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Pollution kills people. Never mind ice caps, we all breath air. From that perspective alone, it should be more than sufficient argument both to have minimum emission standards and tax of releasing aerial pollution. Everyone already pay a fee to get their garbage taken away. So why aren't those who release garbage into the air needing to pay for doing it? Air is communal. This is the reason why smoking is restricted to certain places but junkfood isn't. If someone wants to eat a deep-fried stick of butter it would not affect my arteries. But if someone wants to smoke next to me than I would be forced to smoke too by proxy. I 100% believe pollution of every kind should be taxed the same way cigarettes are. If only to pay for cleaning up the mess later. In China the ill and the elderly are already dying because of their near non-existent emission laws. The price had to be paid somewhere.
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2011-08-16, 07:43 | Link #242 |
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No, and that is the point. I thought Pawlenty was doing okay, but since he did drop out, I have to assume he had money problems (or there was some scandal on the horizon that he was running from ).
Edit: I actually forgot that Pawlenty has spent the most time in Iowa of all the potential candidates, so if he couldn't win a simple straw poll it is doubtful he could win any of the primaries. Last edited by james0246; 2011-08-16 at 12:19. |
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After reading your last note I was scratching your head and wondering if I was jumping to alot of conclusions. I apologize if I did ^_^; ... but you have a pretty peculiar set of opinions.
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I don't know how I can answer that. It's just unthinkable over here. Germany's basic law _entitles_ the people to the necessities of living. It couldn't even be revoked on a 2/3rd majority, so at worst the government could try to move the goalposts by redefining the amount of cash every unemployed gets in addition to housing, education etc. - but doing so gets immediately challenged in Germany's supreme court (and essentially always rejected). Consider this as likely as a law getting passed to outlaw the private possession of firearms in America. Without this legal foundation, it is unthinkable to have the Government "withholding" anything. Quote:
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And if that means that I'll only see half of my 6-digit yearly income post-taxes and post-healthcare, then so f*cking what. This is where my German catholic (very different to the American breed) social background kicks in, in _my_ opinion it's my duty. I still earn more than enough to make my living. Freedom starts where constraints and necessities end. In my opinion, knowing for a fact that I can never hit total rock bottom widens my freedoms instead of limiting them. See the point I'm trying to make? |
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2011-08-16, 09:45 | Link #244 |
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I wasnt going to even chime in on my opinion about this but I think I will go ahead and say it.
First of all, Obama did disappoint me in some way but Healthcare and atleast trying to be the adult in the room with a bunch of children is a plus, I guess. I think that the big problem was the 538(?) people in HOR and in Senate, they couldnt just try to get along with each other. It became even worst with Rep/TP was getting involved (Before I get neg rep for this, Its everybody fault not just them). Obama would get reelected, probably but I think that climate in the HOR/Senate needs to change or all of them needs their walking papers and bring new people in to do the job right.
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2011-08-16, 09:52 | Link #245 | |
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Bush won it before? I thought no one who won the Ames Straw Poll ever ended up even being on the presidential ticket (at least, not for the two parties).
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2011-08-16, 12:06 | Link #248 |
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Mitt Romney won in 2007 (only to lose the state to Huckabee, who lost the nomination to McCain who lost the election to Obama), but Bush Jr. won all portions of Iowa in 1999/2000 (and the presidency), and Dole won the poll and the state in 95/96 (but lost the election). I'd have to look up the results, but I am pretty sure that the majority of the polls winners never won the bid or the election (I think Bush Sr. won the first straw poll back in 1979, but Reagan won the election with extreme ease.)
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2011-08-16, 12:28 | Link #250 |
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You know, that is really incredibly blatant. Imagine if Ron Paul actually got the republican nomination? The media would implode: "Where was Ron Paul, he's just suddenly exploded onto the scene!" He was there all along , you were all just purposefully ignoring him...
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2011-08-16, 12:42 | Link #251 |
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If he won the nomination I'd finally have something to get excited about in politics. I can see why some people are baffled because he's so different from what every other candidate wants, but I'm convinced at this point we've taken the wrong route in this country becoming a world power and Britain's spiritual successor in world affairs. History has never favored this path, and Ron knows it. So even if he's making drastic changes, I'm willing to throw in my lot with someone I at least know will attempt to dismantle this hulking behemoth of a dysfunctional system we have.
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2011-08-16, 13:31 | Link #252 | |
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So.. naturally our US corporate media is going to ignore him. Its tragically superficial - they're focusing on Michelle for whatever sex appeal she has for old men and they're focusing on the heavy corporates who also belong to rather "interesting" religious beliefs (Mormonism and Dominionism). Fear Dominionism... really.
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2011-08-16, 13:40 | Link #253 |
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Gee... Ron Paul does well... and big media ignores him. The assholes. I swear.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...--the-top-tier
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2011-08-16, 13:52 | Link #255 |
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s broadside against Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on Monday night was a remarkable departure from the usual approach of major presidential candidates toward the Fed, which has been to make any criticism delicately and politely.
Perry was neither delicate nor polite. “If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I don’t know what y’all would do to him in Iowa, but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas,” Perry said. “Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost ... treasonous in my opinion.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...y.html?hpid=z1 is the GOP also going to run on a blame bush campaign?
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You could tell me you're such a good, careful driver you'll never cause an accident - to which I'll answer "they all say that. Buy a goddamn insurance policy or walk." Quote:
Here, typically, if two drivers get into an accident, each insurance company will reimburse its driver and sort out who was responsible among themselves. There might be some argument with the premiums, but not to the point where we have to give up on telling who the hell caused the freaking accident. |
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