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View Poll Results: Do you like Orihime? | |||
I liked her before... | 50 | 5.66% | |
I love her! | 208 | 23.53% | |
I like her. | 190 | 21.49% | |
Don't really like her, don't really hate her. | 190 | 21.49% | |
I dislike her.. | 87 | 9.84% | |
I HATE HER. | 143 | 16.18% | |
Other. | 16 | 1.81% | |
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2008-12-17, 10:08 | Link #2441 | |||||
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As for Ulq only being able to track Orihime by her spiritual pressure, we saw Aizen watching Orihime's every move through a screen in Las Noches (chp 227). We should assume that Ulq doesn't have access to that same screen? It's obvious they can track her every move if they want to. BTW, hollows can also sense strong spiritual pressure from HM and can be attracted to those locations. Shinji explained that to Ichigo when he appeared to him on the rooftops. Quote:
And once again, the reason Orihime went isn't because she believed there was no one who could protect her, but the fact that she wanted to give everyone the best chance to prepare themselves for battle rather than have immediate battle forced upon them. Quote:
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2008-12-17, 11:29 | Link #2442 | |||||||
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You guys are contradicting yourself. First you say inoue can be tracked regardless of what she does and where she goes but then you say that they couldn't find Ichigo because he wasn't using his pressure? How is that consistent? Especially considering that Ichigo has vastly more power then inoue. He should be easier to track should he not?
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2008-12-17, 13:37 | Link #2443 | ||||||
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Friendly advice =/= ally in combat. Before Ichigo vs. GJ (which Ori didn't know about) The vizards kept themselves hidden and hadn't ever showed up for a battle before despite the good guys being desperately in need of help in some situations. Just because they were nice to her doesn't mean she should expect them to be willing to take on Aizen's army just because she asks nicely Quote:
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2008-12-17, 14:08 | Link #2444 | |
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we have already seen two cases of at least one Hollow being able to show up where he wanted...Orihime's brother. First time in Ichigo's room, the second time through a teddy bear in Orihime's living room, |
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2008-12-17, 14:31 | Link #2445 | |||||||
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If Aizen could bring up view points at anytime of anything why didn't Ulq use that to find Ichigo before he left the first time around? What about when he got back and used his eye? Why didn't Aizen just watch while it was happening? The screen has only shown Aizen watching already recorded video, nothing else. It would be a huge tactical mistake to not watch the known enemy if you could. WE have no reason to believe he can. SS had to bring in a massive t.v to communicate across demisions but Aizen can just magically view everything at anytime? Come now. Quote:
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Here is the last flaw in the arugments presented. You are making arguments based on what WE know as viewers or readers. Not what Inoue necessarily knew. She made her choice on what she knew and she made a bad, not thought out one. You said that she left because she was trying to help her friends? Her leaving doesn't help her friends. There are many more reasons beyond that.
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2008-12-17, 15:57 | Link #2447 | |||||
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In addition, she wasn't thinking about herself[Note bold references in quote]. Most likely her viewpoint was if she tries anything funny, they would kill Ichigo...and the rest lol. I believe Ichigo was the nucleus of her decision. The weight of mistakenly calling Ulqui's bluff and having her friends murdered vs venturing out in uncertainty to save her own skin...obviously the former is a worst case scenario but after what she'd been shown it's no wonder she was afraid to act outside his orders. |
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2008-12-17, 16:11 | Link #2448 |
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Well i wont deny that fact she is clearly clueless klutz who cant think for herself, but she has looks she is cute with hugh breasts I give her points for that.
So basically in many peoples minds she is only good for spreading her legs lol. But I do see her good points, the onlys reason she left without a fight was so she could destroy the Hogyoku, which im pretty sure Aizen saw through. So basically I do support Orihime more than I support Rukia, also Rukia doesnt have a crush on Ichigo and hasent even shown a single sign of crush on Ichigo, she only cares about him like she cares about everyone. I even saw more chances with Renji and Rukia then i ever saw with Ichigo and Rukia. So basically Orihime is the current only person who has feelings for Ichigo and im pretty sure Ichigo willl soon see it or get a confession from Orihime hopefully a kissing scene. |
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2008-12-17, 16:35 | Link #2450 | |||||
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Exactly which is why inoue should not assume something when she or we has no way of knowing. Especially if assuming the opposite forces into making a stupid decision like going to aizen.
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The rest of your argument is based on the assumption that she was saving their lives by cooperating. There was no reason to believe that Aizen would keep her his word and not hurt her friends the moment she did what he asked. The guy cares little for honor or life. She knows this. The fact that he wanted her power should be the biggest indication that she should have at least tried to stay away. Your justification are just that, justifications in hindsight. There is no reason for inoue to believe that she or her friend would have been better off if she followed Aizen's orders. None whatsoever. Quote:
Well, I think i have posted enough for one day. I will leave my arguments at that. Great discussion though peeps. Very good indeed.
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2008-12-17, 19:00 | Link #2452 |
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Just out of curiosity, what other options Orihime could have entertained in that particular situation with the dashing and looming Ulqui?
The reason I'm curious is because both times they, Rukia and Orihime, felt they needed to protect Ichigo from superior enemies after witnessing a first-hand beat-down of Ichigo. Both of those situation where these two ladies made certain choices which lead to playing the damsel-in-distress role spontaneously spurred from this little phrase called, "Time, place, and circumstances." Can I say it again? Yes? OK.. Time, place, and circumstances.
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2008-12-18, 15:34 | Link #2457 |
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Oh , one last thing. All of the arguments about Inoue's choosing the riskiest choice instead of trying to contact possible allies have some merit in them, but even if the latter choice was the most logical, try to factor in Inoue's logic based on circumstantial evidence. Does she function well under pressure? No. Is she the type to make quick and concise decisions with deliberation? No. Is she adept at strategy? No. I don't believe I have to post reference material to back up my claims.
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But I do see her good points, the onlys reason she left without a fight was so she could destroy the Hogyoku, which im pretty sure Aizen saw through. Quote:
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