for 12 hentai swords, who keeps using the word “cheerio” with the wrong meaning. Isn’t that weird as heck? And it’s just the tip of the iceberg of what their personalities are like.

The secondary cast is also memorable for being… killed right away. Sounds weird but it’s the trolling effect again. Most adversaries will be presented as super powerful and will be handed a Chekhov’s gun. But when the action happens they will pretty much not use the gun and die fast and anti-climactically. What is funnier is how a simple handgun is far more powerful than elite ninjas. Which is true but still not something you would expect to see in a show about superhumans. Trooolled!

But anyway, most characters will still be colorized enough before they kick the bucket on the same episode they appear in. It will frustrate you but you will probably like the feeling. Think of it like the first time you kissed someone on the lips. That’s the one…

Besides that, all characters have a really strong presence on screen. They all have their set of catchphrases, unique uniforms, special attacks, demeanor, etc. For a cast where most are killed right away and the rest just talk to the end, they did a great job and I salute them for that.

And no, I still don’t give a full mark for a cast where most are rather stereotypical and die 20 minutes after they appear. This trolling trick still has its limitations.

VALUE: 7

I am not a fan of episodic plots or this trolling business. It worked on me all right but only this time. I am also not willing to sit down and relive all those long dialogues either. But heck, going though rough times in the anime industry I say this anime feels like an oasis in the desert. I mean, it is not devoid of moe, sex jokes, or meta-modern feeling but at the same time it is not aimless, carbon-copied, lukewarm adventure either. So ok, some say it pays tribute to Rurouni Kenshin, or Dragonball, or even Inu Yasha and Naruto. The similarities are still not clear enough to make it a retelling of those shows and to my knowledge it has a lot better directing and feeling than most of the above.

So yeah, it’s a good show… Even for MY strict tastes.

Average: 8/10

Originally Posted by Master Chibi

You make me ashamed to be Greek.

Same here as well. :/

Originally Posted by Dextro

Spoiler for Last episode:

I find it interesting that hardly anyone commented on the symbolism of the snake in the reflection during the death scene, how it relates to Togame's mysterious eye and how it shows us which side of Togame is truly speaking.

My take is simple: the snake represents Togame's will for vengeance and how it was wrapping around her like a tight rope hence why in the last moments, after all that talk about being manipulative, the snake disappears and she, finally free from her quest, admits that she truly loved Shichika.

That's a pretty interesting way to look at it, I'll give you that. Even if that isn't it's actual purpose, if definitely works.

As for Togame's eye, it's purely aesthetic -- Take just wanted to give her some sort of interesting visual quirk.

[roriconfan]

what's with all the negativity about my review? You didn't like the troll factor?

I don't know if they posted this already but here it goes

Spoiler for similarities:

http://i51.tinypic.com/sl732u.png

[Daniel Lind]

roriconfan, you was right the whole way.
*sigh*

[klare]

ahh the show proved me wrong again: Togame died, ended with the most unexpected pairing, Shichika survived despite all those injuries, "Cheerio" did not become popular in japan etc

it also seems to make fun of the viewers by destroying the 11 kanatas in less than 1 minute each...

overall, the story-telling is unique, the art style is one-kind but will get used to it quickly and the series is really enjoyable

my fav char: Nanami

[Shikijin]

I think that, while overall good, the adaptation could have used some little touch of direction here and there. For example playing a triumphant music while Shichika was winning in ep. 11. Somehow I even feel I was left short of some explanation here and there, though I don't have read the novels.

Overall though I am satisfied, with the anime, the story, the final episode and the conclusion.

Honestly, I don't really know if Hitei and Shichika will become a real couple. Probably, if they stay together, eventually it is bound to happen, but Shichika also appears to have some kind of ascetic character, so romance is not exactly his priority in life.

The point is that indeed Hitei and Togame were just teasing each other and somehow they were actually very close. Hitei is just a contrarian, one who does the opposite of what she is expected to do. At the same time, Emonzaemon was the only person Shichika thought was able to kill him. Therefore Shichika and Hitei both highly respect their reciprocal most important person. It is a bit complicated, but that makes it ok in my book.

It was also said in the first episode that Togame would have betrayed Shichika. Though somehow it came unexpected after all this time, it's not unjustified. It's like Togame had a real personality (princess Yousha) and a mask personality (Togame), and while the real personality was the one in charge and only wanted revenge for his father, it was the mask personality that fell in love with Shichika. Kind of like a conflict between the mind and the heart. The problem doesn't appear to be whether Togame loves or don't love Shichika. She loves him. It's just that she won't necessarily follow her heart.

Overall this is indeed a tragedy, but in the Oriental style. No absolute good or absolute evil, just people doing their own thing, living and dying. The impermanence of everything while the time flows. Bravo, Nisio.

Btw, I think nobody said this. Emonzaemon has 不忍 written on the mask. Though as someone correctly said per se it means "unconcealed", 忍 is the kanji of ninja/shinobi, so in a sense Emonzaemon is "not ninja", slightly mirroring Shichika with his "school of the no sword" (虚刀流).

[omimon]

Originally Posted by klare

my fav char: Nanami

I'm pretty a majority of people's fav was Nanami too. Damn it, why are batshit insane girls so appealing.

[sayde]

I've pretty much watched all 12 episodes for mostly the music and the fight scenes. So while some delivered more than others in these particular areas, the final episode definitely didn't disappoint. For me, it was easily the best episode in the series.

(now I just need to get my hands on the song that began playing the moment Shichika faced-off against Hannyamaru).

[Kunagisa]

I hope someone like MAD!!

http://zoome.jp/gin2/diary/103

[Janifuu]

Originally Posted by klare

ahh the show proved me wrong again: Togame died, ended with the most unexpected pairing, Shichika survived despite all those injuries, "Cheerio" did not become popular in japan etc

my fav char: Nanami

What "unexpected pairing"? If you are referring to Shichika and Hiteihime, then no, they did not become official in the end, as there was not a single thing to indicate that it would potentially happen. Shichika and Hiteihime have their respective important people already, even despite the fact that each of them died. I don't think that is something that will ever change.

Though Nanami is indeed awesome. I'll miss her.

[Shikijin]

I think I have understood what was the point behind Togame's cross-eye. The eye that gets crossed is the left one. The left side of the body is controlled by the right hemisphere of the brain. The right side of the body is controlled by the left hemisphere of the brain. The left hemisphere of the brain, as popularly understood, is connected to logic. The right hemisphere of the brain, instead, is connected to... emotions.

The day Togame first got the cross-eye was when Shichika's father killed her father. That day, Togame lost all emotions.

Eventually, she was able to recover back to some sort of normality, but the damage couldn't be undone. Togame is able to switch on and off her emotions at will. I can't remember every frame in which there was the cross-eye, but I think she did it every time she need to focus on her logical side; possibly when she was greedy or when she was lying; in the last episode it was because she was deadly serious. That was the point of her VA reading the lines in monotone. Togame wasn't feeling anything (excluding, that is, the pain of the bullet wounds).

I think Togame's last words have been misunderstood. It's not exactly like she admitted her love to Shichika; that would be discarding all the things she has said up to that moment. What she said was "You are the enemy of my father and I am going to kill you no matter what. It is against your best interest to stay by my side. Still, the fact you heard all this and still love me, honestly, it made me happy". What Togame did was admitting that if things went another way, she would have loved Shichika. This is the best she could say. Togame was regretting there could be no love story between her and Shichika. She had never truely loved him. She just deeply wanted to. She still wished to be loved by Shichika. However, as it is, their love is impossible.

[Janifuu]

Originally Posted by Shikijin

I think I have understood what was the point behind Togame's cross-eye. The eye that gets crossed is the left one. The left side of the body is controlled by the right hemisphere of the brain. The right side of the body is controlled by the left hemisphere of the brain. The left hemisphere of the brain, as popularly understood, is connected to logic. The right hemisphere of the brain, instead, is connected to... emotions.

The day Togame first got the cross-eye was when Shichika's father killed her father. That day, Togame lost all emotions.

Eventually, she was able to recover back to some sort of normality, but the damage couldn't be undone. Togame is able to switch on and off her emotions at will. I can't remember every frame in which there was the cross-eye, but I think she did it every time she need to focus on her logical side; possibly when she was greedy or when she was lying; in the last episode it was because she was deadly serious. That was the point of her VA reading the lines in monotone. Togame wasn't feeling anything (excluding, that is, the pain of the bullet wounds).

I think Togame's last words have been misunderstood. It's not exactly like she admitted her love to Shichika; that would be discarding all the things she has said up to that moment. What she said was "You are the enemy of my father and I am going to kill you no matter what. It is against your best interest to stay by my side. Still, the fact you heard all this and still love me, honestly, it made me happy". What Togame did was admitting that if things went another way, she would have loved Shichika. This is the best she could say. Togame was regretting there could be no love story between her and Shichika. She had never truely loved him. She just deeply wanted to. She still wished to be loved by Shichika. However, as it is, their love is impossible.

I have to disagree with most of what you've stated. While there's definitely two sides to Togame's character, to say that she's really loved Shichika is a huge stretch and is untrue. She did in fact acknowledge her love for him during her final words, she just also wanted to elaborate on what her initial feelings/intentions at the beginning of their journey were, and that over time she had began to see and feel things differently. Before she knew it, her feelings for him did come into fruition, and really it didn't take much time at all for us to see that. What she was essentially saying was "I didn't mean to fall in love with you at first, but it turns out that I did. A part of me didn't want that, but the other part couldn't help it and wanted to keep loving you." Those feelings reigned dominant over her "initial" intentions, and its shown to be quite evident throughout the story. I don't think she really regretted much if anything, be it her quest to collect the swords, or her love for Shichika. She was happy, she had fun, and above all, she allowed herself to fall for Shichika, just as she herself stated. Shichika knew that very well. The love between them had always been mutual, and I really don't think it will ever change, even despite Togame's death.