2013-06-15, 01:41 | Link #7221 |
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I guess that with the new update, we have finally learned why Madam Aisha is rumored to live in seclusion ... along with the reason, why she has means to survive an encounter with the King of the End.
It also lessens the probability that Aisha's holes are going to be used to make them, go back to the present era, since they only open, once for a few years - and I don't see the author making Godou spend a few years in the past, with the company of Erica and Ena ... since, doing something like that, would have pretty heavy consequences . |
2013-06-15, 01:42 | Link #7222 | |
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Camel isn't indestructible and just gives extra endurance. He possesses immortality with the Ram alright but that doesn't make him [Steel] already. And if Verethragna was [Steel], then Godou would have had an easier time against his first battle with Athena. Lastly, there is nothing within Verethragna's lore that fits the story's definition of [Steel] of "immortality", "indestructibility", or "strong connection over snakes and dragons." Perseus is connected to Medusa, Ama no Murakumo is a sword which came from Yamata no Orochi, Sun Wukong bathed in a furnace and some other lores mixed in to get an immortal body, Siegfried slew a dragon and bathed in its blood to become invulnerable. So no. |
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2013-06-15, 02:44 | Link #7223 | ||
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And again: are we sure Aisha was born before the 19th century? Quote:
However, I think that Verethragna is/was a very "impure" [Steel] divinity. Remember, gods can be hybrids, with hybrids showing less and less traits of their fundamental nature, and showing greater complexity. |
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2013-06-15, 03:47 | Link #7224 | |
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2013-06-15, 05:07 | Link #7227 | |
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"Hoho, very well. Then Kusanagi Godou, I grant my blessing to thee who has been reborn as the new god-slaying king! Thou art the first person to usurp mine -- the authority of the god of victory! Becomest stronger than anyone else! Until the day I shall fight thee again, possessest my undefeatable body!" Verethragna "Hmph, hahahahahahaha. How useless of you, Verethragna. To think the god of victory would meet defeat at the hands of a frail and weak human child" Melqart "Yes, I understand what thou art trying to say. Even so, the fact remaineth, I am the undefeated god of victory, dost thou still wish to resist? It is better to obey honestly" Verethragna if verethragna is steel then he doesn't know who he is
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2013-06-15, 05:25 | Link #7228 |
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"Speaking of recent events that could have garnered the Old One's interest, how about the incident at Naples? The battle against Perseus."
'Ah yes, Amakasu-san called him the Hero of Steel, right?' "Yes, Perseus is the archetypical hero of steel with the [Sword] attribute. Verethragna, who Kusanagi Godou unwittingly defeated, also belongs to the same category." The ancestor of Verethragna, Mithra, also had a "born from stone" legend. There is also the Armenian war god Vahagn who has been called the brother of Verethragna. The hero god possessing flaming hair and beard, and born from the crimson sea. Stones, in other words, ore, the origin of iron. Fire, to melt ore. Wind, to start fires and fan the flames. Water, to cool the newly forged metal. The intricate relationships between the elements are all essential to the various sword gods. 'Just like King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table?' |
2013-06-15, 05:26 | Link #7229 |
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Steel is simply an attribute.
Being a god of victory doesn't exclude Verethragna from having other attributes. It's not like Perseus, Sun Wukong, Lancelot and Siegfried are gods over steel per se, they are gods who exhibit the attribute of steel.
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2013-06-15, 05:30 | Link #7230 | |
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And I would agree that V-tan is a hybrid because the [White Stallion] which is a power of the sun, and the [Bull] and [Camel] which I remember were said to be earth related. However, the other incarnations don't exactly exhibit any semblance to the properties of [Steel] which I mentioned above. The [Ram] might be immortality but it's more related to the earth rather than the immortal properties of [Steel]. |
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2013-06-15, 05:38 | Link #7232 | |
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"Yes, Perseus is the archetypical hero of steel with the [Sword] attribute. Verethragna, who Kusanagi Godou unwittingly defeated, also belongs to the same category." It depends on what "same category" refers to exactly. Is it the entire description of being a "hero of steel with the [Sword] attribute" or just the part about bearing "the [Sword] attribute"? That's the question. In any case, even if Verethragna is steel, he would be a highly impure and diluted example.
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2013-06-15, 06:31 | Link #7233 | |
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2013-06-15, 07:16 | Link #7234 | |
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I'm more and more convinced that the "1800 years" thing was inaccurate information we all believed, and over time it became "canon" to us.
So until I get information contradicting such a belief/thought/position, I'm putting Aisha at 200+ years old, instead of 1800+. Also, Godou needs to get his head looked at: Quote:
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2013-06-15, 08:07 | Link #7236 | |
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Erica's ancestor was indeed a campione. I believe(not so sure) he lived between one hundred-two hundred years ago before present time.His illegitimate son established the Bronze Black Cross association using the esteem of his father. |
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2013-06-15, 08:16 | Link #7237 |
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Wow, it´s usual to see Erica embarrassed like that considering all she´s willing and hoping to do with Godou in the future. At this point there no denying that all the girls love to see the wild side of Godou that only shows when facing an incredible battle or when he´s deeply worried for them as seeing in the balttle against the Monkey King.
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2013-06-15, 08:40 | Link #7239 | |
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2013-06-15, 09:09 | Link #7240 |
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I wonder whats Doni been up to until now. It doesn't seem like he was brought to the same time or else Godou would surely here news about him unless he is just happily cutting those "dragons" in half this whole time.
Maybe when Godou and the others get back to the present, they'll find an illustration of Doni in a history book. |
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