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Originally Posted by wingdarkness
LMMFAO  You took a comparison of how silly it is to think a street militia kid would somehow become a professional Gundam Ace and turned it into me dissing America...My my my  ...Additionally what does this have to do with anything when my only point is that a kid in a street army doesn't qualify for you to seriously think he should be some kind of combat professional in any definitive sense? sheeeesh...
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I thought your comment is basically a little too stupid to comment on but since you insist, lets see, the kid (setsuna) obvisouly was smart enough to stay alive alot longer then most of the others. In battle one key component is called survial, if you live you gain experience ask any military personnel, there is a huge difference between those who have seen actual combat and those who have simply been trained for it, Setsuna as a kid has already seen it. However, judging by his actions, opening the cockpit in a warzone one must wonder where his survival instincts went, he was perfectly willing to dodge bullets but also willing to open his cockpit and show himself to the enemy who could have simply shot him, very smart.
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As others have already pointed out, you have no idea what search parameters were put into Veda before it found the Meisters, so yet again your lust for logic falls short...
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I? Lust for logic? that's so halirious that its not even funny. What other serach parameters is there for a pilot other than get the job done, whatever that job may be? I can see how setsuna opening his cockpit will do great strides towards their objective.
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Turn A never started off insanley powerful, nor was it presented as such in the start...But that's beside the point, which is, you can't judge the success of every Gundam series pilots simply by using logic or some subjective view of "pro-status"...Gundam pilots historically tend to have powers that superceed logical comparisons...Oh and BTW, in Turn A my friend, Loran was an "ace"...
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I don't judge the sucess of every Gundam pilot based soley on logic. That said, I don't remmeber Yazan having any super powers yet he was better than kamille. Kira, being a coordinator is naturally better then most in piloting MS, Heero who has trained alot is ofcourse a good pilot even without the Zero system, the people in 8th ms team had no super powers, and Char was the red comet before he awakened as a new type, Loran was certainly a normal kid, I don't see where your historically, superceed logical comparison crap comes from.
As for Turn A, as far as I know, its the only Gundam the regerates itself, flip a Wadom whose about twice its size like it was noting, take multiply hits, some times without blocking via shield or hand and the only effect was not a damaged Gundam but some what shacken Loran, has a powerout put of 27000KW compared to the RX-78's 1380 kW or F91's 4250 kW or even to the last UC Gundam Victory 2's 7510 kW, it can make itself invisable, use moonlight butterfly, (Loran didn't use it at the start but those systems were there from start to finish) so yeah it not over powered.
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Well then you seem to be going quite overboard in your comparisons for someone who wants to hide behind the "so far" ticker tape...In your debate with Dean The Young you seemed to be judging a less than complete Setsuna and his skills quite harshly verses a completely skilled and documented character in Heero...
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On the contrary, I seem to remember Heero was a pretty good pilot from Ep 1 on wards, maybe you are confusing him with someone else.
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Well I was being a tad bit rhetorical (not surprised you missed that  ), but my central point was that all the logic in the world, whether it be for Mobile Suits or the selection of pilots gets severly skewed because Gundam (as a franchise) mostly relies on a component of imagination that leaves pure logic in the dust"
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And I answered you with sacrasm as well, I too am suprised you missed it
of course, its a damn anime, however, its an anime created by humans of this era incase you haven't noticed, so there needs to be a degree of realism however big or small, the damn calender in 00 is set in AD or maybe you haven't noticed that, the countries like China or America are not imagined countries, the AEU is simply a more unified EU, its clear that the director is aming for some realism, even Evagelion uses some real Jung and Freud concepts.
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And I'm saying the "best" in a Gundam series doesn't necessarily follow some strict or even defined training regiment to be the "best"... Sometimes they just are...And in 00 it has NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED what "special abilities or powers" the Meisters may have that lead Veda to believe they are the best devoid of your logical training (And as I've said we've seen many hinted breadcrumbs that they do posess something more)...
Honestly though the entirety of my argument can be summed up in 3 words that might make you stay away from the deep-end, and those words are:
WAIT AND SEE 
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oh, you mean the pilots going insane is some kind of speical power? Some people have speical aptitdue for piloting, that is true, however, Amuro, Kamille, Uso, Kira, even Loran have shown significant improvements in the first 10 eps, what does Setsuna show in improving his piloting skills?
Fly since ↔...
