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frubam · 2010-06-24, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drago

Spoiler for Nene Days - Chapter 5:

Yah, I liked the look of it too, but I didnt' really like the "slantedness" of the drawings(I just read this chap 5 randomly). Ditto on the protangonist, the whole "1st person view" thing seems kinda stupid in general, though I really loved it in Isshoni H Shiyo =03.

DragoZERO · 2010-08-28, 09:10

Rinko Days is out...

Spoiler for Rinko Days Chapter 3:

Last Sinner · 2010-09-01, 11:29

Mmm, caught chapters 2 and 3 of Rinko Days.

Spoiler for ch2:

And then the utterly sublime Chapter 3...

Spoiler for ch3:

Well...this was just utterly tense from start to finish! Rinko was beyond volatile - she was virtually catatonic. But what made Rinko so engaging despite her aggression and spite was that Seo captured the crucial moments PERFECLTY. Page 7 when Rinko approached Aikawa at the tree - I remember that frame as an in-game shot I found somewhere. Rinko looks gentle, but you just know she's on the verge of exploding at that point. Page 17 when she's crying - simple yet it really cut to the bone. Rinko's true self is finally out in the open for Aikawa to see and he finally gets it. But the best panel was the first one on Page 25 - Rinko frozen in shock as if she's in a dream, her eyes suddenly going all warm, her hair draping over her right eye, a mouth that's almost ready to gape open. There's a really overwhelming sense of hope and longing in that single panel. It lasts for a few moments before Rinko reverts to her usual self, but that is all that's needed. The real Rinko has been shown courtesy of Aikawa's persistence to not let Rinko be alone. I like this guy.

Rinko's behaviour is a mix of moments that evoke gasps, laughs and swooning. She really is the anti of the norm for girls in this type of scenario these days. And agreed, Seo is definitely doing a good job of creating the vibe of 'This girl is being a real bitch towards you, yet you're sticking with her despite the nicer girls around you?' The whole conflict of Rinko craving contact with Aikawa, but being too used to being venomous and caustic towards other people to not look weak/hurt, she clearly doesn't know how to react nicely to people anymore. That and home life and school life have beaten down so hard on her she's lost the will to be tolerant/civil. But this is the beauty of it all. Rinko looks like the worst possible option for anything on the surface. Yet the deeper you delve gradually, she is the most complex, the most intriguing. There is a nice person inside, but it will take effort to make her emerge. Nene and Manaka are untainted while Rinko is anything but. She is such an ideal source for the conflict necessary for good reading material. Admittedly, it is good that she doesn't let Aikawa ever get too confident in himself, I'll give her that. But it will be interesting to see when she stops putting up a front so much and decides to let Aikawa in at last. She's taken the first step towards it, but there's going to have to be something pretty critical in the next chapter or two for the dam to break.

And the real issue that is going to have to be confronted is - he can't be nice to both Rinko and Manaka. There's no way Rinko would tolerate it. Plus it doesn't work in general. Being nice on that level to multiple people hurts both of them. Aikawa has to make a choice. Intriguing to think how he'll spill the beans to Manaka and how Rinko will handle it all.

DragoZERO · 2010-09-01, 12:30

I don't think there are any beans to spill just yet. No triangle conflicts yet.

If the series wasn't titled after Rinko than I'd question his logic... girl with a bitchy attitude vs. nice girl in a tennis outfit.

Last Sinner · 2010-09-01, 18:56

I don't think Manaka would make an issue of it. But Rinko probably would. Manaka is sporty, refined and innocent - everything Rinko isn't. And from the personalities that existed in the game, Rinko highly valued arts and really resented atheltic traits.

And from a more logical point of view - consider it from Rinko's perspective. A decent guy is the first person to even care about her in years. Then he suddenly goes after once of the school icons. I doubt anyone in her position would take that well.

But granted, that is a nice tennis outfit.

Impressive that Seo has been able to do both Rinko and Manaka well. If he somehow mixed Nene into the story for a short bit yet kept the story flow together, I'd be impressed.

I guess what has driven Aikawa is he knows what it's like to be alone, so he has an edge that allows him to see parts of Rinko that relatively normal people wouldn't. That and he has an honest heart. The banter between the two is just delicious.

DragoZERO · 2010-10-16, 13:13

Chapter 4 of Rinko Days is finally out...

Spoiler for Chapter 4:

Darknemo2000 · 2010-10-16, 14:28

Rinko days right now is so much better than KNIM that it isn't funny...

DragoZERO · 2010-10-16, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Rinko days right now is so much better than KNIM that it isn't funny...

You can't compare the two. Rinko's overall plot is already set, it's an adaptation.

KrimzonStriker · 2010-10-16, 16:37

I think this is why I'll always like Rinko over the other manga adaptations, the male personality just brings it all into balance. If nothing else I think this part is the most original aspect presented by Seo for the series which helps add its own brand of charm.

Darknemo2000 · 2010-10-16, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

You can't compare the two. Rinko's overall plot is already set, it's an adaptation.

There isnt a plot. Did you play Love Plus? There isnt a plot in there - most of the times it is just dating without that many fixed events - and Rinko days has been very loose adaptation to this.

The purpose of love plus is not the story of the characters but simply dating, thats why we get so very different Love Plus adaptations.

Actually others are closer to game as male lead (you) doesnt really have much of character in the game.

Seo has made it best, but when you compare it to Love plus its kind of difficult to see connection between them thats why for me - Rinko days is more original than adaptation.

PS. - In Love Plus one can choose girl hair length after you start dating them - now how many of you that Seo will make Rinko's hair long, lol. He could cut short Manaka's or Nene's hair though.

KrimzonStriker · 2010-10-16, 22:10

Well as I was saying before, the male protagonist kinda forces that course of development, because in the games you're the main character and you're the one driving the story for the most part, this is why the other manga adaptations are lacking in any real plot continuity in my opinion. You could say they're even closer to their game counterparts then Rinko is in that sense.

Shadow5YA · 2010-10-17, 02:48

Rinko Days shows how great Seo can be when he's restricted to a lower number of chapters. Too bad Suzuka and KNIM aren't like that.

Ravenblitz · 2010-10-17, 07:01

Spoiler for ch4:

umm next chapter is next year?

DragoZERO · 2011-05-29, 22:16

Chapter 7 of Rinko is out...

Spoiler for Chapter 7:

And here's the bonus art from the first volume of Rinko Days:

Spoiler for Images:

Waven · 2011-05-30, 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

Chapter 7 of Rinko is out...

Spoiler for Chapter 7:

And here's the bonus art from the first volume of Rinko Days:

Spoiler for Images:

I'm totally digging the DS shirt, the placement of the buttons... I wanna play that until my thumbs fall off.

...forget about 3D - THIS is the future of gaming

Mentar · 2011-05-30, 06:34

Seo was the perfect choice for Rinko. Writing short-haired princess-like ungrateful selfish bitches (hello Rinko!) getting pampered by well-meaning doormat guys is absolutely Seo's sweetspot.

oDin01 · 2011-05-30, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentar

Seo was the perfect choice for Rinko. Writing short-haired princess-like ungrateful selfish bitches (hello Rinko!) getting pampered by well-meaning doormat guys is absolutely Seo's sweetspot.

I agree while Rinko Days is still the best Love Plus manga, chapter 7 displayed Seo's fascination for male characters who are weak and female characters who step all over them. Glad he friend zoned her at the end of the chapter. Yeah he did it to get the family back together but Rinko should at least show some gratitude for what he did.

Darknemo2000 · 2011-05-30, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentar

Seo was the perfect choice for Rinko. Writing short-haired princess-like ungrateful selfish bitches (hello Rinko!) getting pampered by well-meaning doormat guys is absolutely Seo's sweetspot.

Well at least Rinko is much better looking than Suzuka for a change, so thats one plus for her. But otherwise - yeah, your comment is spot on.

MrTerrorist · 2011-05-30, 10:59

Well that's an improvement. Compare to the Rinko from the prequel manga, she sure has changed a lot.

DragoZERO · 2011-05-30, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waven

I'm totally digging the DS shirt, the placement of the buttons... I wanna play that until my thumbs fall off.

...forget about 3D - THIS is the future of gaming

Hahaha.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentar

Seo was the perfect choice for Rinko. Writing short-haired princess-like ungrateful selfish bitches (hello Rinko!) getting pampered by well-meaning doormat guys is absolutely Seo's sweetspot.

Yeah.. that is true. This chapter really reminded me of Suzuka.

It's a shame they didn't get better authors for the other two girls.

2010-08-28, 09:10	Link #102
DragoZERO Spoilaphobic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Age: 37	Rinko Days is out... Spoiler for Rinko Days Chapter 3: Great chapter if I do say so myself. Poor Manaka though...I wonder if she is going to take the initiative at some point. Her tennis uniform is killer too. __________________ • Anime List \| Manga List \| Manga Thread Template •

2010-09-01, 11:29	Link #103
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	Mmm, caught chapters 2 and 3 of Rinko Days. Spoiler for ch2: Certainly was interesting to see the focus on Manaka. I thought she was naturally popular from the shots I saw - didn't think that people would be too scared to approach her. Chapter sets up a 'you can't be nice to everyone or you end up hurting them all' scenario. Intriguing to see how it pans out. Manaka is a sweet girl but I wouldn't be able to handle someone as simple/innocent as her IRL. And then the utterly sublime Chapter 3... Spoiler for ch3: Well...this was just utterly tense from start to finish! Rinko was beyond volatile - she was virtually catatonic. But what made Rinko so engaging despite her aggression and spite was that Seo captured the crucial moments PERFECLTY. Page 7 when Rinko approached Aikawa at the tree - I remember that frame as an in-game shot I found somewhere. Rinko looks gentle, but you just know she's on the verge of exploding at that point. Page 17 when she's crying - simple yet it really cut to the bone. Rinko's true self is finally out in the open for Aikawa to see and he finally gets it. But the best panel was the first one on Page 25 - Rinko frozen in shock as if she's in a dream, her eyes suddenly going all warm, her hair draping over her right eye, a mouth that's almost ready to gape open. There's a really overwhelming sense of hope and longing in that single panel. It lasts for a few moments before Rinko reverts to her usual self, but that is all that's needed. The real Rinko has been shown courtesy of Aikawa's persistence to not let Rinko be alone. I like this guy. Rinko's behaviour is a mix of moments that evoke gasps, laughs and swooning. She really is the anti of the norm for girls in this type of scenario these days. And agreed, Seo is definitely doing a good job of creating the vibe of 'This girl is being a real bitch towards you, yet you're sticking with her despite the nicer girls around you?' The whole conflict of Rinko craving contact with Aikawa, but being too used to being venomous and caustic towards other people to not look weak/hurt, she clearly doesn't know how to react nicely to people anymore. That and home life and school life have beaten down so hard on her she's lost the will to be tolerant/civil. But this is the beauty of it all. Rinko looks like the worst possible option for anything on the surface. Yet the deeper you delve gradually, she is the most complex, the most intriguing. There is a nice person inside, but it will take effort to make her emerge. Nene and Manaka are untainted while Rinko is anything but. She is such an ideal source for the conflict necessary for good reading material. Admittedly, it is good that she doesn't let Aikawa ever get too confident in himself, I'll give her that. But it will be interesting to see when she stops putting up a front so much and decides to let Aikawa in at last. She's taken the first step towards it, but there's going to have to be something pretty critical in the next chapter or two for the dam to break. And the real issue that is going to have to be confronted is - he can't be nice to both Rinko and Manaka. There's no way Rinko would tolerate it. Plus it doesn't work in general. Being nice on that level to multiple people hurts both of them. Aikawa has to make a choice. Intriguing to think how he'll spill the beans to Manaka and how Rinko will handle it all. __________________

2010-09-01, 12:30	Link #104
DragoZERO Spoilaphobic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Age: 37	I don't think there are any beans to spill just yet. No triangle conflicts yet. If the series wasn't titled after Rinko than I'd question his logic... girl with a bitchy attitude vs. nice girl in a tennis outfit. __________________ • Anime List \| Manga List \| Manga Thread Template •

2010-09-01, 18:56	Link #105
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	I don't think Manaka would make an issue of it. But Rinko probably would. Manaka is sporty, refined and innocent - everything Rinko isn't. And from the personalities that existed in the game, Rinko highly valued arts and really resented atheltic traits. And from a more logical point of view - consider it from Rinko's perspective. A decent guy is the first person to even care about her in years. Then he suddenly goes after once of the school icons. I doubt anyone in her position would take that well. But granted, that is a nice tennis outfit. Impressive that Seo has been able to do both Rinko and Manaka well. If he somehow mixed Nene into the story for a short bit yet kept the story flow together, I'd be impressed. I guess what has driven Aikawa is he knows what it's like to be alone, so he has an edge that allows him to see parts of Rinko that relatively normal people wouldn't. That and he has an honest heart. The banter between the two is just delicious. __________________

2010-10-16, 13:13	Link #106
DragoZERO Spoilaphobic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Age: 37	Chapter 4 of Rinko Days is finally out... Spoiler for Chapter 4: Talk about a tsundere, right? Good chapter though. Plenty of Seo moments like Rinko holding his shirt as he walked away. Seo did a good job on the tiger cubs too. I bet that took him a while since he doesn't usually do animals like that. I hope Manaka joins the fray next chapter and shakes things up. __________________ • Anime List \| Manga List \| Manga Thread Template •

2010-10-16, 14:28	Link #107
Darknemo2000 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lithuania Age: 39	Rinko days right now is so much better than KNIM that it isn't funny...

2010-10-16, 16:37	Link #109
KrimzonStriker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	I think this is why I'll always like Rinko over the other manga adaptations, the male personality just brings it all into balance. If nothing else I think this part is the most original aspect presented by Seo for the series which helps add its own brand of charm. __________________ "That is why we must embrace carnage. In order to not waste the blood that has already been shed, we have no choice but to shed even more."- Lelouch Vi Britannia

2010-10-16, 22:10	Link #111
KrimzonStriker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Well as I was saying before, the male protagonist kinda forces that course of development, because in the games you're the main character and you're the one driving the story for the most part, this is why the other manga adaptations are lacking in any real plot continuity in my opinion. You could say they're even closer to their game counterparts then Rinko is in that sense. __________________ "That is why we must embrace carnage. In order to not waste the blood that has already been shed, we have no choice but to shed even more."- Lelouch Vi Britannia

2010-10-17, 02:48	Link #112
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Rinko Days shows how great Seo can be when he's restricted to a lower number of chapters. Too bad Suzuka and KNIM aren't like that.

2010-10-17, 07:01	Link #113
Ravenblitz \|･ω･`) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Getting there	Spoiler for ch4: cute chapter! that Ocelot and Baby Tiger scene makes Rinko very cute umm next chapter is next year? __________________

2011-05-29, 22:16	Link #114
DragoZERO Spoilaphobic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Age: 37	Chapter 7 of Rinko is out... Spoiler for Chapter 7: GGAARR!! Good stuff. Rinko really is cute. But I want more Manaka! And here's the bonus art from the first volume of Rinko Days: Spoiler for Images: __________________ • Anime List \| Manga List \| Manga Thread Template •

2011-05-30, 06:34	Link #116
Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Seo was the perfect choice for Rinko. Writing short-haired princess-like ungrateful selfish bitches (hello Rinko!) getting pampered by well-meaning doormat guys is absolutely Seo's sweetspot.

2011-05-30, 10:59	Link #119
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Well that's an improvement. Compare to the Rinko from the prequel manga, she sure has changed a lot. __________________