Fate/ Series Q&A

[Moczo]

I'm sure Rider is there in the room, yes, but Saber was right next door. If she were actually having physical sex with Shirou, wouldn't Saber hear it? I'm wondering more if Rider was like... I don't know, in astral form hovering over his bedside and screwing with his mind somehow. It doesn't seem possible for her to take on a physical body and just straddle him, y'know? Someone would notice.

[Haak]

Originally Posted by Moczo

I'm sure Rider is there in the room, yes, but Saber was right next door. If she were actually having physical sex with Shirou, wouldn't Saber hear it?

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Didn't think of that...

[GDB]

No one's better at Riding than Rider. Maybe she's just that good.

[Haak]

Maybe Saber was just like *Huh what the hell is that noise? I better take a lo- OMG WTF R U DOIN? Okay, I don't care if you do get killed Shirou. I am NOT going in there. You're on your own...*

[Cherry_Lover]

Yeah, it is somewhat odd that Rider was able to do that, but then again it's odd that she's able to get into the house at all, given that

Spoiler for HF:

Sakura is not known to be a master at that point (and, if Saber were to find out, I doubt she'd keep it quiet...), and I can't imagine her being able to invade his dreams from the Matou house....

[DragoZERO]

*ahem*

Spoiler for Visual Novel: Heaven's Feel:

She was physically there, and used the ability of the band she puts over her eyes to manipulate his dream. Shirou chose who would appear. How she got in? We can assume several things but the simple reason is because Nasu needed another sex scene with Rin. Each girl had two.

[Moczo]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

*ahem*

Spoiler for Visual Novel: Heaven's Feel:

She was physically there, and used the ability of the band she puts over her eyes to manipulate his dream. Shirou chose who would appear. How she got in? We can assume several things but the simple reason is because Nasu needed another sex scene with Rin. Each girl had two.

Spoiler for We're spoiling it now? Okay.:

So she was in the room, but any 'sex' was all in his mind. Gotcha.

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by Moczo

Spoiler for We're spoiling it now? Okay.:

So she was in the room, but any 'sex' was all in his mind. Gotcha.

Well... you spoiled it a while ago, lol.

Spoiler for Heaven's Feel:

We don't know for sure if she didn't physically have sex with him, I guess that is something up to interpretation. But like everyone said, Saber was in the room so I don't see how they could have had such a romp about without waking her up. I say she didn't have sex with him, that's my take on it.

[Cherry_Lover]

Spoiler for Heaven's Feel:

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

We don't know for sure if she didn't physically have sex with him, I guess that is something up to interpretation. But like everyone said, Saber was in the room so I don't see how they could have had such a romp about without waking her up. I say she didn't have sex with him, that's my take on it.

Well, she did it to get mana from him, and she can't do that unless she actually did have sex with him, so....

[Moczo]

Originally Posted by Cherry_Lover

Spoiler for Heaven's Feel:

Well, she did it to get mana from him, and she can't do that unless she actually did have sex with him, so....

Spoiler for Heaven's Feel:

Maybe she like... entered his dreams in a more literal sense than we're giving her credit for. Like she can actually enter his mind while he's sleeping or something and draw mana directly from his Magic Circuits that way, bypassing the need for a physical connection. Because otherwise, this is kind of a huge plothole; even discounting the whole 'sex is loud' thing, if she were in the house and not in her astral form, Saber would have sensed her presence.

[DragoZERO]

I think this mystery was solved in F/HA... but since it's not in English, I don't know for sure. Too bad Mirror-moon didn't TL it.

[bhl88]

Originally Posted by Moczo

In Heaven's Feel, when Rider... erm, 'mana drains' Shirou. Is it purely a dream thing, or is she actually physically there in the room having sex with him?

Which one was that?

[Haak]

It only happened once...

[Bersas]

Spoiler for for Heaven's Feel:

About the "mana drain" could it just be sakura who was present, rider just freeze him with her mystic eyes from a distance and sakura herself do the job, saber noticed them but just consider it wasn't her busines.
There is a discusion after about the"cold" of shirou and sakura fell guilty, i don't realy believe about a "wireless manadrain"

[Cherry_Lover]

Spoiler for for Heaven's Feel:

Originally Posted by Bersas

About the "mana drain" could it just be sakura who was present, rider just freeze him with her mystic eyes from a distance and sakura herself do the job, saber noticed them but just consider it wasn't her busines.
There is a discusion after about the"cold" of shirou and sakura fell guilty, i don't realy believe about a "wireless manadrain"

No, because a)Sakura would rather die than force herself on Shirou and b) if it were Sakura, Shirou wouldn't have dreamt of Rin. Also, Saber wouldn't consider Sakura raping Shirou to be "none of her business". As far as she's concerned, that would count as an "attack" on her master.

As for the discussion the next day, Sakura was well aware of what had happened, but presumably because Rider told her (or she saw it through the connection or worked it out from the fact that she had mana and Shirou didn't...). She wouldn't have had sex with Shirou like that, and nor could she have done that (she can't give erotic dreams and she doesn't have square pupils...).

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Haak

I'm imagining a Saber Alter in Avalon. Merlin would not be pleased...

maybe not, Merlin was responsible for futuri saber

[Malkuth]

Kind of a specialized question ...

How does Sakura address Shinji and Shirou, and vice versa?

[GDB]

Sakura to Shinji: Onii-san
Sakura to Shirou: Senpai

Shirou to Sakura: Sakura
Shinji to Sakura: I believe he either just says Sakura or doesn't even use her name and just denotes her as if beneath him (omae, aitsu, etc). Don't recall exactly.

[Malkuth]

Thanks mate, I'll have a freebie for Sakura's fans in a couple of months

In between ... onii-san that's boring, I hoped for ani-ue, or at least -sama does she also use humble forms ... ah, nevermind, I will check the anime, that's far easier to figure out

[Cherry_Lover]

Originally Posted by GDB

Sakura to Shinji: Onii-san

Nii-san, actually.

Sakura to Shirou: Senpai

Yeah, this.

Shinji to Sakura: I believe he either just says Sakura or doesn't even use her name and just denotes her as if beneath him (omae, aitsu, etc). Don't recall exactly.

In the English translation he says "Sakura", but I'm not sure about the Japanese version.

Originally Posted by Malkuth

Thanks mate, I'll have a freebie for Sakura's fans in a couple of months

Nice....

In between ... onii-san that's boring, I hoped for ani-ue, or at least -sama does she also use humble forms ... ah, nevermind, I will check the anime, that's far easier to figure out

I'm not sure the anime is trustworthy on that respect, however. If there's a conflict between what we said and the anime, then what we say is right....