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Perfect 10 | 25 | 23.58% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 33 | 31.13% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 19 | 17.92% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 17 | 16.04% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 4.72% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 2.83% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.94% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.94% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.89% | |
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2010-11-18, 08:11 | Link #201 | ||
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2010-11-18, 09:08 | Link #202 | ||
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I've heard it said that a good tsundere is like a good french fry - enjoyably crispy on the outside, but endearingly soft on the inside. That analogy I get. The problem is that with out the soft inside, it's like biting into hard bread, which isn't as fun as eating a french fry is.
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2010-11-18, 09:45 | Link #203 |
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at the french fry vs hard bread analogy...but it kinda works!
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2010-11-18, 11:00 | Link #204 | |
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2010-11-18, 12:26 | Link #206 | ||
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2010-11-18, 13:21 | Link #208 | |
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2010-11-18, 14:24 | Link #209 | ||
Alto x Ranka :)
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Also for the record, Kirino isn't Haruhi. While we can make some direct/indirect comparisons between these two characters, they also have completely different motivations. Quote:
It seems to me that Kirino is just an inexperienced 14 year old girl. As far as we know Kirino doesn't have a boyfriend and I don't think it would be difficult to conclude that she has never had one. While she's trying to get closer to Kyousuke all she knows is eroge. Even in the very first episode Kirino tells Kyousuke to keep 2D and 3D separate so I'd like to believe that Kirino is very much aware of the differences. Also if you've noticed, Kirino only has female friends and we've yet to see any real interaction between her and a male aside from Kyousuke. Like I said, the only interaction Kirino knows is from her eroge when dealing with a loved one (referring to the opposite sex of course.) Now whether that be brotherly or romantically is another story but that's besides the point. From my perspective, I can understand why she's using eroge as a reference if we consider her naive outlook on a relationship between a male and a female. The "bucket of water" scene was meant to be taken serious because Kyousuke stated that Kirino was only writing her novel out of self-satisfaction and Kirino proved him wrong by using the bucket of water. Admittedly this was a bit extreme but that's how Kirino's character is written so it's consistent with her personality. One thing about Kirino is that she is always driven and determined so she found it insulting when Kyousuke challenged her, the difference this time is that she didn't scream at him or threaten him. Instead Kirino found a way to prove her intentions were genuine. Hmmm, maybe Kirino has developed some since episode 1
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2010-11-18, 15:05 | Link #210 | |
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Kirino is usually one of my absolute favorite types of characters, but I don't like her very much. I don't think she's a potential murderer or anything, but I think the show has been letting her off the hook too easily and that's a turn off.
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2010-11-18, 16:06 | Link #211 | |
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That scene in particular is why I can't tell whether or not she was kidding about asking Kyousuke stepping into traffic. She seems so mentally unbalanced that I have no idea what the heck she's thinking anymore. Quote:
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2010-11-18, 22:50 | Link #214 | ||
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Just for the sake of discussion (and to satisfy my curiosity ), would you mind explicating on what the show is doing to let her "off the hook?"
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2010-11-18, 23:04 | Link #215 | ||
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None of the situations Kirino has gotten in have been life-threatening, so they're ideal for character-growing moments. Yes, she would have been in deep shit with her father. Yes, she might have lost a friend. But these are things we all go through. It's what causes us to learn from our mistakes and become better people. But when Kirino not only gets to sidestep the full impact of these things AND has a consistently bad attitude about everything that doesn't gratify her wishes, it's not very pleasant for me to watch.
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2010-11-18, 23:47 | Link #216 | ||
Alto x Ranka :)
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In other words, I agree with you here While Kirino certainly is selfish and stubborn, she does have her redeeming qualities such as being responsible with her job and school-work. I hope we do get to see something with Kirino that will impact her development better.
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2010-11-19, 00:27 | Link #217 | |
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Edit: I find it interesting that at least two openly female posters here have been critical of Kirino. My one worry in being critical of her is that I might not be getting a key justification for her actions since I'm a man, and hence can't fully relate to a teenage girl. Hence, it's good to see that many of the same sorts of critiques that I've made of Kirino are also ones made by female posters here. Edit 2: I agree with DeX-kun on the idea that Kirino has never had a boyfriend. Frankly, I don't know where she'd have time for one. That being said, I wouldn't say she'd make a horrible girlfriend just because of how she treats Kyousuke. She might be entirely different with a boyfriend than she is with her brother. She also does have a lot of good points of course: good marks in school, a solid job, clearly not someone the least bit lazy, etc...
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There are roles siblings naturally take and roles siblings don't naturally take. If something was threatening Kirino physically, then I would expect Kyousuke to step in. I'd be angry if he didn't. But we all need to take emotional knocks ourselves. For Kyousuke to keep on shielding her from the emotional consequences of her own choices means that he's stifling her natural growth into a mature young lady. Quote:
To me, it's sort of funny how people were discussing earlier about relationship progression. Listen, Kirino spending time with Kyousuke of her own accord is not a "reward". It's not adequate repayment for the things Kyousuke has done for her socially. Not being totally rude to him, expressing happiness over the expensive thing he bought her, thanking him for defending her from their dad...these are the bare minimum for someone who isn't a complete sociopath when someone has put himself on the line for her like he has. Kirino might be a nice-looking, vivacious girl, but that alone isn't license to do whatever you want. Quote:
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2010-11-19, 05:42 | Link #219 |
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Why does it feel like people have never seen a Tsundere character before?
I can put my hand in a basket and pull out an anime with the same character type as Kirino. It's nothing new and to dissect over... her intentions are extremely obvious, what's there to debate?
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2010-11-19, 06:28 | Link #220 | |
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EDIT: And usually there's a reason why the male lead endures it. That or he simply lacks the will to fight back. But in this case the male lead actively seeks out to her (at least since the season started). Why? Did Kyousuke do something to her in the past that he needs to make up for? Did he make a promise to a now deceased childhood friend that he would take care of her? Is he stuck in another world and is magically bound to her? Is he actually dead and needs to make her happy so he can ascend to heaven? Is he trying to break a cat god's curse? Is he a masochist that takes pleasure from all the pain and humiliation she puts him through? Did he lose a bet? Did she save his life in the past? Did she give him one of her kidneys? Is he going to get 100 million dollars after this is over? Was he raised as her aide, as in a main house/lower house kinda thing? Something. Anything. But as it stands now I don't see why he would seek reconciliation with her, or why he doesn't take offense at the way she treats him or why he values her social standing over his own. If the roles were reversed would she do the same for him?
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